Hello, Moz community! My name is Derric Wise and I am the Art Director here at Moz. After three years here,, I have often been asked the same two questions:
The second question is attached to a longer of an answer, which is what this post is all about. Let me introduce you to Matthew Heilman who, as Creative Director in 2010, hatched the idea that eventually led to the creation of our beloved Roger.
Without further adieu, let’s hear it from the man himself...
Q: Who are you? Let us know where you hail from and what you do.
My name is Matthew Heilman (insert
shameless plug) and I currently reside in the perpetually damp city of Seattle (go Sonics!). I'm currently the lead UX designer for the mobile properties over at Nordstrom, which is actually a few blocks north of where the main Moz office is. My number one goal at Nordstrom is to make our customers happy by providing them with intuitive and relevant features, with a sprinkling of fun. I guess if you really want to simplify it, you could say that I make it easy for people to buy nice pants while they're on the move. Prior to being at Nordstrom, I was the Creative Director at the SEOmoz and was the mad scientist behind the creation of Roger.
Q: What inspired you to create Roger?
I remember when I first came to SEOmoz; there was only a handful of people in comparison to the cornucopia of folks there now! With that said, the brand and design were also in their beginning stages. Matt Inman had created a great start and established a consistent design language for the company at the time, which was awesome because I didn't inherit total craziness. One thing I personally thought that Moz didn't have at the time was a visual voice or champion for the brand. We did have two things going for us, though: a recognizable logo, and a CEO who was a figurehead in the community.
I had sketched up some random ideas prior to creating Roger, one of which was taking Rand and turning him into a cartoon character. I ditched that direction because I felt that, as a brand, we should create a voice that wasn't anchored by a real human and had more of a 3rd party role. When thinking of a mascot, I wanted to create something that was a little more fun and approachable. With Roger, I really wanted to create was something that would almost make you feel bad when you thought about leaving; kind of like the feeling you get when you try to leaving your house and your puppy is crying. (But seriously, don’t leave SEOmoz because if you do, then you make puppies cry.) Really what came about was a lovable-looking robot that really made you feel good about the decision you made to be a part of the SEOmoz community.
Q: Where did you get the name Roger?
Honestly, I would love to tell you that it came to me in a dream while I was on a long trek across Tibet, but that one was all Scott Willoughby. Scott was SEOmoz's Director of Conversion and Retention Marketing during the time that I was working on Roger. He was integral about backing the idea of having a cartoon robot play a role in the brand, and he also had some really stellar ideas about what we could do. I remember brainstorming ideas at the time, and Scott’s suggestion of Roger just seemed to make sense. It really fit the whole lovable robot idea perfectly, in my opinion.
Q: Why a robot and not a camelopard (Google it!)?
Because a camelopard only has +10 stealth and is susceptible to magic attacks, and everyone knows a robot is impervious to magic attacks. Actually, a camelopard sounds pretty sweet. Maybe you guys can add a little antagonist into the mix and make it a camelopard?
In all reality, during the time I was kicking around ideas, the robot just seemed like a good fit with the industry. Something mechanical and a little more sci-fi was more of a natural fit.
Q: What problems were you trying to solve by adding a mascot to the brand?
At the time, there really weren't too many problems with brand identity that I was trying to address with Roger. My main goal was to steer SEOmoz away from what the rest of the industry was doing, which was having real life spokespeople be the identity behind the brand. At the time, we had Rand who was a figurehead in the industry, but it just seemed too familiar in comparison to what other people were doing with brand recognition. We had a real opportunity as a younger company to try something different and outside of the box.
I think you run into situations with real life spokespeople that are hard to get out of. Perceptions can change on a dime with real life mascots, and it’s sometimes hard to change direction, especially when the spokesperson is your CEO. With Roger, we could always pull back and try something different if it was a massive fail. I also go back to what I previously said about creating a mascot that has these lovable qualities -- qualities that appeal to a broad range of people.
Q: In your experience, has the mascot helped the SEOmoz brand?
Most definitely. Having Roger has helped establish SEOmoz into its own sort of brand niche. The fact that we created momentum and recognition with Roger was great; we made a decision as a company to lead in the industry when it came to mascots and visual recognition. It's tough to set yourself apart from the competition these days, whether with technology innovation or brand innovation. It's really about seeing what the competition is doing and going into a different direction that is still relevant.
However, I wish it was just as easy as creating a mascot and, wah-lah, you have a recognizable brand. You almost have to tread a fine invisible line with mascots, because you can really get into a situation where you overexpose the mascot and dilute the true focus, which should be that of product innovation and customer service. I think the mascot is really secondary, or even tertiary, to good product design when it comes to visual hierarchy in the brand. A good user experience and useful features is really where the focus needs to be when it comes to the brand of the company; this is really what keeps people coming back.
It’s really easy for people to create a mascot and put it on everything imaginable, but you can get to a point where people just don’t want to see it anymore and it loses its impact. I would almost compare that scenario to an overplayed song like "The Macarena." I really think SEOmoz has done a great job of not over exposing its users to Roger. Moz has really used Roger as the sort of loveable hook to get people in, but has also focused on the priority of creating great features and providing outstanding customer service.
Thanks, Matt! And there you have it, folks. That’s the backstory of Roger. Let's all marvel at his work for a second:
However, the story does not end there. Matt and I go way back. I mean WAAAY back -- like all the way to second grade back. As you can see, we have always been hard at work creating things together.
When I started at SEOmoz, my first project was to expand the Roger character. I have a background in illustration, so I broke out my trusty pencil and started animating Roger in alternate poses, adding different costumes and situations, the works. To this day, I literally have piles of hand drawn Roger images and assets that we then scan and rebuild in Adobe Illustrator. Currently, we are developing new landscape scenes for Roger to live in, which we call the "Land of Moz" around the office. Ultimately, this expansion to Roger’s lifestyle helped redefine Roger to become the robot we all know and love today.
The changes made to Roger are both minute and drastic at the same time. Rather than list out each difference, I will just show you. After all, I am a visual type of person. Check it out!
Let's not forget Roger's finest performance: The SEOmoz Harlem Shake
Awesome article Derric. Love how you're using Roger to associate Moz with positive user experiences.
"Beep!"
Lol - that video made my day - is that funny!
He is bigger than I thought he would be!
this youtube link also perform well
Thanks Cyrus,
Roger actually dance better than me ;)
He even lost his antenna during the dance.
Is there any truth to the rumour that Roger Mozbot is the love-child of Rosie, from the Jetsons, and Bender "Bending" Rodriguez of Futurama fame?
We demand answers!
I will plead the fifth.
I'm still waiting for the hug from Roger that was promised when I accumulated my first 50 points.
Every morning, I'd wake up and open my front door -- expecting to see that Roger had arrived on my doorstep overnight via transporter beam and was waiting patiently to give me my hug.
But perhaps Roger is more like Santa and slides down the chimney? Mine is blocked. Is that the explanation?
Some of my little friends say there is no Roger. Papa says: "If you see it on SEOMOZ, it's so." Please tell me the truth; is there a Roger?
There IS a Roger. Come to Mozcon and I promise there's hugs waiting. Roger's just not as portable in the real world as his web exploring self.
Well played, Sir.
Yeah for sure. Come to mozcon and you will be guaranteed to get some robot hugs.
0-50 points give a smile
When 50 -199 Roger will give a hug just check this Mos points page
All waiting has its own meaning and value.........
There was a time when waiting to get a PIN from Google Adsense Team
Later its was sweet waiting for the check when the threshold reach 100
This is so much fun to learn about the creation and rationale behind your mascot. Smart marketing move (and that is my former background). BTW, I used to work on Hawaiian Punch, and our mascot, Punchy, made a big difference - How 'bout a nice Hawaiian Punch? I guess taglines help, too.
Thanks Debbie,
I love Punchy, he is one of the best mascots to exist. He still holds up stylistically even thou he was originally concocted in the 1960's .
I knew bits and pieces of this story but not the entire "birth" of Roger. ;-) Loved it...thanks for the share Derric.
Roger the mozbot, a great & lively character in the seo scene. A mascot which we in SEO industry love the most and the one which has helped SEOMOZ build a great brand. It was great to know about roger’s evolution.
Thanks for sharing. I assumed the name came from the military "Roger Wilco" or maybe the Space Quest character.
We kinda just started calling him Roger. Wish we had some sort of cool conceptual reason for the name, but I think he just looks like a Roger. LOL
Hey!I thought of that as well!you know what they say - great minds think a like
Yep, he just felt like a Roger to me, so I started calling him Roger Mozbot and by the time he was ready for his public debut, the name had stuck internally. The rest is history.
I'm so glad he didn't feel like a Dave to you. We have about eight people named Dave or David at Moz now, and that would get so terribly confusing.
Glad to know the history of Roger
Love this "Origin Story" post, Derric. So I guess this means that Roger is not a Cylon... (breathes sigh of relief).
Hey Moz Staff
Is it true Roger and Android are first cousins ?
I don't think so, That a Android looks more like a green alien android, and Roger is more of a 1950's 1960;s inspired man made robot.
Great response Derric,
I think you are emotionally more caring our Roger.
Let us hope there will not be any copyright/ trademark/ legal issues and infringement cases on Roger vs Android.... he he
Great post and backstory on one of the coolest mascots around. I can think of some NBA teams (among other brands) would do well to heed this advice. Thanks for the peek behind the scenes, Derric!
Cheers -- Hunter
(99% Unrelated) P.S. I visited friends in Yakima a while back, and loved the wine country and friendly people. Even wound up on the local news. Fun times.
Thanks hbxfactor,
Yes the people in Yakima are definitely awesome. I grew up out in wine country, in fact my family still has a fruit stand/ wine store out in Ellensburg WA. 5231 Thorp Prairie Rd Cle Elum, .Washington 98922. Exit 93 on I-90 east. www.redskyorchards.com/ They have best peaches on earth! check them out in July or August. You wont regret it.
This post is full of awesome. Really engaging back story and choice illustrations. You know the community is going to eat this one up, everyone loves Roger!
Thanks axzm.
I loved the article Derric. Knowing the history and genesis of a brand component strengthens the emotional connection while to the brand component (Roger in this case) and the brand (SEOmoz). Stories are the #1 marketing tool (IMHO) when told well.
Not making a the brand identity a figure head was smart and creative while affording SEOmoz much more flexibility of in terms leadership and ultimately of ownership. Not trying to start rumors, but Roger can survive the far off retirement of Rand :-p
The nice thing about Roger is that over 108,063 SEOmoz Facebook fans, the 212,361 SEOmoz blog subscribers can spot Roger and immediately feel a brand connection, which in turn, beyond the warm fuzzies, no doubt greatly enhances CTRs in the news and rss feeds.
I have noticed that the SEOmoz fan base has been on steady rise of late. Hats off to Derric and Roger for their role in that rise and of course to Jennifer Lopez for her strong, effective community leadership.
Thanks Rick,
That's exactly what I was thinking. Mascots and a strong logo really help with brand connection, but it the people like Jennifer that really give the character and the brand a strong voice.
Great history lesson of one of SEO's most recognizable mascots!
Sound like a fairy tale!
Its great to know the Roger's story. How Roger born and become the brand identity. Really, Roger playing an important role in connecting the SEOMoz and users. Thanks Derric for the share.
Hurrah for Roger :) I look forward every day to getting my Roger teeshirt! He's a great brand mascot, perfectly geeky.
Soon Littlesthobo very soon. I have some cool ideas on some cool Roger shirts.
This post is pretty loveable, and background knowledge of the roger (brand image) of SEOMOZ.
Does Roger have any relatives or friendbots?
Derric, Great share, and quite in depth I might add! I love that he is able to smile! Does he have a girlfriend??
Thanks Jborgueta,
No girlfriend, we only had it in the budget to build one self aware robot.
Its like getting to know Roger better. I had a good time reading this interview specially that it tells about how Roger evolved. Well, one thing is foe sure Roger has been gaining a lot of his fans. He has that good vibes with the people.
Fantastic post!
I love Roger and he'll always be close to my internet marketing heart.
Glad you liked it Todd
Thanks
Great behind the scenes post, guys! We really don't have these enough around here. As for the Harlam Shake video...who knew Roger could get down like that?
I know right. He can really move.
Now it can be told. Roger is the secret love child of the Robot from the 60's TV Series Lost In Space.
lol, ok sounds good.
My fiance' is in love with Roger - takes all my little stickers and I have seem to have "lost" my little Roger USB.
Is there anyway to get another one ?
Happy WEDday Mozzgang
Your pal,
Chenzo
Thanks Chenzo,
I think the best way to snag your self some super cool roger swag is to attend a Mozcation https://www.seomoz.org/mozcation or Mozcon :https://www.seomoz.org/mozcon. You also can just drop by our headquarters at 119 Pine St., Suite 400 Seattle, WA 9810. We will be glad to stock you up on some cool seomoz swag.
I love this blog, but I pronounce the company name "See-oh Moz". I hope that is acceptable.
Thanks Iain B,
"See-oh Moz" sounds good to me. Go for it!
"A camelopard only has +10 stealth and is susceptible to magic attacks"
That's the kind of data-driven marketing we do.
My daughter now loves Roger, and I'm not even in the main office. I honestly feel like he's a co-worker.
He kinda is.
Great Post Derric! Thanks for explaining the origin of such beloved Mascot! Roger #Rocks
Roger is one of my top 10 favorite robotic mascots of all time!
Thanks Clayburn
Footnote: To 'Roger' someone, is common parlance in the UK... it means to have sexual intercourse full of particularly good fun.
Thought it might be important to let people know.
I've Shelly'd a few people, if you know what I mean.
Wink, wink. Nudge, nudge. Say no more, say no more.
LOL duly noted.
Do you think Roger will ever been given a voice? If so, who/what would he sound like?
Good question Steviephill.
I have thought about this a lot, and I think it makes scene to not have a voice. I want people to fill in that level of detail with there own imagination. If I add a voice that I think fits I run the risk of messing with fans personal interpretation of our mascot. After all the mascot is not for me He is for you guys. We are working on is sound effects, You can get a idea of what direction we are going in with the whiteboard Friday intro made by our awesome Interactive Designer Traver Hoar.
https://www.seomoz.org/blog/category/whiteboard-friday
www.seomoz.org/blog/category/whiteboard-friday
Never!!!!
I like to think of him as Bender from Futurama, minus the attitude and drinking.
What about use of Roger smileys in the comments on SEOmoz?
I can't wait to meet Roger at Moz Con this year!!!!
This years Moz Con is going to be so Awesome. See you there.
Looking forward to it!
Great article and nice story to match. Is there any chance we can get a Roger-volution?
https://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02210/evo2_2210436b.jpg
Thanks Steven,
Good idea, it may be really short there has only been two evolutions.
I think Roger has been great for the branding. I always underestimated the recognition a mascot could bring. I'm close to the air conditioning industry, Bryant has a superhero and dog mascot. I couldn't make up that some contractors would keep figurines on their desk. I still can't put my finger on what it really accomplishes but it positively influences the brand perception.
"Because a camelopard only has +10 stealth and is susceptible to magic attacks, and everyone knows a robot is impervious to magic attacks." I'm a nerd, so that made me super happy. I came for the history of Roger and I stayed for Roger-as-Mummy.
yeah..like the idea hopefully will have one soon.
Where can I get the Roger the Mozbot toy?
hope to get it soon as i am about to hit 1000 points...:P