Hello hello, today I'm going to talk a little about Google Local. The things I'm talking about aren't necessarily new or ground-breaking, but I think it's important to expose them to the Moz readership as Local isn't something that's talked about all that often on here and there are quite a few intricacies which you should be aware of when dealing with local optimisation, particularly for clients who have many locations and who rely on using a bulk upload to Google Local.
Before I go any further, there's some really, really smart people who talk about Google Local optimisation and I've been chatting with them recently - I strongly recommend that you check out the further reading at the bottom of this post as they go into a lot more detail about a lot of this stuff than I do (and they probably know more about it than I do too!).
Why Do You Care About Google Local?
There are two reasons to care about Google Local. The first is unbranded traffic. The second is branded traffic.
1) Unbranded Traffic
Over the past 6 months or so Google has become incredibly aggressive with displaying local results in the main listings. These almost always come in the form of a 10-result one-box (kind of like a 10-box, I suppose). It used to be the case that you had to refine your query with a location before you saw any Google Local results, such as Hotels in Leeds:
Notice how this 10-box is the very first result that users see - even appearing 3rd or 4th in the 10-box can generate more clicks than a #1 ranking in the organic results just below. That's pretty staggering. That means that for these super competitive travel queries, if you want traffic you need to be optimising for the 10-box before you think about optimising for the regular organic listings.
But wait, trouble is on the horizon because Google is becoming even more aggressive with its 10-boxing and it's starting to display 10-boxes on regular search results without a geographical modifier if Google knows where you're searching from. Take, for example, a search for 'IT support' which generates the following result for me:
Notice that handy 10-box slipping into the results without me specifying my geographical location? Scary, huh. So in short, generic competitive queries are generating 10-boxes. If you want to grab that head traffic then you'd best go about some Google Local optimisation pretty quick.
2) Branded Traffic
Ok sure, generic queries are generating 10-boxes so that gives me some potential to aim for, but surely my navigational branded search queries are safe, right? Right?! Unfortunately not; take a look at this search for "napoleons casino leeds" (one of my old poker haunts), which generates a local listing above the regular organic result:
Well that's ok, right? Surely that local result is controlled by me? You would think so, wouldn't you, but actually in many cases that's not true. Keep reading below for examples of when this goes wrong.
So that covers WHY you should care about Google Local - now let's cover some of the issues.
Issues with Google Local
Here are a few of the common issues I have come across dealing with Google Local
Spam, and Lots of It
I recently did an analysis of the top 10 hotel searches in the US as determined by the Google Search Suggest (I know, pretty unscientific but I wanted a random snap shot):
I then analysed the 10 results in the 10-box for each search result - a total of 100 local results - and found that 15 of them were spammed in one of the following ways:
Spam in the main index:
Take a look at this 10-box from 'hotels in boston'. Can anyone spot the odd one out?
Yeah, of course the last one, which is a locksmith rather than a hotel. Easy. The real question is, how many of you spotted the other odd one out? Look at D carefully - you see that the listing appears correctly - it's for the Club Quarters Hotel, which is indeed located in Boston, but the URL actually sends you to www.elephantcastle.com (which, incidentally, is a chain of bars which has a location in Boston; it's not the website for the tube station in London).
The reason for this occurrence is that the Elephant & Castle bar and the Club Quarters Hotel have the same address - and Google is trying to merge the listings and doing a pretty poor job of it.
Spam in the details of the Google Local Index:
Take a look at result C - you see that the hotel listing appears correct but the URL is www.cheap-hotels.usa.net. This certainly isn't a case of merging listings since the www.cheap-hotels-usa.net URL isn't a genuine site. So why does this spam happen? Well, it gets even worse - click through to the details (by clicking on the reviews link) and you see this:
It's a pretty strange listing - not only is the official website not listed, neither is the cheap-hotels-usa site. Instead, it's now linking to a spam blog on blogspot. Why is this? Well, the reason is that there's an edit button on the listing. And that leads to a free text edit of the Google Local information, including the URL. I'm really not sure why Google allows this free edit - in the past they've come out and said that the majority of edits are genuine and that may be true for niche small stores, but for the main competitive terms it's just overrun with spam. There's a few weeks delay on the data that gets edited here feeding back into the main Google Local index which gets displayed in the 10-box, which is why the cheap-hotels-usa URL is still being used in the 10-box.
Here's the shocking part - if you own a hotel chain and submit a bulk upload to Google Local, this bulk upload isn't trusted enough to prevent this free text edit function being displayed for your hotel.
Language
So Google Local, which you'd think would be designed to handle local queries, actually sucks really badly at local language searches. The problem is that, as far as I can see, there's only one Google Local index worldwide compared to all the local indexes you get for google.co.uk, google.fr, google.com, etc. This manifests itself in a few ways, but the most important one is this - only one language version of a page can be listed in Google Local. So if I search for "madrid hotel" in google.co.uk:
And google.es:
You see that I get a combination of .com (English) and .es (Spanish) results. This is handled reasonably well because there's a leaning towards .es sites in google.es. Cool! But the problem comes when you have two versions of the same content in different languages; whether it's on a subdomain, subfolder or local TLD, it doesn't matter to Google Local -- you can only have one listing for one location. So the Hotel Regente in the above example (which has multiple languages on the site) can only ever rank with the Spanish homepage, even for searches in the UK, in English. That sucks, right? I really wish there was a way to fix this - Google is really good at detecting this in the regular SERPs, so it'd be great to roll that language/geotargeting detection into the Google Local indexes as well.
Verification
This is the third issue and it relates to the above issues. If you have a large number of geographical locations (physical stores or hotels, for example), then registering them individually can be a real pain. Imagine having to coordinate hundreds of different local verifications all with consistent data and accurate information. But you don't need to do that, right? Surely you can just submit a bulk upload? Well you CAN, but as shown above a bulk upload just isn't that trusted by Google, so the only option is to verify them individually which is nigh on impossible if you have many, many locations...
Advice
So what's the point of this post? Well, it's two-fold. Firstly, it's to highlight some of the issues Google Local is facing at the moment so that you can understand better how to optimise your site (or your client's sites). Secondly, it's to offer a few tips which you can start mulling over and hopefully put into practice:
1) Don't rely on a bulk upload unless you have to
Given the ability of webmasters to edit local listings and given the relatively untrusted nature of the bulk upload, I urge you to try and register individually the locations/properties you want in Google Local.
2) Only create one listing for each individual location
Even if you have multiple language pages or multiple properties at the same location, ensure that only one of them is registered with Google Local. At the moment they're not good at handling businesses with the same address.
3) Think about using KML Geositemaps if you have many locations
If it's unfeasible to register all of your properties individually (or even while you're putting that process in place), consider using a Geositemap since this should be more trusted than the bulk upload, as it relies on the same sitemap file verification process which is intrinsically more trusted than the upload process since it's tied to your domain.
Further Reading
And last but not least, if you want to know more about Google Local, consult these resources as they cover a lot of the issues I've touched upon in a lot more detail!
Davis just wrote another killer blog post filled with suggested changes to the way Google Local works which I think is highly relevant to this post and makes for very interesting reading:
https://www.davidmihm.com/blog/google/new-google-maps-features
Here's some related info that came up today ... this is cool: Google Local Business Center Adds Detailed Analytics
I'm not seeing it in my Google Local account yet, but I'm in Canada. Hopefully they add it soon.
Also interesting for all you Canadians out there. If you go to this link:
https://www.google.com/local/add/
it may or may not give you the ability to add coupons. Tell it you're in the US though, and you can:
https://www.google.com/local/add/businessCenter?gl=US&hl=en-US
There are probably some other features that you get with the US version as well.
You can add coupons even if you're in the UK. :)
That feature has been around for at least 18 months.
Tom, really nice overview of Local + I'm glad to see it getting such prominent play on the 'Moz blog. Not every SEO's eyes are open to the dramatic "invasion" of Local results into universal yet, but more posts like this will help them.
As for Google Maps' specific weaknesses, both spam and merging issues have been well-documented by Mike Blumenthal in particular, so I'm glad you linked to his blog.
Manual claiming can make a dramatic difference in ranking (sometimes the difference between being IN the 10-pack and NOT) and is an essential first step, IMHO. So is making sure your information is correct at primary data providers & relevant IYP's and directories in your area and industry.
Good addition here. Another consideration is appearing in map searches and app searches for hand-held devices. Yelp has it's own app, and Urbanspoon's (part of the citysearch partner network) recent purchase by IAC clearly shows the interest in this space.
Google has a new practice for businesses with multiple locations to submit via the bulk upload and have the resulting listings verified without the phone call or postcard. It is called whitelisting.
I have gotten 3 of our clients whitelisted who have hundreds of stores nationwide, and am in the process of getting more of them whitelisted. The bulk uploads are then verified listings.
It is worth doing for clients with multiple locations.
I'd love to hear more about this process if you're willing to share? I've not seen this talked about anywhere before...
This would be big news for my clients. While I've heard speculation about a new process, I haven't seen any communications from Google on it. Would you be able to share more information?
I went ahead and wrote a post for Youmoz on how to get on the whitelist feeds beta, although not showing up yet. It is pretty long & I probably shouldn't post it in the comments. :-) Keep an eye out for it or I would be happy to send it to you directly!
Great stuff, thanks a lot of sharing - hopefully Rebecca will get the youmoz post up soon :-)
@Whitespark
The new analytics function is available for US listings only.
For the small businesses I work with, getting that Local listing activated is the easiest thing in the world to do.
It doesn't bring a huge amount of traffic, but it does bring an increase.
There's additional fields that you can fill in with extra information; fill those in for the people that click through to "more details" rather than to the site itself.
Site based in London, England? Do write your telephone number in the correct 020 xxxx xxxx format, in order to be recognised as being a London number.
Yeah, it tends to work pretty well for small businesses - you can just manually verify and that's pretty much job done. For larger businesses with multiple locations though (and in particular, those spanning multiple languages) it gets a lot more complicated :-s
@omarinho
"We have tried Google local listing... and the process was really easy to do. But I wonder if there is a way to get the first position on Google local listings (similar to a SEO process) or if those listings are only built by a random sorting of Google :-0"
I got the first position in Google local for a very competitive search - "Mortgage" - I have the number 1 position for 2 keywords. A few other keyword searches vacillate back and forth between 2nd, and 3rd. I studied local search and worked on it long and hard. I did a search for my business with just my State (i.e. keyword + State) - for all my keywords - and I come up under just one search.
Here's what I found: For the State keyword searches where my listing was missing, I clicked the "more" link for all the businesses that WERE listed. I found w/o exception that all of them had third party verified listings with Yellow, Super Pages, Insider Pages, etc. I do not. They beat me out every time. The one State search where I did rank 1st, none of the other businesses listed had third party site verification - except one biz did have a Yahoo listing.
For the true Local searches where I ranked high, I have everything added: reviews, photos, videos - and I have great SEO with a Wordpress blog as my site link. When I check all my competition that's listed, very few of them have ANYTHING other than their basic information. It will probably be very easy to for other mortgage businesses to come in and knock them off the list. I get a good amount of visits, calls and emails.
I have been in the same position since I 1st put up my local listing 2 months ago.
I did recently list my biz with Insider Pages and Yahoo.
Hope this is helpful.
I've noticed local results creeping into universal results for a little while, but never really thought about it.
And unfortunately, I think that due to the spamming, we will soon see Google clamp down on Local listings, which many smaller businesses rely on when it's hard to compete with heavy brands and websites with a large budget. It was always good to fall back on local listings when client's get antsy about the organic side.
I was reading over at Search Engine Roundtable aboput the new guidelines they have inforced. One being one listing per location. We have two. Not to spam the engine, but we are a marketing and accounting firm. These two unrelated industries are hard to gain results for. I understand a lawyer should not post one listing for malpractice and one for workers comp, but I think it is still ok for us to list as two industries
In my experience local listings only tend to bring in any real traffic when it is a geo specific search ie, "seo in leeds".
I have seen very few if any searchers come from the listings who were searching broader terms.
Saying that, it is so easy to implement there is no reason not to get it done.
Local search opt is definitely something we need to focus more on...
I'm ranking for a few local search results but interestingly the traffic to my site hasn't been as high as I'd expect. Probably due to the type of query/keyword more than anything.I find that mobile users will really blow local search up...especially when more people get internet access. The local results are the only thing I look at when I'm using my phone...don't have the patience or time to keep searching the SERPs.
Good information for both small and large businesses.
I'm a big fan of Google Local. For the right kind of site, you can get some nice results from it. Personally, I don't ever use the Yellow Pages anymore. Google is my Yellow Pages now.
I've been getting really frusterated lately at the amount of listings that I see in the local section that have ridiculously spammy titles that include tons of keyword stuffing. Unfortunately, these listings are achieving really high rankings and don't seem to be getting peanalized at all. I've tried reporting a few as spam, but it doesn't seem like anything ever gets removed or edited. Does anyone know of a way to report these listings other than filling out that little form on Google's forum/help center?
I've been getting really frusterated lately at the amount of listings that I see in the local section that have ridiculously spammy titles that include tons of keyword stuffing. Unfortunately, these listings are achieving really high rankings and don't seem to be getting peanalized at all. I've tried reporting a few as spam, but it doesn't seem like anything ever gets removed or edited. Does anyone know of a way to report these listings other than filling out that little form on Google's forum/help center?
thanks.
Fantastic insights.
I wonder how long it will take for Google to iron out the spamming problems - if not soon the local listings are going to get hijacked even worse!
Google local is popping up in searches without geographical modifers? that's interesting.
I recently had a friend of the family approach me about getting their Catering business into Google local. I went ahead and set them up with a google account and entered the listing in.
At first they were not showing up in the 10-box.
What I found is that the more info you put into Google local the better your chances of ranking in the SERPs with it. Also it seems that having a website also gives a better chance of showing up.
The people I set up don't have a site so I suggested they add some more detailed info. They put in a coupon and a bit more information, got some reviews put in from loyal customers and now they are showing up in the 10-box.
Also don't use the same phone number for different listings in different locations. I did this and google eventually deleted my listing. 1 listing 1 phone number.
Also, I find the click throughs are not as high as in the main SERPs - interested to know if others have found this. I think users are still not familiar with the local listings and avoid them.
This is an excellent article for a number of reasons.
1. Moz has huge readership.
2. The examples are enlightening--and they are of a high profile industry with large revenues. This industry and their members should hold Google and the other search engines responsible for getting accurate information and for correcting inaccurate information. The difference results in large losses of existing or potential information.
3. Having been fortunate to be included in David Mihm's survey...it is an excellent source for describing the elements that seem to impact rankings within Google Maps. IMHO, there are significant differences in rankings subject to how competitive a topic is within google maps.
4. Lastly I don't want to forget Matt and Martijn referenced above who also publish great stuff about local and Maps.
Dave
4. Nobody spends more time reviewing what seems to work and doesn't work within Google Maps then Mike Blumenthal at https://blumenthals.com/blog. Its worth a read as is David's current review and his review from the last year. One difference seems to be is that there is a higher level of agreement on what seems to impact rankings in G Maps than last year.
5. All of the versions of Local/Maps are full of inacuracies. You can see them in searches at Yahoo Local and MSN/Live/Bing Local. Spammers spammed the data sources that filled these elements of the search engines and the algo's that the engines have developed are in their early stages of development IMHO.
This is a good primer on local search and a nice introduction to Google's browser based variety. David Mihm's collection of local search factors really is a handy guide and is regularly cited as such, so it's definitely worth checking out.
Also, for people considering optimizing for local, don't ignore sites other than Google: Yelp, Superpages, Citysearch... basically any site that offers a way for you to verify your address and is linked to reviews provides an opportunity for you to gain more exposure (and links). They also help offer other address signals that help to solidify the location of your business.
This is a really interesting post. I have a question about optimising for the Google Local results. If you are in a competitve market (e.g. seo, mortgages, insurance etc) there are obviously going to be more than 10 in your area. Are there ways to help google to select you into the 10 box rather than your competitors?
Hi petes,
Yeah there's quite a lot you can do - I've not really touched on it in this post but I strongly suggest you check out David Mihm's 2009 search ranking factors (linked to from the bottom of my post) as that covers a whole bunch of ways to optimise for top rankings in Local.
Thanks
Tom
Thanks for this timely information! I've been in the process of optimizing a site for local and was having a hard time finding good information about how those local factors are generated.
This reply is for petes 1980 who asked about Google local for mortgage, insurance, etc.
He said: "This is a really interesting post. I have a question about optimising for the Google Local results. If you are in a competitve market (e.g. seo, mortgages, insurance etc) there are obviously going to be more than 10 in your area. Are there ways to help google to select you into the 10 box rather than your competitors? Here's my 8 cent reply: I am in the mortgqge business as a Mortgage Consultant for almost 10 years. I work for a correspondent lender/broker. But I wanted my name/the company name/city to come up in the listings. After reading ALL the handy info online. I never doubted I could do it. And I did. My individual listing outranks my big company listing in 4 different categories on Google Local. And my office hired a big commercial advertising outfit to do all their internet work. Shame. I did all my own work. It can be done Pete. PM me if you want to know the details.
I tried to list my company but I always come up short. We are in limousine business in Madison and Milwaukee, WI
If you could send your ideas to [email protected] I would appreciate.
Alex.
Although I do see the long term benefits of google local, I am not a huge fan.I am not big into SEO, but within my little niche I have seen several problems with it. 1) Some locations have various addresses and I do not see how that can be tracked by google. For example, a resort area can be 1234 X st, 1235 X st, and 1236 x st. Now how is google going to understand that that is the same place? At this point it does not seem that they do.2) If they are pulling reviews from a third party this also causes a problem to where the reviews go.
I posted a QA on this and got great feedback, but from what I read from the QA is that at this point in time google can not figure this out.
Spent quite a bit of time today looking at the local SERPs, coincinentally. Ran across this afterwards.
What amazes me is that the spammers don't even bother with getting local phone numbers anymore, they just go ahead and list their office number in, oh, lets say, Nevada, even though they're spamming Google local on a national level. I don't understand why they can't add a local area code lookup to the algo??
I realize the spam-around would be fairly easy, but at least make 'em pay for an 800 number :)
Fantastic insights.
I wonder how long it will take for Google to iron out the spamming problems - if not soon the local listings are going to get hijacked even worse!
Being able to edit other people's listings is dangerous. Especially in highly competitive markets, I can just see the type of espionage that could transpire. Great post... much more info than one should reasonably consume :P PR: wait... I: wait... L: wait... LD: wait... I: wait...wait... Rank: wait... Traffic: wait... Price: wait... C: wait...
I did notice that my site started showing up when I did a non-location specific keyword search. Very interesting.
There is a dead site that shows up on top of my keyword search in the Google Local results and has for several years - just seems such a waste.
Overall I find Google Local very useful and it's the first place I go when setting up a new site.
Thanks for the detailed overview.
We have tried Google local listing... and the process was really easy to do. But I wonder if there is a way to get the first position on Google local listings (similar to a SEO process) or if those listings are only built by a random sorting of Google :-0
Well it not really that specific it depends exactly where you are in a postcode and how you have optimised your site how can you be no 1 in two seperate place where if you look at the map you could be further away
Perplexing
Graham
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