Some folks have been asking for my opinions of Hitwise & Alexa data recently, and I figured the best I could do would be to illustrate the sampling problems of both with some real life data.
First off, let's look at SEOmoz's traffic levels over the last few months. This comes courtesy of our Indextools stats program + Feedburner data for RSS. You can see more on our advertising page.
SEOmoz Traffic from July to Present Day
The graph shows the days we had big linkbait, the linkbait bump and the relative levels of increase as we went from around 5,000 daily uniques to 7,500 daily uniques (July to August).
Feedburner Stats for SEOmoz's RSS Feed
The Feedburner data for "all time" says our average number of subscribers per day is ~3000, with a majority of those arriving on days when we blog a lot (they're less sensitive to linkbait than the visitor traffic numbers).
Alexa Data for SEOmoz over the summer
Alexa is estimating that for every million Internet users, SEOmoz is read by 1070 of them. We're also nearly into the top 1000 most popular websites in the world. Obviously, this data is completely bogus - our traffic rank is probably somewhere between 80-100,000 (or lower) and our reach is probably around 5-10 users per million.
Hitwise's Rank for SEOmoz among all "Web Development" focused sites
Hitwise's data shows us a few positions above Flock (the alternative browser) and below zen-cart.com. We're the 611th most popular site in the web development category, and while I think this data might be closer to accurate, it's worth looking at who Hitwise thinks is at the top of this chart:
Hitwise on the Top 20 Sites in Web Development
Real traffic data was tough to come by, but one of these sites - Pimpyourpro.com - had this to say on their advertising page:
Would you like your site listed on one of the most popular MySpace Help websites on the net? We average 1.4 million page loads and about 185,000 unique visitors each day.
I'm inclined to trust those numbers to a relative degree (though I don't doubt they could be somewhat inflated). Basically, we're looking at a site that gets approximately 25X the number of visitors per month as SEOmoz. Let's see what Alexa has to say about that:
This is where you start to see the massive disconnect that Alexa can sometimes provide. Hitwise isn't always better, especially as they don't provide any real estimation of traffic level, just comparisons. What is illustrated above is the need to go beyond a reporting service and get the data yourself to be sure you're looking at something accurate. When Alexa or Hitwise gives you numbers, compare those to what similar sites are reporting on their advertising pages or in public stats they provide. Using those figures, you can generally get a good sense of who's under or over-reporting and to what degree.
p.s. With Hitwise reporting that Pimpyourpro gets 2.07% of traffic in that market and SEOmoz.org gets less than 0.01%, they're underreporting our traffic by an order of magnitude of ~10X. I.e.
Imagine that all the webdev category sites receive 9 million uniques per day.
Pimpyourpro.com - 9 mil x 2.07% = 186,300 visitors per day
SEOmoz.org - 9 mil x 0.01% = 900 visitors per dayIn reality it should be something like:
SEOmoz.org - 9 mil x 0.085% = 7650 visitors per day
Have you evaluated Compete.com? They have access to more data than Hitwise - ISP + toolbar, plus they normalize their data to show actual US traffic numbers. Stats are still sample based, but my guess is that having access more data makes them more reliable.
check data out here: https://home.compete.com/alexaholic/index.php
Randfish - Really interesting post I am glad I was referred to your site. Here is how it happened; I asked this open quesion "One indicator to use when evaluating an MLM is looking at their Alexa Rating to see if they are in momentum or decline - Agree or Disagree?"
One of the responses was "disagree" and my tweep sent me here for backup. It is intersting because so many marketers and bloggers point to their Alexa ranking as athority for their websites and blogs - some even post their Alexa feed stats on their site and I think many have grown to accept the premise as true. It soounds like there are a few gaps, doesn't make the information irellevant but it does prove that it is not absolute.
I am glad to have found you, it looks like you are offering great information, resources and tools. I will indeed return here often.
Best wishes,
James
https://www.Twitter.com/AskJamesHolmes
Any updates to this post re: Hitwise? I'm seeing some bizarre numbers and I'd like to confirm that they are, indeed, funky.
Thanks,
Mike Corso
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Everything I read seems to suggest Alexa rankings make a difference to your ranking. I'm helping a charity with their website but despite a sensible page rank (PR4), lots of traffic to the website and enquiries it seems they have an Alexa rank of 3.3 million.
How can this be correct and would an Alexa ranking matter for SEO purposes?
https://www.debtsupporttrust.org.uk
Thanks for your thoughts in advance!
I agree with Jeremy. Who is actually installing an Alexa toolbar these days anyway? I can't imagine where the value is.
For Alexa to claim any type of reliable data is laughable and it borders on irresponsible.
I've seen a lot of buzz about Hitwise in recent months (since the MySpace is bigger than Yahoo buzz). Most discussion has been rather negative towards Hitwise, which I do not think is totally fair.
I will say that my company is a client of Hitwise and has been for a few years. It's expensive, but it is the most comprehensive and reliable sample-driven market share data available. It is as good as its sample, and its sample (provided by ISP logs) seems like the best possible source.
That being said, I don't believe it is useful for sites that generate less than 10,000 daily uniques. For sites of that size, you really have to use monthly data (like you did) to produce reliable results. For large sites it will be very reliable, and is still useful for smaller sites.
The best thing about Hitwise is that it is protected from abuse from people like us. Because they don't release which ISPs they gather the data from there is no way to "juice" their results to increase your own site's prominence. Everyone has heard stories of Alexa numbers being tweaked by half a dozen toolbars moving a site from 500,000 to 50,000 in no time.
Because not every site releases its statistics, and those that do are of dubious authenticity, we need third parties like Hitwise to estimate traffic. Their sample-driven methodology is the most reliable currently available, and they have the largest sample. Alexa, on the other hand, serves no purpose except to confuse and aggravate.
Wasn't it "MySpace is bigger than MSN"?
Hehe - you just got blogspammed....
The Hitwise data you've shown looks really off in general to me.
That's really all they offer :(
I have never trusted any of those stats from HW or Alexa. Especially Alexa. The demographic that installs that toolbar is so one sided in my opinion.
And once again Rand, you amaze me. Publically releasing your website stats. You are always willing to share the info that everyone wants but almost no one is willing to share. Of course that's the reason those stats look so good.
And a final note, did anyone take down that phone #? I need a cheap laptop and lost the paper I wrote it down on. ;)
Of course the most important stat ANY system could give would be to inform you of the QUALITY of the visitors who visit.
Webmasters have to now Guess that from the Referrers - but that is Not always accurate - however, there IS a correlation.
This of course, is in the near future as personalization and tracking becomes more hi tech.
But to explore the QUALITY angle....
(Being somewhat extreme) One visit from Tim Berners Lee or Vint Cerf or Bill Gates or Linus T. or Sergey and Larry or Yang and Filo is worth XXXXX time the number of regular geek visitors to a geek site.
In the near future there probably will be a QUALTY SCORE assigned to the day's overall visits....and in the distant future Virtually EACH visitor or I.P address will be assigned a QUALITY Score that will be based on a number of site-relevant factors
Oh, https://search-engines-web.com
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