Blogger or webmaster outreach is the art of finding the right sites to target to get links on, tracking down who owns or edits them, and building a relationship with them in order to get links.
It's also for my money the only real "pure" linkbuilding exercise that we as search marketing professionals should engage in.
This stuff does take time, but it is possible to scale (I go into some detail on the data gathering side of things in this post), and if executed correctly you will not only be building great links, but building relationships with people who may well become your brand advocates in future – giving you so much more long term value than a simple link could ever bring.
Site Selection:
The first ingredient is keyword selection based on the client or site strategy.
For instance, online retail clients in the UK clothing vertical have the requirement to rank for lots of fashion related terms, examples may be things like "adidas originals hoodies", or "converse all stars".
This is generally decided at an SEO strategy stage which involves the overall campaign goals, and preferably using real world data like PPC costs and conversions.
This type of information is invaluable as it provides the SEO team with a clear picture of commercial value of rankings for certain keywords.
Once we have these keyword lists, we set about selecting sites to target to acquire links. The best place to find sites that Google considers to be relevant for these terms, it turns out, is Google itself!
A simple search for the term alone yields the results that Google find the most relevant, but this often returns sites that you will never be able to secure links on. For example a search for "converse all stars" in the UK yields: Converse.com, Wikipedia, amazon.co.uk, asos.com, totallyshoes.co.uk and other competitors where you will never be able to place a link.
"Advanced search operators" are how we discover the sites that you WILL get a link on though!
Examples are:
Inurl: sites: (with advanced options 100 results selected)
Search for the keyword term being targeted, and use the inurl: operator to filter out types of site that you can conceivably get links on, for instance:
KEYWORD inurl:blog
KEYWORD inurl:forum
KEYWORD inurl:site
KEYWORD inurl:fans
This type of search should yield a couple of dozen potential linking partners. Once you have these keep a record of them in an excel sheet (the data to keep now is the keyword, the landing page Google returns, and the site domain name – we will use this data later).
Allintext: keyword sites
This filter searches for sites that MUST contain each of the words listed within the content of the page. Note, you can also use the plus symbol to return equivalent results, particularly handy when you want to force inclusion of some words but not others.
Again, using the keyword term, plus other operators such as "reviews" "blog" etc. can yield lots of good results to contact.
Site: or –site: operators
Or
These searches restrict the query to either a certain domain, type of domain, or excluding a certain domain.
The purpose in this is to discover sites that have certain TLDs such as .edu, .gov, .info, .me etc. that are either going to be high value links, or unlikely to be the brand website where you can target links. Again, save any potential site in your excel sheet created earlier to contact in future.
Intitle: sites
These search types yield results where the term or terms (to force exact terms use quotation marks) appear in the TITLE: element of the document, be creative with your keyword operators to uncover lots more nice sites.
Mixing and Matching Operators:
You can combine these operators in any way you choose to really drill down on sites and find some hidden gems. Some example searches might be:
+"converse all stars" inurl:blog intitle:review
+"converse all stars" +buy +inurl:forum
Once you start combining multiple operators you normally end up with hundreds of new potential sites.
Cataloguing Results:
All of the above searches yield results that you can contact at a later date to get link placements. It's a good idea to try and keep this all in one place so that you can action the list in an organised way, and also segment it into site types and prioritise them so that you can contact the most valuable ones first.
Excel is the easiest way to do it, and based on above you will have the following information already:
Keyword Targeted, Landing Page, Site URL.
With an excel plugin (seotools.xll) (available here: https://nielsbosma.se/projects/seotools/ ) we can start building up statistics on these sites in order to categorise them and prioritise them for contact.
Information that can help you with this include the Google PageRank (an arbitrary 0-10 measurement of the importance of a website as defined by Google, Google indexed pages (how many pages on a website Google actually knows about and terms worthy of indexing), Facebook Likes (spammy domains are unlikely to have any Facebook likes so it's easy to weed out "rubbish sites" with this).
The results would then look something like this:
The process by which you import this data into excel is by using the following formula’s:
=GooglePageRank(CELL)
=GoogleIndexedPages(CELL)
=FaceBookLikes(CELL)
Once you've got a hundred or more potential targets, it becomes quite easy to work out which ones are more powerful, but overall you're looking for as high a possible numbers on each of the above metrics.
Time to Get in Touch:
Once we’ve got to the stage where we are ready to start contacting webmasters, the first thing we need are their contact details, followed by a good enough reason for them to place a link (time to get creative!).
Finding Contact Details:
Obviously there is no one size fits all here, if the website is a blog or a forum, a lot of the time there will be simple contact forms that you can fill in, or the webmaster may have published his email somewhere on the site for you to get in touch. If that's the case, it's easy enough to get the message out to them – however most of the time it's not that easy.
WHOIS data: any domain name registered has "whois" data associated with it, which generally gives you the name, address and email of the person or entity that owns the domain. This is a publicly searchable database which you can access through a variety of sources.
My particular preference is domaintools.com and you can find site owner details by going to a url like:
https://whois.domaintools.com/seoforums.org
this gives you all of the information you need to contact the webmaster:
Occasionally you will find however that the domain is registered to a default address of the registrar, something like "domains by proxy" (a large registrar's private registration service).
If that's the case and the link is perceived to be particularly high value, there are still some options (but we're getting dangerously close to online stalking here!). If you can find the webmaster's name through their blog, site, or forum then you could try searching Facebook or Twitter for them and contact them through those means – or tracking them down (if they are in the UK) on services like 192.com.
If you are going to go to this level however, that link really should be "high" value! Some of the best links I've ever managed to build have been down to this persistence when you know something is worth following. Remember, those links that are hard to get, are the ones that your competitors are least likely to have!
The Pitch:
Once we've got contact details the next, and most important step is coming up with a good enough reason for them to link back to you.
Again, there is no one size fits all routine here, and it depends very much on the type of site you are contacting.
The most normal types of interaction generally follow these frameworks:
Content Provision
Most bloggers would be happy publishing an article on their site if they are provided it, it's well written, and it fits their target market. This can be a powerful way of getting links back to where you want at very little cost other than the time taken to write the article. For most large linkbuilding clients we have an article writing budget so these would be taken from an existing bank we will have ready and waiting for such a purpose.
If you aren't in the position of luxury of having these resources at your disposal, you can build the content once you are in contact with the blogger and it seems likely that they might accept your offer, but to do it effectively at scale, it always helps to have it done in advance.
Infographics could also be used here, if you have access to those for your site or client.
Straight forward Recommendations
"Hi, I read the article on your site xyz.com where you were talking about converse all stars, I was wondering if you could link it to my page so that you're visitors will know where to buy them?"
Linking for Product
In certain circumstances, its easiest and quickest to offer the webmaster some free product, preferably relating to the post/link that you require as it will have the highest chance of being accepted. This could be anything in value from $10 up to $1,000+ depending on numerous factors, including the statistics of the page that we gathered above, the difficulty of the keyword term itself, and the commercial gains from a high ranking position.
Offering Competitions
In many cases clients would be prepared to offer a free pair of "converse all stars" to a community as part of a contest where people have to enter a reason why they deserve the product. This is a great mechanism both to attract the initial link and generate good PR and buzz.
Widget Placement (advanced, and only relevant occasionally)
Another method is to place a widget on the site (with the webmasters permission of course) This could be something as simple as a survey script, along the lines of "If Converse released a special edition Leather boot, would you buy it?". These types of linkbuilding exercise are normally quite easy, as long as it's either humorous or adds genuine value.
Also, if you have the development resource, and more importantly data that would be valuable to bloggers in that niche it makes sense to use both together to build a data-driven widget that provides real value to the target sites audience, this of course is harder to execute – but done right can yield some pretty spectacular results.
It's also possible to get these kinds of placements to go viral if it's handled in the right way and seeded onto a handful of authority sites.
The Endgame:
Like in so many areas of SEO, the biggest challenge is scale. We all want great results for our sites or for our customers so it's important to sort out your processes around blogger outreach, as it can quickly snowball out of control and yield very few results.
I'm not a fan at all of automated emailing to your target list, each and every contact you make must, I repeat must, be backed up by having looked first at the target site, picking out some relevant content on the page, commenting on it and personalising the email as much as possible.
This is time consuming, but it increases the likelihood of getting a reply hugely, and should not be overlooked.
The other parts of the research however you can scale quickly into the thousands of sites depending on your vertical using things like the SEOtools.xll file that I linked to earlier in the post.
If you follow these steps – you can start building tonnes of (white hat) semantically related, powerful links!
Decent post,
We have been doing a wide range of blogger out reach for a while and I feel that the bigger and more cool the brand is the better the chance you have if connecting up with bloggers and getting some traction with them.
I mean I have tried every thing in your list + many more unique ways to reach out to bloggers and it is a real hit or miss process some times you can build a great relation ship and some times you get an angry reply or no reply hehe =)
I would also advise to really focus on mid tier bloggers as these are the ones who you will get traction from, larger bloggers expect more and more and usually wont lift a finger unless they are guaranteed something really good.
Well I don’t know why but I never directly go hit the big players especially when it comes to bloggers… if I gain decent amount of links from several other bloggers on basis of that I go and contact big bloggers but you are right chances are there that even after that you may get no reply at all! :(
Great post - we've been doing a similar thing by outsourcing much of the leg-work, and the tidying things up ourselves. You mentioned using this for infographic marketing which is bang on... depending on the niche we've had a 50%+ response rate and picked up links from all kinds of high ranked, relevant sites.
Great article.
Small tip: blogs often have forms on their contact pages, so look instead for an "advertise" page where they often give an email address.
I am agreed to your tip, because anyone can get ready to be contacted for revenues generated for advertisments , hence it is good way to get the email add. from "advertise" section.
So great post about using an advanced operators in Google. Enjoyed it! +
Great post Martin!!
I wrote an article on here recently about link prospecting, but I didn't cover the full spectrum (contacting targets, managing data etc) just focused on identifying targets - https://www.seomoz.org/blog/9-actionable-tips-for-link-prospecting
Great post anyway, will be giving the spreadsheet a go this morning - I've created something in GDocs that pulls in websites from SERP's and then uses the SEOmoz API to outline the quality of each site before I look at them, but the limited scripts are a nightmare!
Paul
Thanks and good point, however it does depend on what kind of clients you have.
We are lucky enough to work with a lot of big brands, and that makes dealing with the top level bloggers (in theory) much easier.
Hi Martin,
Thanks for posting a very extensive blog post. The excel tool brings great value especially being able to load in more than 50 URLs at a time and pull off all the metrics. Yet another SEO pain point removed. As I venture more and more in to the social side of link building I am reminded that you are not getting a link off of a website, you are getting a link off a person who owns a site.
Therefore, you are technically getting 2 links, one is HTML based and the other is real world human connection.
On a seperate note. Will you be attending the Distilled conference at the end of October? The last time I seen you speak at Link Love there was some top stuff to be learned.
Cheers,
Ross
I TOTALLY agree Ross, the second of those two links is far and away the most important one as well, because it could lead to "who knows what" in the future.
This really is about 'linkbuilding' in the personal sense.
Re. Distilled's Searchlove - I've not been announced as a speaker. Thats not to say I might be sometime though. Having said that, for my money its the best UK conference anyway, so I recommend going regardless!
I've found that reaching out to industry bloggers and asking for a paid blog review is great for promotion, especially if you are trying to build up buzz for a whitepaper or webinar or something like that. You have to remember that you are probably not the only one trying to get "in" with that particular blogger, so you need to earn their attention!
Very cool indeed Martin
Always have a lot of time for your insights! I predominantly use Linux / Open Office, starting to feel the pain not having Excel as there are a few amazing plug ins I need :-(
Hope to bump into you again soon.
:-)
Yep, there is just too much good stuff in excel these days! Look forward to seeing you at the next conference mate, are you coming to Searchlove?
A trick I use is looking at all the incoming links to a website just by going to Google and typing URL:link Very Easy and shows all sites linked to the URL
MOGmartin - @seoforumsorg
Great Post - this just became a must read for my team- Thanks!
Thanks for the nice comment Dave!
thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi Martin,
Thanks for another great post.
Always a jewel or two amongst your link building stuff that sets off a little brain explosion for me! :)
I love that you always seem to be able to point out a new twist on the stuff that we all think we know like the back of our hand.
Just thought I would share an approach to guest blogging that is a little different to the norm, but can work really well for sites that offer services built around expertise and opinion like business advice, SEO :) etc.
The idea is to find blogs in your space that tend to take a different approach from your own on the same subject matter. Basically, authors that you would like to gently disagree with from time to time. Contact them and invite them to create a guest blogging arrangement where you actually discuss and debate topical subjects in your industry. You can start out the relationship by offering an alternative view in their comments over a period of time and then progress to making a more personal contact ... if you have already built up a friendly rivalry in this way then there is a good chance that they will be enjoying the interaction and see the value of turning it into a regular discussion on their site.
The added benefit of getting these links is that the more interesting and challenging posts will create a point of interest with readers and will be more likely to inspire engagement and social sharing.
thanks for the great comment Sha, really appreciated!
Great post. I would like to add that, most businesses have something of value to "trade" for a review, and that review will provide a link. For us, we give bloggers a free month of remote support services, in exchange for a review of our services. If you are doing seo for a winery, give people your wine to "sample" and "review" ... you can get a lot of links from offering services and products.
Some excellent filters for mining link building opportunities. Many thanks for info and will be looking at getting some good links.
Fantastic Post, as David just said a must read for anyone involved in SEO (including my team)
I'm having trouble with the Whois and OnPage sections, anyone knows how to configure it? (it says something about URi not valid) hints?
Sometimes it sounds so easy. Thanks. Gonna do some searching.
This Excel plugin is a lifesaver - who knew! Thanks for the great information, I am looking forward to putting it to good use.
you're welcome, Ive been using it for ages and its great for soooo many things!
Thanks for posting this article. It is definenitely useful. Using this keywords would be simplier and would give easy access to the data that the person is looking for.
This was helpful and especially on the information to reach the bloggers.
Thanks for the post, I know its an old one but still very relevant!
Amazing tips, thanks a lot for this post. Even I have been blogging for last many years, got these info right now from your post. So thanks
Very Good Information I will try this format . Blogger traffic related content is we need more. Your content is very very useful I really like tour page. Thank you
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Great post - and awesome plugin for excel.
Word of warning - don't get over excited like i did and try and extract every bit of data you can in one go - esepcially for more than a few urls.
Ended up making two cups of tea whilst excel went and churned through everything!
Bravo. Absoule inspirational
Excellent article! I hate doing link building but this is a really solid executive summary. It's off to excel for me!
Simply the best article and informative. SEO is well established field and people are earning from this emerging field.There are certain steps for SEO and some software as well for boosting the website.
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MOGmartin,
Great post thanks for sharing.
thanks for sharing i have been a follower of your blog for months already and you helped me a lot.
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Why must everything be ninja related? Or guru? Or rockstar? These words don't really apply.
Bah humbug.
All that grumpiness aside, this was an excellent article. Thank you for sharing your very useful insights!
its an inside joke ;)
I've been using Google Docs mostly for my spreadsheet-related SEO work. Is there a variant of that Excel tools addon for Google Docs? Perhaps just the macros translated into the Javascript variant that google uses?
nope, the .xll file is written in .net I beleive, so it wouldnt be cross compatible at all.
Nice explanation. Not easy but important.
Great article and seotools.xll looks pretty good which I didn't know about, so thanks.
Regarding your suggestion of giving the blog/site owner some free merchandise; we run a loan company and it seems to be a harder and more competitive market to gain links from site oweners than if we were talking about selling physical items (especially when the site owner can link to price comparison sites and the lilke)... we can hardly dish out 'free loans'... any suggestions?
Free stuff doesnt suit you, run with one of the other options
Infographics - you must have a ton of data - which is the brokest State in the US? Which are the brokest towns in the US? Do women default more than men?
Loan widgets targeted at specific niches - I bet there are many sites that would take a widget that was a running a feed of the US budget deficit (maybe plot against 4 other nations)
Stephen - Thanks, Yep, fair points (I just like the idea of giving free stuff, it's easier!)
We're a UK company though, so i'd have to use UK stats and to me UK sites just seem tighter about taking on content. I suppose I could run a feed about how Cameron and Osborne are slowing taking apart the UK economy... Maybe even a graphical representation of it... hmmmm, thinking...
Could you not do something that compares US to UK (or similar) so that you could attract links from both countries?
Nice idea - thanks, if I can get hold of some good US data, then I don't see why not
I'm not an seo professional, but I have been linking from blogs relevant to my medical equipment company.
I usually just leave comments (like this one) on the blogs that allow me to add my company's URL in the commenter profile.
Here is an example https://33charts.com/2011/08/improve-care-now-doctor.html (mine is the only comment on the post).
I know these links are working as they show up in Yahoo site finder or Hubspots's website grader.
My question is - do they have the same SEO value or quality as a link that is in the actual blog post?
I have been guessing that if the blog owner accepts my comment (link and all) it should be the same as any other link on the page. Is this true?
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Great post, Martin.
I'd like to share my experience with a recent 'tactic' I had with engaging bloggers, which is very much anti-ninja: meeting them in person. Cardiff (where I live) has a strong blogging community, which I have recently become acquainted and friendly with after attending one of their events. My intention was to meet like-minded bloggers and make some new friends, but as an added bonus I was able to establish lots of new guest blogging opportunities - many of them use guest bloggers for when they're busy, on holiday, etc., and many of my clients like to write guest blog posts, so it's a perfect fit - some of them are about food, business, Cardiff, etc., so there's plenty of relevant topics (in one way or another as well).
I would advise SEOs to do the same in their communities as well, so long as they're not seedy about it (i.e. so long as their only goal isn't to use and abuse people for guest blogging purposes). I was lucky with the one in Cardiff in that they were very welcoming and not at all cliquey - might be different elsewhere but there's no harm in people trying to establish these types of relationships in person instead of via email or strictly online.
First of all i would like to thank you for the tips regarding advanced searches ,they are really very helpful for searching any potential webmaster/website owner to contact . and your last sentence , which says.. it is good to make the email personalized as much as possible, which is quite effective in my case. By the way, i dont like to write evry single mail, but if we need quality links (those links which are difficult to obtain)it is necessary to utilize the time in that,because ultimatley the benefits of link back from the website/blog owners will be surely confirmed. thanks, awesome post
This article helps me a lot as a blogger. I totally agree on all the points you make. I wanted to point out that sometimes its really tough to find bloggers via Twitter due to keyword spam.Suppose i have to find the blogger srelated to real estate then i mainly get spams related to their hashtags or keyword.
Thanks Martin for this wonderful post.
-Hiren
How are you getting bloggers to place your widget?
Seems like an easy way to do paid links, pay webmasters to carry your widget or infographic i.e. I will pay you to help with my "customer survey" which is in this handy widget format
What a great post! Great tools, ideas! Thanx for that!
Big inspiration for me, thanks!
I think this post is the most detailed post on manual outreaching… very awesome!
As far as the site operators are concern ‘SEO himanshu’ an active Mozzer discussed many other site operators on his blog (including the few that you mentioned) check them here.
Over all a great post sir!
Fantastic article Martin, Well as been into the industry I am aware of the promotion tactics you had shared but I must say I had never readied such article explaining the strategy to execute the promotion operations. Really your article is 100% worth to read, very well written and very descriptive. I will definitely recommend this to all the newbie's of the Internet Marketing.
Great post Martin! I'm just getting into linkbuilding and this looks like some pretty comprehensive advice and tips! thanks!
This is perfect! Just recently started doing some outreach following another couple of brilliant posts (see below) and this is all great extra help for link research and collation.
Seriously recommend reading these two awesome posts also:
https://outspokenmedia.com/seo/content-based-outreach-for-link-building/
https://www.jamescarson.co.uk/socialsearch/2011/09/06/building-an-influence-network/
Is there a way to use SEO Tools in Open Office?
not that I know of sorry
Cool stuff Martin.
Here's one additional tip.
Once you get a list of URLs, a great way to figure out which ones are blogs is to look at the CMS tag inside the HTML. You can automate this with a cool PHP script that Justin Brigss wrote about here https://www.distilled.net/blog/seo/building-your-own-scraper-for-link-analysis/
You'll end up with a list of URLs and the CMS they're using, and that will help you quickly identify which are probably blogs and which are not.
Of course, there are quite a lot of corporate sites that use wordpress, so you'll still need to go visit each one to validate if they are blogs or not.
Keep up the great work!
Michel
What about leaving comments on blogs that allow you to use a URL in your profile - which links back to your site. If the blog admin accepts and publishes your comment (with the URL/keyword) is this link as "SEO valuable" as the links refered to in this blog post?
what you're talking about is comment spam. dont recommend it sorry.
As a blogger, if the first email I receive from somebody is to ask for a link (whether to a competition, a "useful article," an infographic, or in an offered guest post), that email gets marked as spam. No exceptions.
Most such guest posts are garbage, and there's simply no time to wade through them all.
It takes more time, but my suggestion would be to offer something of value before asking for a favor unless you're OK alienating several bloggers for each one who does end up linking to you.
totally agreed - my preference is to engage in conversation first before offering anything. Prove that there is a "real person" on the other side!
Back in August iPullRank wrote a great post about how you can do this: https://www.seomoz.org/blog/throw-away-your-form-letters-or-5-principles-to-better-outreach-link-building
He gives a bunch of examples on how to engage with the person you're trying to get a link from, before actually asking for anything in return.
Key learning: study what they care about (by reading what they post) and find that one thing that you can connect to (whether because it's what you do for a living, or just something you personally like).
But remember: don't fake it. Be honest.
I love your title! And I'm definitely going to try out the excel plug in. Thanks!
To find a relevant blog is very tough at some time and its a tricky to find it.These kind of tricks are always helpful for expert as well as for newbie.
Ninja Assasin quite appreciated :)
Using Google advanced search not only helps in link building, but also in some niche or keyword research. I personally have used it at times to discover low competition but high value keywords [though they are a rare find these days] but once you get a hang of it, it becomes quite easier.
Though it might not be completely relevant here, I still prefer adding a tip to this Ninja Style : The idea of using varying Anchor Texts and getting a more natural inbound linking structure. Cyrus also discussed it in this WBF. While we are all not sure if that is true for a large scale data, the results show a promising diffrence which might just help us edge ahead of the competition. I pointed this out here because you are discussing the above techniques for new SEO campaigns (of course, it does work with old one's too) and using this natural link structure might just help them feed their client's dire need to rank faster ;)
Regards,
This post is very good. i already apply those rules which are in your list but that way is not musch useful in finding the right audience. specially when your audience is specific. e.g my client sale hotel security product. when i write "locks for hotel + forum" or hotel locking system + blog i found two type blogs ,forum
In this way your lot of time wasted in finding which forums or blogs have some activity. Place your link are there create a useful for your target audience and your client business. I think its like NP Problem how find the target audience on web, for this purpose need more hard work, finding accurate way.
nobody said it was easy, but doing it the right way yields the best results.
yes it is not easy. But it usefull when you search using mixing and matcting operator
Like
+" Hotel Suplier" inurl:blog intitle:review+"
Hotel Suplier products" +buy +inurl:forum
Call me lazy, but I much prefer to track down great links by doing Open Site Explorer analysis of competitor/high ranking sites and weeding out the best. The inurl stuff takes a lot longer and links aren't always as good quality, although it's good for those who are keen to vary their backlinks away from competitors.
so what you're saying is that you automatically limit yourself to only sites that already link to a competitor in the search landscape?
I would say that *probably* a better strategy is to get links from sites that dont already link to others in your search vertical ;)
Thanks, Martin. Really useful info.
More ++ for seotools.xll
you're very welcome! Glad you enjoyed it!
Yep great post, and seotools.xll seems like a very useful tool.
Anyone got any luck running in on Office2010 (win7/x64)?
Did it just now. Fully working.
Win7/x64 Office 2010 En/x64
I get this error:
'C:\Useris\Frederik\Desktop\SeoTools.xll' is not a valid add-in.
I can see others have the same problem: https://nielsbosma.se/projects/seotools/
Having issues as well. Excell 2010 says that the file is a different format than what the file extension suggests. Then it asks me if I still want to open it. If I say Yes I get the code loaded up in Excell like if I was opening the file with Notepad. I'm on Win7/x64 Office 2010 HU/x64
"More ++ for seotools.xll"
And me - off to get the excel goodness flowing, cheers Martin
Can't get the SEOTool working on Excel 2010
Is SEOMoz sponsored by OMD these days? :)
I think it is OMD that knowing the value of SEOmoz has decided to share its knowledge for the advantage of all (itself included)... because it is sharing knowledge that you can adquire relevancy now...
so... what about thinking in writing a post you too, Dude? :)
nope, we aren't sponsoring SEOmoz, but we love their work, love TAGFEE, and are one of the biggest agencies worldwide so it kinda makes sense that we post some stuff from time to time right!
thanks very good article for me.