Howdy Gang,
This week, Rand talks about directories and why so many of them have little to no value. Don't be mistaken though, there are still plenty out there that can be of serious help to a link building campaign.
For those of you who have Premium Membership, and want to try your hand at building some high-quality directory links, check out the section on directory link building in The Professional's Guide to Link Building and then hit up all of the hand-reviewed directories we recommend in The Premium Link Directory.
UPDATE from Rand: I wanted to provide a quick run-down process on how to determine if the directory you're submitting to is valuable.
- Does the directory itself (the home page) rank for any of the moderately competitive terms in it's title, e.g. for Aviva Directory, whose title tag is "Information - Aviva Web Directory," I searched Google for information web directory and didn't find them in the first 500 results.
- Do the pages inside the directory rank well for their targeted phrases, e.g. I might check the financial forums page at Aviva by searching for financial forums information directory at Google - again, not in the top 500 results (even though the page is recently indexed). If I dont' find general pages, I'll search for more specific ones, like their page on ScaleModel.net with a search for international list of scale model related web sites (unbelievably not in the top 300)
- Check the links to the directory - do they appear legitimate and valuable, e.g. For Aviva - 907,819 to the domain, 683,573 to the homepage. They're at close to a million links, but can't rank for even 5-6 word phrases in their title tags... Something's funny.
- Check out mentions of the domain on the web - do they come from legitimate sources? Is it mostly SEO-related websites that are talking about them? If so, the engines might have less trust in them than in other types of sites, e.g. for Aviva, searching google for avivadirectory.com -site:avivadirectory.com.
- Check the page strength - do they have links from edu and gov domains? Are they listed in places like dmoz or Wikipedia? Do blogs regularly link to them (Technorati numbers)? What's their PageRank? etc. For Aviva, they're a PS 7 (although the Technorati numbers aren't coming through right now).
This process is valuable because you can see that despite a lot of good looking factors on the exterior - PR, inlinks, etc. the rankings of the pages would indicate that something's funny... Good thing we checked.
Hi Rand,Good video and I found it quite enlightening. For the most I agree with that general directories don’t provide much in the way of link equity. Many times I have viewed in forum or blog discussions webmasters, site owners and SEO’s discussing directories based on page rank. Each time I have looked at their examples, none of these directories offered anything of value. None of their internal pages ranked at all, no relevant information and most of the submitters were other directory owners or sites that had read somewhere that high PR created high rankings.
However, there are some very good general directories that work on different levels to your regular ‘run-of-the-mill link farm’ to this end we set out a couple of years ago to build a directory that provided the following:
Scalable architecture - meaning that it will allow growth and additional add-ons
Usability - We found by building a directory that met at least the minimum web standards guidelines – allowed for page load speeds and accessibility.
Readable URL’s – One of the biggest complaints with directories is the deeper you get the more unfriendly the URL becomes. I’m talking not just about your regular session ‘ids’ but characters in the URL that at times produced lengthy strings. With this in mind we set out to create every deep category with its correct naming convention.
Content – Next we wanted to tackle how visitors and search engines viewed each category of the directory. We felt an explanation or rather a lead-in giving a few facts about the category would be useful to a visitor – we found this was a three way crossing – it gave a visitor useful information, it provided the directory submitter with a good feeling that we were working hard to increase directory popularity, and it showed a search engine that we were disseminating useful content and information.
Why stop there we asked ourselves? – we then linked this short page to a longer article or unique and well written information which in turn linked to other articles of good information which in turn had links on the side going back into other relevant areas of the directory. This had an almost immediate effect. We didn’t go out on a mass link building spree, we pointed one or two links to the articles - what we would call “at least let’s get the page noticed links” because the article was well written it started to pick up natural links. One of the Wikipedia editors linked a paragraph of the article into one of Wiki’s technical explanations. Following this, a virtual library member picked up on it and linked it of one of his satellite pages, it then got picked up by students in a couple of universities who in turn linked to it.
To this end we started creating more content including news, weather, travel and other areas of visitor interest – the more we did the more we ranked. It’s at the point now that traffic has grown quite steadily and visitors are actually using the directory. Okay, we have made a few mistakes and learnt by them – as a result we have toughened up on submissions and have what some may call unusual policies.
The PointThe whole point here is that not all general directories are a waste of time or money. I believe submitters need to be educated more on what is the difference between a good and bad directory – what value can it give to a site? Is it future proofed? Will it grow? And finally are the directory owners spending time, money and work on the directory to keep improving the quality?
"I believe submitters need to be educated more on what is the difference between a good and bad directory..."
Truth be told Vinnie!
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Great video Rand and SEO staff. I get all geared up for Whiteboard Friday's keep them coming!
well said, took the words out of my mind
The whole case is simple, if it ranks anywhere in the top100 for any of my keywords I want to be in it. If it has a reasonable one time fee and a clean backlink profile I want to be in it. It's not a matter of worthless or not worthless in general since every site is different and every keyword is different.
Good Stuff Rand, you know I think paying for directories is a waste of money to, but quite honestly maybe on some higher end sponsored directories links where you will get a direct pr6, or sometihng to that nature might be okay if you know what mean.
For example look at this one
https://www.excellentguide.com/computerdirectory.html
k pr6 right, 1 outbound good link love, but if you look at the details of that link
https://www.excellentguide.com/2632.html
its passing pr5 and there is no other outbounds, and that detail will keep the page rank, so i think a directory like this is worth it, but you probably know that already just my opinion thats all.
Also another thing I've realized about free directories which I think you just stated in your video is that after you submit to them after awhile the pr can go right up, say a year from now I check the directories, and theres a detail sectio for the links, and on the detail page there is a pr3-5, and my link is the only outbound link on the page becuase its the details section, but hey I got the link for free :).
Just my opinion on directories, but yea I agree with you most directories are a waste of money, but hey every ones got to make a living lol.
There are many directories like the one you just shown and i guess rand says these directories are just good for SEO and are not real web directories.
Rand,
Aviva itself appears to rank in the 900's for [web directory], out of 800,000,000 results. That phrase has an allinanchor: of 2,630,000. [search engine optimization] only has an allinanchor of 413,000.
Despite how you might want to spin it, for whatever reason, I think you have to give them some kind of credit, wouldn't you agree? They rank in the top 0.0001 percentile for an industry that is what appears to be 6 times more competitive than yours.
I would agree that the vast majority of directories are in fact nothing but a waste of time... but I also think that perhaps this particular directory does actually deserve some credit. You completely glossed over the fact that it really only matters if a directory ranks for the phrase [information web directory] if that happens to be something you are going after.
I mean, wtf Rand... they rank in the Top 200 for [real estate directory]... are you saying that they would be a waste of time for real estate webmasters to pursue that kind of relevancy? They are #202 for [shopping directory], in the 400's for [business directory], in the 200's for [insurance directory]... c'mon now.
Personally I think you should make a public apology for not doing anything resembling real research before slamming them.
"Good thing we checked"... please.
Michael - my apologies. I should have looked into Aviva more closely before posting about them. I think they've done a terrific job with linkbait and promotion, but as we've discussed over email, I'm a bit worried about why they have some of the funny Google rankings we see.
Here are a few of my personal directory link rules:
1. Page Rank for a directory's home page can be deceiving. It's easy enough for black hatters to fake page rank or to buy old domains and stick up a directory on it.
2. The site: operator is your best friend. Never submit to a page without running a search to see if the page is indexed and if it's in the supplemental results.
3. Don't get excited about 3 or 5 or 10 additional deep links for a submission. These pages with the rest of your links rarely get spidered and won't help you at all.
4. Hover over links and check your status bar (bottom of browser window) to make sure the links are not long strings or redirects. Then View Source and run a "find" query on "nofollow."
5. Don't submit if there's more than one page of results in your category.
6. Don't ever, ever, ever, ever, EVER buy a link on a "Word Cloud" site. Same goes for sponsoring a wordpress theme. In fact, just stay off the DigitalPoint link forum altogether.
Linda you are my Girl.. :)
One thing signiture links get diluted to zero when over used.
I didn't mean they have signature links for backlink value, it's just that everyone seems to be an Aviva affiliate.
Linda you have a good point there.
avivadirectory.com does not disallow their affiliate script in robots.txt so their are funelling PR from other Websites to their domain and they are doing a 301 redirect for the script that brings all PR to their domain...
Linda good forensic work!
They are going to the hall of fame on PHSDL
Hi Igor,
I was not aware of that, very tricky techies!
Linda being that you like to hear it from Matt Cutts, I found his words!
Quoting Matt Cutts, "For example, you could make a paid link go through a redirect where the redirect url is robot’ed out using robots.txt"
https://www.mattcutts.com/blog/hidden-links/
So any directory that uses a 301 redirect script for their affiliate program and not disallowing the redirect script in robots.txt is violating Google Quality Guidelines.
I do not want to be mentioning names here...but if you going to pay money to be listed in a directory make sure they are Kosher with Google.
Igor, you are comparing apples with oranges.
The phrase you quoted refers to buying links, not using affiliate links.
Matt meant that you need to remove any traces of paid links, if you buy them. It makes the work easier for Google to disregard paid links.
Of course, it goes against common sense and Google Guidelines that you need to do something just for a search engine.
How affiliate links work is the sole responsibility of the main website.
Hi Linda
Generally agreed with point.3, but then again this depends who developed the directory. A good site architect will be able to get the deep pages crawled and indexed with no problem at all. As I had mentioned above this works synergistically with the entire development, i.e. content, url naming, and navigation.
Unfortunately, a lot of directory owners do not have any real experience in web development field let alone the SEO field. A lot of them believe that simply buying a script and throwing it up online with a ton of weak links will do the trick.
So Vinnie what would be the right way of doing deep crawl optimization?
It's often the case when you submit extra links that they will appear on their own "detail" pages. The detail pages that hold your links either don't get spidered or end up in supplemental. So there may be a difference between a regular listing at say $24.99 and 5 additional deep links for $34.99. Wow 5 more links for an extra $10 right? Not always.
Examples:
https://www.octopedia.com/links/detail/site75.html
Submitted Jan '05
site:https://www.octopedia.com/links/detail/site75.html = not spidered
https://www.avivadirectory.com/detail/link-425.html
Submitted April 2006
site:https://www.avivadirectory.com/detail/link-425.html = not spidered
https://www.worldsiteindex.com/wdird635235269
Submitted January 2007
site:https://www.worldsiteindex.com/wdird635235269 = not spidered
The exceptions are when the deep links appear on regular listing pages, not on a separate page:
https://www.abilogic.com/dir/Business/Law/
https://www.webotopia.org/business/real-estate/
Microsoft's Small Business Directory USED to be awesome for this too but they took it down (hmph!)
But pay attention to how many pages of results there are. How do you know if your site won't end up on page 9? You can buy a premium listing but this is often a recurring annual payment.
There are definitely deep link directories that are good, I'm talking about regular submissions that try to upsell you. My favorite deep link directory is Deeply Linked, and they have a thorough editorial process ;-)
Linda - I'd love to hear your take on wordpress theme sponsoring. Maybe a YOUmoz post? :)
Well Matt Cutts says it better than I can :-) https://www.mattcutts.com/blog/by-the-way-2/
Also: https://weblogtoolscollection.com/arc...nsored-themes/
What's funny is, I posted these links in a thread over at DP forums where the thread starter was trying to sell sponsorship to a very 90's looking wordpress theme for $40. I was just warning the community that it probably won't do any good SEO-wise, although you *might* get some traffic.
The thread starter PM'ed me and asked me to take down my post because "It's very BAD for my auction!"
I told him that he shouldn't take advantage of the ignorant and he said "yeah but there are so many people doing it, why are you picking on ME?"
*sigh.*
That perfectly mirrors my experience at DP lately... It's a bit of a sad state of affairs.
Linda, the supplemental results check is a GREAT idea. Thanks!
Not all the directories with deep links actually send users (and lose SEs) on the way to another page, Linda. Take some time to research them and you will find some that include the deep links below the main listing. If these listings are on a top level category page, they are very worthwhile IMO.
I've submited my personal website to some free link directories ( around 5 or 6 ) and I noticed a couple of things
+ Yahoo! started crawling my website from much more IP's then before ( I think Yahoo! sent out the whole bot army to ) . . . and that's all on the positive side
- Hits from spammy website went up three times more than before, so I had to do some research what IP range, referral etc. to block ( now I'm doing fine with this )
? The visit count didn't move up, I think the count went down a bit. I didn't have some analytics tool running on the website before so I can't tell exactly if this was affected by these directory submissions, but i noticed a downfall after I did so . . . that's why I think it must have been the directories. Maybe I submited to the wrong ones.
Now that I saw the effect, I have to say I'm lucky that I didn't submit company sites to such directories.
Speaking of general directories... what ever happened to the one owned by SEOmoz?
Aviva is now ranking at ~170 for Information Web Directory.
Rand briefly mentioned those lists of directories, and I'd like to add that if you're going to use such lists, please don't take their word for anything. Check out each and every directory, and don't use some automated submission software.
I run a niche directory and it's listed on a few of those handy-dandy lists of directories. As a result, I get about 300 submissions a week on average, and only about one percent of those are in the niche the directory is about. It's clear that the vast majority of the submissions are automated, and there's just no point to it.
Ohhh! A Homer cameo! This is my favorite "Whiteboard Friday" video to date!
"Ya right. Like some Magical Directory can create all those magical Links"
"Lisa, get in here...In this house, we obey the laws of directory link building!"
Wow, Lisa built a perpetual link machine?
When looking to build links through directories you should (a) look for placement on pages and sites that are relevant to yours and (b) look at page links (backlinks to an individual page) for where you expect to get listed.
It also makes a difference how far down your ad will appear in the directory's category structure (the closest to the homepage the better). From what I've seen both Yahoo dir and betw have little to no page links on listing pages.
I haven't studied the history of web directories but I believe their proliferation is a result of starting as free directories - so they basically swap links with you, build lots of inbound links and PR (as randfish mentions in the video) and make it attractive for SEO people to buy paid placement. They are also the easiest and most immediate form of link building out there.
Some pluses directories have is that they let you hang out on the same page with other sites that are probably very relevant to yours and you get some editorial control over your listing which you should take advantage of.
Then you have the issue of where the editors of the directory choose a different category for you, or otherwise you find your listing on a page that is not indexed or 0 PR. I've actually done link building work just to get directory pages indexed that had a client listing on it, for the Best of the Web directory because it IS a strong directory, but the Alphabetical pages don't always get noticed :-(
Usually actual listing pages don't have external links pointing to them, I wouldn't think...
I don't believe this applies much to the US market any more, but there is still value in some of the local directories throughout Europe and Australasia since there hasn't been a huge mass of rubbish directories created here.
In some instances some of these local directories are almost considered niche still and from my experience they can actually drive traffic to your site which is far more important than assisting in improving your PR.
It's really tough to find good local directories for Canada, you Americans have so many more... :-(
When we speak Googlebot listens.
These pay for inclusion junk directories exploit the ignorance of site owners and should be exposed for what they are. Google did not get to where they are today by being stupid and to give any significant weight to sites listed in these site promotion directories would be exactly that stupid. Basicly they are links for sale pretending to be directories. Keep up the good work.
Could we have a new WBF on the subject of 'Directory Submissions'?
A number of the issues mentioned here seem to be covered with the relatively new OSE, PA, mR and mT.
If this is so perhaps we could have an update?
I do appreciate everyone at Seomoz is extremely busy on their Project Roadmap, developing a lot of great gadgets, etc., but perhaps this could be put on the agenda?
Just beginning SEO, so this was good information. It will keep me from making some mistakes.
Thanks!
Rand,
You are absolutely correct! Global general directories have little if any value to anyone. With so much misinformation out there, there will unfortunately be more poor souls buying directory links and ten times as many creating more link directories.
Here's the truth of the matter ... link directories have a flawed and unsustainable business and revenue model. I've being an advocate of creating legitimate "business directories" for long time. This includes creating verticals that support niches and industries by providing a vast array of product and services - the "business directory" being a small part of it.
I've written about this on my blog a few months back in a post titled:
Directory Owners … Incredibly Bright People, Doing Incredibly Stupid things!
cheers
Question that I'd love some feedback on.
Everyone always views directories as an easy way to get a link, so there's lots of talk about whether or not a directory is SEO friendly or not. But what about directories for the sake of traffic rather than for the sake of giving everyone a link?
For example, check out www.marketingtool.com/channel/webfirm/b.435.g.22.html (I'm not affiliated with this site in any way, just noticed it as an example). This directory uses a redirect for any outbound links. It does this in order to better pass link juice within the site so that it ranks higher in the SERPs (top 10 on almost every city/state web design search). The higher rankings then, in turn, lead to more traffic to listing company's websites.
So although the directory isn't SEO friendly, it's actually more effective that way.
Anyone have any thoughts on directories using redirects in this way? Good? Bad?
Business.com is an example of a site that uses redirects but can send you qualified traffic. So absolutely, they exist, especially good niche directories. You'll have to use your judgement as to whether you think each directory will send you enough leads to justify the price. Also make sure you're tracking with Anallytics and then work out your average cost per click or cost per conversion and compare it to other forms of advertising.
Todd, there is nothing wrong with paying a directory for traffic vs. link juice that is how it should be done in the first place.
Just make sure the directory adheres to Google Quality Guidelines, or any money that you are paying them will be thrown down the drain on the next Googlebot algorithm update.
If a directory using a 302 redirect script for their client links it must disallow the script in its robots.txt or it is claiming to be the author of the link page it is redirecting to and what ever PR it garnishes it keeps for itself illegally.
The directory that you have just mentioned to us, does not adhere to GqG; hence, I would avoid it.
Igor The Troll
oh dude ! you broke my heart but opened my mind
I was of the same openian like the model person in the video
now I need to develope a quaity directory rather than a PR directory
but do you understand people buy links based on the PR of the directory rather than the quality.
your PS was one benchmarking tool but too bad it isn't functionening all the time.
any way another nice white board
Rand, why not do a more in-depth review of some other directories?
Ah, this is quite useful. I was under the impression that directories were the way to go to get links! Link to all the directories! But apparently not...
I know Google itself recommends dmoz though, so at least that's a worthwhile one to try to get into.
Overall, good info to know.
Jeff has only very recently changed the page title tag for Aviva and he has done very little in terms of search engine optimisation up untill now, I am not too sure why the directory does not rank very well on Google but I have a feeling Google will start ranking the directory where it deserves to be soon a long with a couple of his other directories. Aviva Directory has got lot's of natural links and has hit the 1st page of Digg several times, regardless of where it ranks in google it certainly has link value in terms of gaining exposure and traffic for your website. The list of directories that you have provided is limited to say the least.
Hitting Digg Page #1 has nothing to do with SE rankings.
All of the natural links that you get can have a huge impact on your rankings and I wasn't talking about rankings.
Amit - from our testing, the average story to hit the Digg homepage results in the domain that website is on gaining 1000+ new inbound links over the next 3 weeks - to me, that's very good evidence that Digg has a strong, though indirect, influence on the potential to earn high rankings.
Iv'e just had my 1st real result this week indirectly, a guy contacted me the other week with a blog asking me to help him with SEO, Mike from www.environmentalgraffiti.com it's just a blog and not a big money maker or anything, I said look you don't need SEO, I gave him a few pointers telling him to come up with really contreversial posts and stuff, last night he rung me up to thank me, he's had a 1st page of reddit and Digg in two days, whilst he was on the phone to me he got 5 links.
I do think there are definitely some peaches on the directory list you have come up with Rand and I will be refering to it in the future, it's just because I use directories all of the time and test the link value, I could come up with a lot more. Aviva should definitely be on there, if you look at the directory all of the categories are well organised, he has added lot's of websites for free, you can find exactly what you are looking for 9 times out of 10 and all of the listed websites are good quality. I think that if a directory ranks well on Google it is a good sign but it is the quality of the sites it links to that determins the link value, along with domain age and the amount of editorial votes the directory has recieved. G will start showing it some SERP love soon.
It's probably so popular because it's in 50% of the signature links at DigitalPoint?
You could be onto something there.
It's probably so popular because it's in 50% of the signature links at DigitalPoint?
SiteMost great point.
Vere are a few good directories left, but very few.
I would rather be in a all free directory with no rel="nofollow" then waste my time with all the rubish out there.
It is had to find them, but if one looks around it is worth the link.
Some are receprical some are just one way to you...
But the ones you pay to play too many dirty games, so you get a link from bad neighborhood.
Thanks Igor... I agree
And to your comment about "nofollow".. sometimes it doesn't always mean "nofollow".
I recently read that some wikipedia pages (which all use "nofollow" on their links) have their content syndicated on other sites that still pass link juice - so if you go with the approach of driving traffic and not focus on the links, sometimes you can be pleasantly surprised by the results.
Interesting.
Hey Rand thanks for adding this insightful list of things to look for.
Curious as to your thoughts about bidding directories like cdhnow.com. Also, do you think there is inherently more value in directories that allow for deep links to be added to the same listing, all other things being "kosher?"
Hey Chris! Great to see you :)
I haven't checked out cdhnow.com, but I'll take a run at it - as for deep linking, it makes good sense from a relevancy perspective, right? Sometimes a page, not a website, is going to be most relevant/valuable to a specific category. Thus my vote is always going to be for whatever makes the directory's pages "best" from a value perspective, and I think deep linking falls under that.
I didn't know this was still an issue. :)
I guess all newbies jump on the directory bandwagon (I did also).
My question is, aside from being ripped off for the submission fees, do many of the general ones actually hurt ranking / trust? Or just, wasted time and money.
Brian - I seriously doubt there's any harm you can cause, it's just that there's a better use for your 10 minutes and $20. :)
" Brian - I seriously doubt there's any harm you can cause,"
Even if you submit to "5 million SEs and directories" :P and your site is new (no backlinks yet)?
I keep on reading this on seo blogs.
If you've got a brand new site, you're in a very different position - the engines are judging your trustworthiness and if the first few hundred or thousand links you acquire are from obvious, "SEO" type sources, your chances of standing out from the crowd aren't good.
Rand iam confused about the anonymous thumbs down of 10 i recieeved today :) and specially in this thread for no reason.
I just expected your reply regarding the post i made in the other thread yesterday and got many negative rewards for a question :)
Amit - The thumbs aren't controlled here at SEOmoz - we just show what our users vote. I suspect they're thumbing down because they feel you're trying to market via the comments, which people have generally voted against.
Regarding your directory - I mentioned that we'd look at it; not sure what other response you were hoping to get.
In the above update in this main post you can find the serps of my directory when you are hunting for other directory ;)
Anyway you are free to delete my posts if you feel i was trying to market :) because if this is marketing then every forum poster in the world posts for marketing.
I just asked you some updates from your side being a expert regarding what iam missing and i need to improve for my web directory.
Sheesh! Amit quit while you are ahead my friend!
I "smiled" at Michael ******* yesterday and got my first Thumbs down! Sod it! Won't be doing that again :)
That's just wrong - Michael's a very valuable contributor here and no one should be thumbing down just because you support his position. Here's a retroactive thumbs up from me to make up for that.
Nice one Rand - guess it wasn't you then!
Cheers!
One from me too!
I want to be like Rand.
1 each to continue the lovin'.
I'm in too, this is like siskel and ebert, 2 thumbs up guys.
Amit, if you have a specific question about your site that you'd like us to answer, you should submit it through the Premium Q&A feature.
nice post though. i hate submitting to directories and you just made my job harder in that aspect (extra research required). unless i can convince my boss to fork over some dough for a premium membership. i'd love to get my paws on that list!
Looks like you were able to get your boss to fork after all!
Thanks Rand, good information. SEO is a permanent changing field and mass Directory Submission worked once... doesn't work any more. Now we have to be really careful with the Directories we submit to if we don't want to waste our money. By the way great scott, the music is just fine.
Rand good heads up on directories.
I personally stopped bothering with them years ago. Now they come around and index my business site.
Whichever directories I submited years ago are mostly dead now days. Also the PR passed to my site is probably mininimal at best.
ODP is still good but would be hard to get in.
IMAO, there are so many ways to get inbond links that directories ar last on my mind.
My PR 3 Website passes more PR to my PR 4 Website than any of the directories that PR 4 Website is in.
The magic touch is to build some origional Web properties and guide the bots around them...but the linkage must be with respect not all link to all...its like your Webpage internal linkage structure...you have to have some natuaral links...not just menu driven links.
Amit that is why I do not disallow the user profiles in the forum..only the zero poster profiles are noindex, follow meta...
Let the bots explore...they are spiders and like to crawl new paths...
Wow, way of topic..I have to learn how to shut up. :)
Good post.
I bet we see folks from the Aviva Directory coming here to comment soon :)
Kurt - I've actually already spent some time emailing with Jeff from Aviva :) Not sure if he's going to comment here, though.
Rand you really stuck it to Aviva. After such a public dissertation of his site it would be nice to hear from him.
I happen to agree with most of Rand's points, but It would be very helpful for a 2 sided discussion of SEO directories in this community.
Thanks for the post Rand. This is something that I discuss in detail with my clients. I have tried explaining to them all directories are not created equal. Now I have an authoritative source other than myself to send them to. I have heard a rumor that you will be coming to Portland next March to take part in SearchFest 2008.
I look forward to seeing you there.
Good stuff Rand but i'm disappointed in the change in music genre! Those classic intro tunes are missed....
So i've had to start a Friday Rock post on my blog https://www.justinhayward.net/2007/07/20/47/
Keep rocking the free world!
My music library is vast and ecclectic and, while I often go 80's for kitsch factor (and because I friggin' love 80's music), I reserve the right to use music from the last 20 years. ;)
"Friday" by Goldspot. WHY DO YOU MAKE ME BEG?
w00t! Was just thinking you should have a Whiteboard Friday Soundtrack for release but then realized at 52 videopodcasts per year that's more like a boxed set.
You're not the first person to suggest it. I may have to create an iTunes playlist (despite my deep disdain for iTunes and their fascist DRM).
If you need more 80s kitsch, I recommend this playlist.
It's so cheesy, I'm embarrassed to have it appear on my last.fm profile!
You get my thumbs up for "Stars in their Eyes"... not my usual taste, but it has some good memories for me :)
Finally! Some quality music as well as sound advice!
Shaun
In the last thread i did show rand some information on my directory but didnt get a reply from him regarding this directory list.