The SEO who initially IM'd me IMs me again and asks me to vote for the stories if I haven't already, and now he asks me to comment on the stories, see if any of my friends will vote for the content, and instructs me to vote for other stories in between the votes for his stories so my activity doesn't seem suspicious. Okay, so apparently now I'm being treated like an employee and am given specific instructions on how to vote. The last time I checked, I wasn't getting paid by these SEOs to vote and promote their stories. My vote counts as one, not one + comments + 12 other votes from my friends. If you ask me to look at your story, expect one vote, if that, nothing more.
That SEO's employee then IMs me and asks me to vote on the exact same story the other SEO asked me to vote on (and it's the same story I kept getting shouts for). At this point I tell both him and his employer that I've already received repeated requests to vote for this story, and that it's getting downright spammy and inconsiderate. They apologize and tell me that they'll coordinate with their team to avoid asking the same person for repeated votes. I'm left alone, until...
Another SEO IMs me and asks me to look at a video on YouTube. He initially asks me if the video loads properly. I say yes and close the video tab because it looks lame and I don't want to watch it. After a couple minutes, the SEO asks me to favorite the video and give it five stars. My exact response is, "No, it's lame." He fires back with "Tuesdays and Thursdays are social days." [Note from Jeff: "You know what? Tuesdays and Thursdays are also work days!"]
Okay, now I'm really getting angry. You know what? I don't care if Tuesdays and Thursdays are unofficially dubbed "social days" in the SEO/internet marketing industry--that doesn't mean you should send me 32 IMs asking me to digg/reddit/propeller/sphinn/youtube rate/del.icio.us bookmark the same stinkin' story, or that you should guilt me into voting because today's the day that people ask for votes, so I should play nice and vote up anything that gets sent my way. This is getting ridiculous.
The SEO then says "don't make me beg." I respond by saying that I only vote for something if I think it's interesting, and that I'm not voting for the video because I think it's lame. He then says "SMM etiquette, you know? You do this for people who do SMM so they do it back for you." My response is less than professional:
Me: WTF! SMM etiquette, my ass! I get spammed with this [expletive] [expletive] all day. That's not etiquette. Begging for a vote isn't etiquette. Ask nicely ONCE, like [name of SEO redacted] does.He takes the hint and stops bugging me.
Tamar wrote a similar post about not asking her to Sphinn your stories, and I couldn't agree more (note: I am also a Sphinn moderator, so think about that before you spam me for Sphinns). At this point, it looks like I'm slowly being driven to a) dread Tuesdays and Thursdays, b) block spammy SEOs from IMing me (which I don't necessarily want to do because some of these people are my friends), or c) stop logging into my chat programs because I don't want to get spammed.
Not all of my colleagues act this way. There are plenty who IM me with a link and say nothing more--they understand that I'll look at it and decide whether or not I want to award it with a vote, and they're fine with that. Some SEOs send me links to stories that I vote for every time, and do you know why? It's not because they're my BFFs, it's because the stuff they send me is interesting. That's the whole point of link bait and of viral marketing. People share things and vote for things that they find interesting, whether it's funny, informative, educational, inspiring, enraging, etc. If I like it, I'll vote it up. If I don't, I won't.
I don't want to sound like a jerk, but if you're requesting votes from people you need to understand that these people are doing you a favor by awarding your content with a vote. If you keep bugging them and badgering them and incessantly hounding them to vote up your content, they're not going to want to award you with a vote any more.
I'd like to close with some real SMM etiquette:
- Keep in mind that not everyone will put up with your spammy requests for votes because not everyone adheres to "Social Day" or thinks of it as the day to pepper your colleagues with vote requests.
- If you do send someone a link, send it ONCE and then leave that person alone. You've done your job of bringing his/her attention to your story, now let him decide if it's worth a vote.
- If someone does not vote for your content, don't hold it against him or try to guilt him into voting ("Come on, we're friends!"). If even your friend doesn't think the content is worth his time, what chance does your piece have of being interesting to the mainstream?
* deletes draft emails to Rebecca *
Yeah, those people suck!
Is Social Tuesday/Thursday a real thing? Not being a full-time SEO, I guess I miss out on that. Of course, working for myself, every day is Casual Friday, except for Friday, which is Get-Hammered-at-Noon-Saturday-Eve.
This might be the best comment ever.
Damn! I thought casual Friday was last Thursday so I wore my PJs all day.
Hi Rebecca,
How has your day been? I bet its been pretty hectic managing all those campaigns and all those social profiles.
How is Seattle weather treating you? Has the winter rains started yet or is it still pretty calm? Vegas is great as usual. Perfect weather this time of year. Sunny and 70s.
What are you going to be for Halloween? I tried dressing up as Jason Calacanis last year, but I got diggmobbed and had my candy stolen. I was thinking of dressing up as Matt Cutts this year, but after the past few weeks decided to just be a ninja.
Oh, speaking of digg, if you happen to find this comment interesting, would you mind taking a mere half second to give it a thumbs up? I would appreciate it and owe you a favor.
Thanks again!
roadies
PS - Will you also leave a comment reply? I don't want this to look too spammy. Thanks!
Damn, 20 people stole my idea of asking you for a thumbs up after reading this post.
Some people read an article about pet peeves and want to comfort the author. Other people are SEOs. ;-)
You think this lot are bad, just take a look at the people over at Valleywag. I swear some of those folks eat their own young!
SMM tuesdays and thursdays????! Are you kidding me?
If you're an seo, social media should be a part of your job. I don't have link-building mondays. I just do my job, part of which involves creating/spreading and generally being involved with cool content. We shouldn't need a specific time to make it 'ok' for you to spam others with crappy links.
Like you Rebecca - I don't mind at all if someone sends me a link and asks me to check it out. Don't be offended if I tell you it sucks balls though.
I mean c'mon guys - let's show some professionalism in our industry. Just because part of our jobs is dealing with pre-pubescent teenagers on digg doesn't mean we should act like them.
Sorry for ranting - but I completely agree with you Rebecca. Spreading GOOD content is part and parcel of the job and I don't mind people sending me stuff but let's keep it rational people.
/rant
Basically, unless you've got a whole team of writers working for you, there are few people who can more than one or two pieces of good content each day.
What's the hurry? You want to fly before you can walk?
That is a good way to get deindexed from Google, for trying to manipulate Google PR algorithm.
So, built it up and the team will come when your space is ready...
"Sucks balls..." - that a technical term? ;)
I completely understand. It was like that in my college dorm, i was the geeky computer nerd, people who i barely knew, and some i knew well, would come down to "chat" and some how it would end up with them asking me to come fix their computer. :-P
But like you i had a few friends that didn't do that. they might IM me asking where a setting was and that was it.
Its frustrating when "friends" or the like just bomdard you for stuff. Especially when you working. Heck if I ever make on to your friends list I promised only to spam you with requests for a date. :-D
Haha, oh great, that's much better. ;P
For an office prank we once set one of our guys AIM profiles to all the computer help settings advertising more free support than you can shake a stick at... Good times. He appreciated it slightly less though than the girl who had banana peels taped under her desk.
So now I know who to ask for more digg help.... lol
Hehe I know that feeling!
That's what they invented the "no i won't fix your computer!" shirts over at thinkgeek for.
LOL...Awesome. I need one of those shirts...
Hey, any chance you could create a "No, I won't build you a business website in exchange for a used tv." shirt?
I needed that one last week.
Wish I had one of those back then lol!
Did the rules change? I didn't know it is ok to post AFFILIATE LINKS here like Joost de Valk just did.
I thought it to be quite appropriate in this thread to throw an aff link ;)
I think you almost coined an new noun there. Let's change one letter and call those people 'bomtards'?
sort of like pornados - the mad flood of porn you see when you mistakenly open just one and try and close it
zegron said:
"I promised to spam you only with requests for a date".
Funny you should say that Zegron. When I first read Rebecca's post, which clearly touched a nerve, I immediately thought of the old trick I used to use on telemarketers, where I turned the table on them and turned it into a game where I gave myself points for throwing them off track, making them start their script over, getting them angry with me for asking stupid questions, etc.
In your case, (being an admitted computer geek and all), asking your friends for an intro to at least three prospective female friends in exchange for computer help would probably have solved the problem.
Back to telemarketing, the very best "turning the tables" call is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un_PjRXV5l8
It's pretty funny.
WOW - i cant imagine being so pushy - I dont even like to Sphinn my OWN articles because I want that to happen based on merit, not me pimping my own stuff (admittedly i dont really do that right but i have a phobia of being too self-promoting in some cases)
I was impressed with your restrained response, i'd have added in at least 4 more [expletive deleted's]
Great post
~C
Rebecca,
Here’s a “turning the tables” solution for you. From now on, when you get a request for a digg, spinn, etc., you inform the requesting party that you are happy to do so as long as they are willing to comply with your “UBER” (unsolicited begging email request), reciprocation policy. You can go on to say that UBER is a highly sophisticated algorithm (the exact formula for which only you are privy to), that delivers a ratio of how many reciprocal articles they must spinn or digg in exchange for the article they are asking you to spinn or digg. You can tell them that generally speaking, the algorithm does a calculation of comparative celebrity status (theirs versus yours), coupled with the overall content quality of their article versus your own. You can finish by telling them that in this case, the UBER ratio is 37:1 and here are the 37 url’s for the articles you would like them to spinn or digg and that once that is completed, you will comply with the reciprocation at your earliest convenience. That should do it. :)
I think that it is great you open your IM to many people, and you are probably a huge help to a lot of people. I also understand that some people abuse this priviledge, but I urge you to not take the easiet route by lessening your IM circle.
A good way to get rid of this is to make a strict no-voting policy. You are a professional SEO. I find it silly people want your time to vote on their story, when getting advice from you would be way more valuable.
If anyone sends you stuff to vote on after you change your policy, politely remind them that you don't do that anymore. If they spam, then bury/mark the story as spam as a penalty. It probably doesn't deserve to be on the front page if it requires the writer spam all his friends.
I agree.... hang out a sign... ask me for a digg and I'll bury it. lol
Now we're talking! :)
Whoever did the driveby thumbdown is lame.
I say we all give every else's comments a thumb up to spread a little love and show that there are more positive than negative people in this community.
Anyone else in? Here you go - you all just got a thumb up from me. :)
LMAO - I hope that person feels justified. They sure showed all of us!
WebGeek, thanks for the love. You get a thumbs up and a bombpop!
When I went to bed, our posts were in a thumb tie, and then you wiped the floor with me. I yield to the linkbait master and official champion of (Social) Tuesday :)
Dr. Pete you supplication deserves a thumb, so here goes one from me..)
I get about 10 or 20 voting requests a day via email. I don't have time to vote for everything I would like to. So... Here is the secret to getting your requests voted on...
"Subject Line Bait" I don't have enough time to investigate everything so if your if the subject line is lame, ("Please Vote!" or "Please Digg!") I won't even open it.
You spend a lot of time crafting the "Title Bait". Follow through and make the subject line of your email request worth opening.
This is why I don't respond to Digg Shout outs. Who knows what's on the other end of the shout out? I would need to open the email and click-through to find out. It doesn't sound like much but it ads up.
There is a lot to be learned from the good email spammers. A subject line like "This will make you laugh" or "Incredible Picture!" or "This is Amazing" or "Check out my new list of whatever" will get me to open your spam almost every time.
Oh, and remember: next Friday... is Hawaiian SEO day. So, you know, if you want to, go ahead and wear a Hawaiian shirt and jeans.
I wear a email marketing hat half of the time and I have to say that you are absolutely correct Andy. Getting them to open is half the battle.
What's the name of the company where Tuesday & Thursday is social day? I want to work there :.)
People should know that even in our highly evolved technological age we live in, "Please" and "Thank You" work just as well as they did pre PC.
I wouldn't. Everyday is social day!
Boss - whats that there you are doing?
Me, Ahem I mean, SEO/M lazyass - well, i'm carefully building my social presence so that our latest linkbaiting / social media / user centric (or any other 'buzz' phrase, title, term...) project picks up steam and rocks the blogshere / socail scene / UGC / SBS (any other new acronym invented on the spot)
Boss - Ah, good work, carry on...
TRANSLATION / ALT
Boss - whats that there you are doing?
Me, Ahem I mean, SEO/M lazyass -I'm on facebook / stumbleupon / digg / reddit / sphinn / SEOMoz getting a personal profile so big that in 2 months I'm off and you'll have paid me a salary whilst developing the skills! Cheers, and No I won't be atteding the Xmas party!
Thanks sooo much for this....
I was starting to wonder why I didn't give out my ICQ info and now I know. Though I think you were way under-line... clearly not enough [expletives].
Pulling that "friends" guilt trip kind of stuff is just sleazy. Real friends generally don't need to remind you that you're friends.
Guess you'll need to get a new T-shirt.... "My left-click isn't for sale."
Though I must say, I'm a bit envious with the social Tuesdays and Thursdays... personally I'm just excited on the few occasions I make out for Taco Tuesday!
"My left-click isn't for sale."
Is that a euphamism for something?
Just the notion that much of the "action" to promote often comes down to something as simple as a click of the mouse... but doing or not doing is much more than that.
Asking someone to take a look at something and "helping" out is one thing, but insisting someone promote something because we're friends (which again, most good friends won't use that against you) or "it's how the system works" or anything like that is wrong.
And if it is for sale, I bet it would cost a lot more than just that... at least some tacos, but probably a lot more ;)
So I love how "random" that most of us have now recieved a thumdown. Looks like "someone" has taken offense to how in agreement our little community seems to be on this topic.
Geez Rebecca, please leave us out of your IM wars in the future, so as our Moz Points will not be affected by a rogue thumdown warrior!!
J/K put those foolios on blast if they start trippin'!!! (I felt the need to get all gangsta so that maybe I'll be left alone next time....lol)
I agree as well, I have blocked about 99.9% of people on my msn becuase they "Hey dude, what do you think of this" , "Hey BRO, can you stumble this"
Its like gawd man, don't you have some other work to do,
So , I just block them and go back to work :)
I am actually starting to even leave my messenger off most of the time now, its just way more productive.
Email works the best for me,
Go Becca!
You know, if a guy had said that he would have been given hell for it...
;)
Made me laugh though...
I know that you guys don't want to get involved in this anymore, but have you seen this ridiculous attempt at MozBait?
https://sphinn.com/story/11796
Was it him by any chance?!
I can't believe someone thinks that type of harrassment is OK.
It isn't.
Someone voted that comment down?
Amazing.
I guess someone thinks it is okay...
Ciaran, that is absurd. I fear this industry is turning a little bit darker as it supposedly gets more mature...
Rebecca is becoming infamous, that's it, that was the last straw.
Time to nuke her link of my site..:)
I just don't log in to Trillian unless I get an email from someone asking me to, and even then I have to say, "sorry, with a client" to everyone who pops up in there and log off the moment the planned conversation is completed.
I think it completely blows that the social media revolution has turned so many people into beggars.
Okay, the secret about Social Tuesday & Thursday is out.
Yes, Social Days are two days each week when sole practitioners and small SEO firms band together to help each other in blatant violation of federal anti-competition regulations.
Thanks Rebecca.
Because of you we are all going to jail.
Rebecca, IMHO, you have the patience of a saint. I already leave my IM on 'inviisible' and I've never had this kind of a problem! It would drive me nuts. I've also never, and I mean never, asked anyone for a vote on any of the social networking sites. It's not ethical and defeats the entire point of the process for goodness sake.
I think that is ultimately going to be the downfall of those sites. In theory, they are great community driven information sharing sites.
But when they are abused so that people can reach their selfish goals, then it becomes spam and renders the entire thing worthless. Can it be long before Big G and other SE's decide that these links are as poisonous as those from link farms? Do they really have the intended value if someone has to ask you to vote for it?
SPAM ruins everything.
SEO Columbus you are so right! I agree with this 100 percent and said as much in reply to that rediculous Sphinn.
I agree completely. Absolutely retarded!!
I have no issue with doing favors, or even working out scratch my back and I'll scratch yours relationships, but have some respect people.
Probably pays for all his links!! lol
Social Media Days!!! Classic
You go girl!
There comes a time when one has to put their foot down and say "No More!" You can't make anyone like anything, and spamming will only make one leery of trusting anything that is sent.
I'm sure this has been said by the other 99 commenters... ;-)
Tuesdays & Thursdays are social days? Wow, who knew?
And, I can IM you to have my stuff "digg/reddit/propeller/sphinn/youtube rate/del.icio.us bookmark"???
I need your IM!! ;-)
You need to hang out with better friends.
I thought this post was going to be about people spamming you to vote for them in the Shoemoney Party Like a Rock Star contest.
Oh yeah, will you vote for me in that too? My entry will be in shortly.
(Thanks vingold for the idea!)
i was thinking i was alone in not having social tuesdays and thursdays. i was about to stomp off to my boss's office and demand social tuesdays and thursdays since that's the industry norm. but it sounds like i wasn't left alone in the dark on this one after all.
"Get-Hammered-at-Noon-Saturday-Eve" is something i am definitely going to look into.
This whole "digg me and I shall blog you" kinda monkey business is pathetic.
The whole idea of SMO is not to squeeze links from nowhere, but rather to get the REAL community to enojy, share, use and then leverage things which are really worth it.
We, as consultants, should not agree to SMO the local cleaning compan, unless they truly have value!
By doing these fake SMO (yes, this is fake!) we only hurt ourselves.Yes - We can show a few client: "look! 20 people found the lame article I wrote about you interesting and gave it 5 stars!" but the truth is this will not bring a single client to the shop.
We, as consultants and industry leaders should promote real work and real results. If I'd compare it to pure SEO - I think it's pretty similar to "pay me 8.99$/month and I will submit your site to 1,456,333,678 websites every day!".
You want Tuesdays and Thursdays? Fine! Let's have Tuesdays for ethics and Thursdays for real results!
*cheers*
OC
With all these people active on "Social Media" 24/7, when do they find the time to do some real work that might be of some benefit to humanity?
Dude my top 10 ways to pick your nose absolutely benefits humanity ;-)
OMG like "10 ways" is sooo web 1.0. Now it's top 4, 6, 7, 11 8 1/2 or 14.3 ways to pick your nose. :-)
Or perhaps the top 10 ways to have someone else pick your nose, and thereby boost your nose-picking popularity at the same time.
"Dear Nosemaster,
I found your nose whilst searching through GoogleNose on the topic of "boogers". I liked your nose contents, and have started to pick your nose. As you may be aware, nose-picking is a major factor for good nose ranking over at GoogleNose. Please take a look at my nose and if you like the contents therein please consider a reciprocal nose pick.
Alternatively, I can offer a 3 way nose picking scheme or I can even sell nose picks."
Can always count on Rebecca for a morning post that makes me feel ever more cynical in the SEO industry and ever more hopeful that people are willing to say cut the bullshit.
Great post Rebecca! You just summarize what is the REAL purpose of Social Media and what SEOs shouldn’t do.
Being authoritative in any industry comes with a certain set of negatives.
Like celebrities who are followed by paparazzi and stalkers.
Do you move away from LA or put up with it, so to speak? Tough stuff
If "moving away from LA" entails not turning on my IM, then that's fine with me :)
Perhaps that's more like moving away from West Hollywood and bunking down in my compound in Malibu.
Interesting analogy, especially when you consider that a lot of those celebrities know that they'd be forgotten and ignored by the public if the paparazzi stopped plaguing them.
I keep a pretty low profile (by choice! I could be famous if I wanted to! Really!) so it's not that big a deal that I steer clear of constant contact with people who are likely to ask favors of me. But what about the mozzers? They have more of an image to protect. That image isn't based on responding to digg requests, but at least in some people's estimation, that's part of it.
I personally despise SEOs that work this way. These "Social" sites were intended for something much different. I can not relate to SEOs that try to cheat the system or abuse these sites. They are worth nothing more than the guy that spams my forums with XRumer about viagra and porn. I know that Rand said that he engaged in some of this with networks for his clients, and I see nothing wrong with a few friends helping you have a fighting chance on digg/youtube/stumble etc. , but keep it clean and reasonable. If you like it, digg it!
my philosophy is, if it's not fun, then it's not SMM. every day now i get spammed with, so-and-so has sent you a shout out on Digg; I've stopped logging into my Digg account for the past little while because, well, I have work to do, and these spammies are turning me off Digg!
I gave up awhile ago on Tue/Thurs thing. After that it still took a month before people got the hint. Nice job Rebecca in taking a stand!!
A) It sounds dishonest to me -- what good are "votes" if we reach the point at which they are essentially all in response to a request for a meaningless vote?
B) I would like to work someplace where 2/5 of the work week was officially for socializing. Oh, and presumably no deadlines. How did they swing that?
C) I can tell you've never had a baby.
Sounds like this was something that really needed to be said!
I guess the idea behind having friends vote for things in social media (especially at Reddit, Digg and StumbleUpon) is that the userbases are so huge and the submission rates are so high that it takes 20 or 30 votes before a piece of content is even noticed.
Ethically, I don't have a problem with voting for friends' content (as long as it's good) because if a crappy piece of content gets 30 friendly votes, is seen by the rest of the site's users and is recognised as crap, no one else will vote for it. SU users will click the thumbs-down button, Diggers will bury it, Redditors will hit downmod.
I think this post was less about the issue of friendly voting and more about being hassled.
Good point!
Of course, that raises the question of how you define "friend." Is it a person you know, like, and have met in person, someone you know and don't dislike, someone who has yet to piss you off by begging for too many votes for lousy content?
Ah... can I vote for "all three?!"
I don't usually get spammed by strangers for vote, so this is rarely a problem for me. It just all comes down to the content. If a person I don't know shows me great content, it gets a vote. If someone I really like shows me crap, I don't vote for it. Like what happened yesterday (I got those IMs too).
Did someone just pull a drive by thumbing (down)?
Yeah, I need some clarification on the Tuesday/Thursday thing too. Did the Internet Pope lay down this doctrine?
I'm having a pumkin carving Wednesday. Nothing to do with SEO, but my kid's will be sorely disappointed unless I grab a knife and channel Tim Burton.
Are you inviting us, though? So we can have Pumpkin Carving Wednesday to balance Social Tuesday and Thursday?
I would give you 10 thumbs up for this one if I had that many hands! Thank you for posting this!
I understand - i feel like if i get one more shout on digg for some random stupid duplicate story I am going to cancel the account. I have over 1,000 messages at netscape - and I will never read them - because frankly i dont' care. If you have to message me to read your story - then chances are - it sucks.
My mom keeps sending me Fwd emails with stupid-ass cheezy PPS`s. But hey, she went through 18 hours of labour to be able to do that....
Then again, I`d rather help out a few buddies game all these social sites anyway, just the subversive anti-establishment thing in me.
A great solution would be to tell these "buddies of yours" ;) to send you 1 list at the end of the day (tuesdays and Thursdays I guess)with all the things they want you to Digg/Reddit, etc, in 1 email. Then it will take like 3 minutes to go through them all. But only if there`s something in it for you in return. After all, leveraging "social" friends could be a win/win situation if its balanced properly.
But I feel ya amiga!
Nice post Rebecca :)
I got spammed a lot couple of years ago. I felt like I was in School again, reading the "Send this to all your friends in the next 10 mins or..." posts.
Since then I proceed like this:
"Could you check this and tell me what you think?" - "Sure, why not"
"Hey, vote/rate this" - "Yeah.., maybe...., when I have the time, if I feel like it"
It worked for me, but then again, am not as authoratative as you :)
Friends don't ask friends to spam (I think that's an upcoming after school special)
Seems to be a trend of influential bloggers posting about their frustration with unwanted email communications. Chris Anderson posted recently about the PR pitches he gets and he actually posted every email address that had spammed him in September, with some big PR firms on the list. Anderson has a strict first strike policy. That post got 300 comments. But Rebecca's being very kind in not revealing who they are, just a firm warning ;-)
So Rebecca, this post obviously struck a chord with all of us...Just for fun I checked, and as of today, it's the #2 most popular on SEOmoz's "Popular Blog Entries" list...of all time, right behind Rand's proposal to Mystery Guest. :) Maybe you should submit it it to Digg and get all of us to vote for it. LOL. :)
...behind Rand's "Tonight I Proposed to Mystery Guest" post. Damnit, Rand! Now I have to get married in order to take the top spot. Sheesh...
Use your creativity...you can take #1. :)
did you say you want to get married??????
Being a recongizable user on social media sites is like being "that guy with a truck." When your friends need to move, you're the first they call. It's annoying, but if they're really your friends, they make it worth your time. And since you have a busy life, your friends don't harass you endlessly... hopefully, and if they do you tell them to stop acting like a little b*tch.
:)
The guy with the truck at least usually gets pizza and beer out of the deal. I bet Rebecca would be a lot less irritated if every Digg request came with pizza and beer (or whatever offerings appease her).
Holy crap, if that were the case I'd be hugely fat.
Ask for vodka.
Well, there's always cash or trinkets :) Let's just say that these requests would probably be more palatable if the people actually provided anything in return. When did it become acceptable to just say "Hey you, gimme something!" and not even return the favor?
Dr. Pete, we have a DEAL! I'll digg/reddit/sphinn/stumble any link you want in exchange for pizza and/or beer.
That offer is open to anyone! :D
Ummm sooo whats your AIM screen name???
Wow, I am sorry Rebecca, that would so piss me off.
Good story.
BTW, why do all these people have your IM address? Shouldn't you try to keep that private?
This is the sexiest post I have ever seen on SEOmoz. The tone, the anger, the frustration, the swearing . . . damn sexy!!
Could you hook me up with your grandma? She sounds hot and if she has half the spunk that you do . . . hello!!!
;-)
Payne
Well, the one I had in mind passed away a number of years ago, but she was definitely spunky. The woman carried a rock in a sock in her purse for "protection"...
Rebecca nice post, why not IM the link to all the SEO's that bug you and ask them to digg/reddit/propeller/sphinn/youtube rate/del.icio.us
You are getting many thmbs up for this, including mine.
I see there is one thumb down, did you give it yourself to make it look implartial, or the SEO, who you told to go screw a light bulb..:)
Mine carried a gun. This is Kentucky we're talking about.
But she was still pretty spunky.
lmao " rock in a sock"
Thats actually a good idea , for back then
Now they probbaly would commit you if you did something like that :)
Excellent post, Rebecca. I agree that the whole situation was excessively inconsiderate to you, and I think you handled it great. They deserved a few choice words. :) I think it was pretty nice of you to even look at the link the first time they sent it over. Great points on SMM etiquette. Hopefully it will catch on. I like EGOL's idea about hanging up a sign that says "Ask me for a digg and I'll bury it." Thanks for sharing this story as a reminder to all of us in search marketing.
*hugs and hands a wet kipper*
The kipper is for hitting people with.
I'm glad im not a popular SEO/SEM, this kind of stuff would drive me nuts! I already find it hard to read a dozen or so blogs I read on a 2-3 times a week basis but understand the importance of keeping up to date with the industry so you gotta do what you gotta do.
I''m sure even though you hate being begged and bothered its nice going to conferences where people know who you are and consider you a PRO in the industry... So going back to your post, it comes with the territory.
As Peter Parker's grandma said, "With great power comes great responsibility." ;P
Actually, I think it was his uncle. :P
Ah, true. His uncle looks like my grandma. ;)
you think she might digg a couple of things for me? IM pls?
Oh man, I nearly died with this comment.
These guys who are new into all these stuff dont change and keep seding IM's / emails to everyone in their contact list for a couple votes.
Have you heard of Social Zombies? It's made exactly to avoid this! Their slogan is "ask them [your friends] only once [for a vote]"
Classic!
I get the feeling no one will be bugging Becca for diggs any time soon.
Wow, Ms. Kelley : it seems you are very angry (hulk?)... After this post I have doubts about to have you in my IM contact list...! :-) Anyway, I agree with you. Those guys are really annoying.
Rebecca you suck at ping pong :)
But I rock at double table ping pong!
I am not sure if I believe that. Only intoxicated "special" people are good at such a difficult sport. It takes many years of practice and "unfocused concentration " to play at such a masters level. BTW, did you get a copy of the photos from such a night?
-D
No, I didn't. Boo, hiss.
Is your email youname[at]seomoz.org? I will send you a copy. Your in the group picture and another *edited* shot :). Can't wait for PubCon, it is going to be a blast.
Yep, sure is--first name -at- seomoz.org. Thanks!
Check your Inbox. I don't want to hear about some of the framing of the pictures. I was in full after party mode so sacrifices had to be made.
"Everything I am not made me everything I am"
-Kanye West
beer pong?
Amen Rebecca.
I completely understand and agree. Even the best of my friends tend to do this at times.
It's just bad manners to be hassling someone like that (ha ha I think I sound like my Grandma).
Rebecca I think you've been exceedingly restrained in that you've not named and shamed this person. You're a better person than me :)
Hehe...
I love it when SEOs try to play in social media. Social days.. that made my entire week right there.
I might have to incorporate an SEO day.. Where i comment spam all your freaking blogs.
Great post there asian girl.
Is it weird enough to make it on a certain weird Asia news site? :P
Look please don't ask me to pimp your content. You have shown me the post and i like it. Whether i post it on a said large blog should be my choice.
And the IMs, Emails, and Voice mails are not helping your cause.
Smart ass...
Your blog posts will always be weird Asian news to me
Okay, that had the office cracking up. Kudos.
Rebecca, looks like the SEO mafia is after you, better hide in a witness protection program..:)
I'll save you the mystery--it was some user who thumbed down all the comments and also spammed this post twice and another post with a link to some French digg-looking site. He's banned now.
Not before he got a polite (no, seriously) email from me about how not to use thumbs.
now that's an email I would love to read
HAHA! Oh, Frank... Let me re-phrase. I sent him a polite email about not being a bloody idiot.
got to love the moz dedication working on a sunday.... significant others watching football?
He's watching the Military Channel. And if by "working", you mean "clearing out my email of SEOmoz comment alerts," then yeah :D
Boy do I know that feeling... Feature request: only email me once per thread, until I've reloaded the page, like Digital Point does.
Mine's playing Bioshock on the Xbox 360. I mopped the floor and then started nerding out on my computer.
if you two are so diligent when they are doing other things on the weekend - if I was Rand I would buy them season tickets to the seahawks
I'd guess that would be Gillian :) after meeting her in Stockholm last week, I guess she would be capable of such an act :)
yeah I would agree with that too
Don't the thumbs (up and down) disappear for an account that is banned?
Oh well. Back to football...
[edit: reworded comment]
Someone isn't happy with this thread. Have you noticed that nearly every comment has been given a single thumb down? I get the feeling that someone just scrolled down the page, clicking that thumb on every post they hit.
Oops. I'm not the first to notice that. And the delete button is MIA!
Go Seahawks!
It's really no different than email marketing a few years back. Digg has become a basic tool for Blog marketing. Write a story, post a story, shout your "friends" and hope you catch the Digg wave. In the mean time digg as many as your friends stories as possible.
It used to be something like drop about 15 Million emails about a dating site and hope for conversions. In the end all we are talking about is getting traffic to your site.
Don't get me wrong - I love digg, but it is not as altruistic as you might think.