Link building sucks. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. It can be slow, tedious, and exhausting. It's also one of the most crucial aspects of complete search engine optimization. So what do you do when faced with the intimidating challenge of building links? Once upon a time, you could've just submitted your site to a few hundred cheap directories (or a few thousand like so many of the $99 "SEO" shops offer), arrange for a few dozen reciprocal links from sites with decent PageRank, and maybe even negotiate a nice, keyword-targeted footer link from a reasonably popular blog. Bing-bang-boom, you've got several hundred good links with super-optimized anchor text...hellooooo rankings!
Those of you who've been playing this game for a while are probably thinking, "ahh, 2004, those were the days!" Everyone else is either looking at the screen incredulously or laughing hysterically, "this stuff doesn't work at all anymore!" Oh really? Doesn't it? Sitewide, Reciprocal, and Directory links often have a bad rap because in the last several years they've largely become synonymous with cheap, spammy, dishonest, and largely useless scam SEO offers. But here's the catch: if you're careful, reasonable, and practical, these oft-maligned practices can still be effective. Don't go screaming black hat on me, watch this week's video to learn the how, when, and why of what can make these black sheep of the link building world viable tactics.
As discussed in the video there are times when these strategies can be legitimate. Rand covered these in a lot of detail in our recent PRO Webinar on Advanced Competitive Link Building, so if you're a PRO Member, be sure to watch the recording. For now, let's look at some situations where these strategies can still work.
Sitewide Links The early oughties (aka 2000's) were the like Studio 54 for sitewide links: shady links were snorting coke off of hookers in the dark recesses of footer navigation across the web. Then Google raided the joint looking for manipulative link patterns like the IRS looking for cooked books--the jig was up for footer and sidebar sitewide nav links. To this day you can occasionally stumble across a rogue footer containing a few links out to ridiculously unrelated content (one local theater here in Seattle has links out to branded baby care products), but by-and-large this practice is no longer used...except for when it is. Does Disney link to other sites in its content network? Does Lulu link to their SEOmoz and PC magazine awards? Does SEOmoz link to service partners like Distilled and Exact Target? Yes, they/we do and we do so in sitewide footers. These are legitimate and natural relationships. There's nothing strange or fishy here. In fact, if any of these links were paid, they'd be better off on one or two strong pages rather than on a sitewide navigational element. Basically, you should consider these bad if/when they seem unnatural and/or they're done alongside other shady stuff.
Reciprocal Links First things first: within niche industries, natural reciprocal links are completely natural. In fact they're often difficult to avoid. Think about the SEO space; SEOmoz, SEOBook, Search Engine Land, Search Engine Journal, and all the others...we're constantly linking to each other, but do we ever call up Aaron or Loren or Matt and say, "hey, I'll link to your page if you link back to mine with this exact anchor text"? No, that'd be ridiculous. 'Reciprocal' becomes a four-letter word when it becomes clear that your site has an unusually high proportion of 1-to-1 links (you and other sites link to each other only once), often with suspiciously consistent anchor text. Those are the phenomena that start to look shady and draw attention.
Directory Links Here's the litmus test for a directory: Do they care who you are? Good directories endeavor to actually create a high-value resource by exercising editorial control and restricting listings to sites and businesses that will be of value to their users. Bad directories endeavor to maximize the number of people willing to pay them money to be listed next to Der International Haus of Spamcakes because, hey, it's a PR3 link! It's really that simple. Directory links of the good variety can be really solid link sources (they're often niche or local), but the bad kind (of which you can probably find 20,000 for $99) ain't gonna do a damn bit of good for you.
When it comes down to it, you simply need to use good judgement with your link efforts. Is this a link someone would not be surprised to find on this site and in this location? Is the link from a site you could or would legitimately link to in a blog post? Would your site or page be a good resource for someone visiting a particularly directory? What about the rest of the content and links, do they seem legitimate? A little honest evaluation and some common sense is really all you need to avoid engaging in bad linking practices.
Perfect timing for this post, this is why I love SEOMOZ. I was pulling my hair out today analyzing the links of the competition.
Yes, it is nice to be natural and all that. I feel better when I go to sleep "geez, I was a good guy today". This is how the web should be. Isn't it nice? But its wroooong! (if you want to rank TODAY) :)
When competition ranks #1 with hundreds of free junky directory links and reciprocal link shite farms while you try to stay natural and rank on page 2, all this love for natural and decent link building starts to fade.
Unfortunately, the spammy stuff still works damn good.
1. FREE DIRECTORIES: there are so many free general directories that pass a lot of value. I wish they didn't, but open site explorer says they do. Competition has perfect anchor text from such crap piles and the page authority of the page with the incoming link are really nice for some of them.
C'mon guys, these should be banned instantly. They even have ridiculous domain names like: fastlinks, seo-friendly-directory, seo-friend, seo-links and so on. I can't believe we discuss about serious editorial links, big G is all about the user, while these crap piles continue to exist, pass value and even produce nice money from the horde of seos that waste their time and clients budget poluting the web with such things.
2. "ARTICLE" DIRECTORIES: another embarassing "link building" method that drives me crazy. What are article directories? They are collections of crap articles nobody reads, posted by seos trying to get a nice juicy link in the poor footer of the article. Some are computer generated or refurbished. You should read some of them. This is the new fun.
3. RECIPROCAL LINK FARMS: I hate these ones the most. They are collections of hundreds of ridiculous links to all the topics you can ever imagine. On a law related website you get to see links to baby diapers shops or to exotic pet websites. They are all nicely "sorted" on links page 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 etc. Some are hidden under precious terms like "resources"! LOL man, we are ruining the meaning of this nice word - "resources". Resources for who? For our stupid ridiculous link building marathon. I'm so tired. This should stop. Oh no, there is more, here's the deluxe brand new link farm presentation: "wiki"... anxietydisordersupport.net/wiki.php . "This website is featured in..." ... No sh*t??
The page authority of some of these junk collections is scary and they do work. :(
When the clients don't have the time to produce great content on a regular basis, when they don't have the time to produce link baiting beautiful pieces of content... you just have to go on building those crappy links with directories and reciprocal farms. This crap shouldn't even exist in the first place. Well, they do exist and work for the competition.
Wasn't the user important on the web? Who are the users of directories, article directories or "resource" links? (except hungry seos).
Sometimes I have this weird dream... big G hired me and I was browsing the web and banning all these piles of junk with a single click. Then I wake up and go link building like a stupid robot. Website-name-just-insert-stupid-anchor-that-makes-no-sense, website-URL, your-name-john-doe, your-spam-to-get-email, description-why-doesn't-the-browser-remember-that-too, reciprocal-url-no-thanks, website-category-huge-scrolling-annoying-list, captcha-pain-try-again-5th-time...
I'm forced to do this kind of link building now if I want my clients to rank better because ALL their competitors benefit from these ridiculous sources (value from unique linking domains, perfect anchors and number of anchors - unfortunately these are enough to make the difference). If they ever get devalued, perfecto, our editorial natural links will remain and we'll rank better anyway.
I agree we had a site that had a few decent editorial style links, but was ranking nowhere, when I used OSE on the competitors and got links from the seo-friendly.orgs that their 'seo companies' were getting them we hit no. 2 in no time
Bring on the devaluation of those links and let me spend time doing something more interesting!
How about getting some spammy links from PR 1, 2 blog and forum sites? Comments like "nice info" and "thanks for the great article" is what you need to write to get a link for your site.
Easy to get. You will rank very quickly if you can get some links from sites having page rank.
I get those dumbass "nice info" comments all the time on my blogs but:
1. Akismet is my hero.
2. Their links are nofollowed anyway. :>
But even if nofollowed makes evaporate your juice...
yeah, my son has a blog for toys (a wishlist kind of thing) whenever he gets those comments, we just edit them to say something different and remove the url.
"Thanks for taking the time to create a username on our blog - we appreciate being able to use your name for a valuable comment"
I agree. But spammy stuff gives only short term boost/benefits and one has to work a lot harder (though not smarter) to achieve desired rankings. In the long run majority of such links get devalued which bring us back to square one.
Was that a comment or a Youmoz post?
That was a kick *** comment that could and should become a full YOUmoz post.
It brings up a very real predicament in link building. Go for the pure and achieve 2nd or 3rd page rankings, or join your competitors and participate in the crap links to achieve pg 1.
Well said Rand! Thank's for sharing! I have one question. What about the sitewide footer links that are often used in the Web design field, where the designer puts a footer link back to him for every website he makes? Some times the designer overdoes it using manipulative anchor text. Nevertheless, 99% of the times these websites all belong to the same server/IP. Probably many of these links does not seem to be natural due to the completely different subjects of each website (designer site and clients sites), but there is actually a real-world relationship between those sites, plus the link has a commercial value for the designer. How does Google value those kinds of links?
A Question that come inspired by yours:
If the footer link of a web design firm is not simply linking to the homepage of the web design site, but to an internal page dedicated to the client site (how it was designed, what strategy was behind the design, what tools had been used...)... that could be thought as plain sitewide irrelevant link or something more like the Lulu link to SEOmoz and PC Magazine award?
[if the question seems 'robotic', I ask you to pardon me: still have to do breakfast ;)]
I'd love to know the answer to this too. If I have a vertical market as a designer -- say hotels or dentists or something similar -- and I want to post a unique page to promote me on all of the sites I actually run and host that (obviously) link back to the other sites I run and host, I think that is very logical and fair use. It's a star pattern of recriprical linking and (honestly) pay-for-play. If it's clearly promoted as promoted as about me (e.g., "looking for a dentist/hotel in another market, consider our other clients. If you like the sites, consider hiring us..."). Honest, editorial link content with the clear intent to have networked links, but also could be considered a bit gray-hat. Or, as I see it, exactly what companies like DexOnline are doing. -LR
On the same topic i want to know how do you see footer links in Web Hosting. We offer a lot of web hosting plans for free, and it is normal to ask one back link for this favor.
If i wach the competition i see that they use the "footer link strategy" on every page of the client web sites. Of course they have 20.000 back links and we have less...it's normal, we don't use this practice.
They rank better . How do you see it? Can i implement the "footer strategy"?
Have you thought about just linking from the client's homepage and not implementing a sitewide?
Yes i have but i have analized the situation with the seomoz tool and let me explain you what i see :
1. my competision has 134,652 links from 116 root domains
2. i have 17,324 links from 235 root domains
So that means their sitewide linking is working really fine because my domain authority is bigger, page authority is bigger.
Am i right?
I've been researching this same situation.
Sitewide links in this case don't seem to hurt. Then the issue is how do we increase their value.
:( - Only the homepage. I don't like this because you could get a lead from a user on a deep page that just liked the site or wants your hosting services.
:| - Sitewide - This won't hurt, but won't help that much either. On top of that, if you're a hosting provider, chances are that they'll be worth even less because many of your sites will be from the same IP c-block.
:) ...?- "Nofollow" on all but the home page. This makes sense. Any thoughts?
Rand, this is indeed timely and very welcome, thanks! And a great opportunity to share some further observations. I would like to add these points (and wonder if other SEOs here wouldn't mind adding their own, and disagreements are welcome too) about the finer aspects of these kinds of links.
1. Sitewide links don't pass higher PR that normal homepage link. This may have been the case some years ago, but now it's a myth. A sitewide link counts as a single link.
2. Reciprocal "deep linking" is usually better, more natural and more meaningful than interlinking the home pages (and I'm not even going to mention pages titled "Links"). I think reciprocal linking helps the most if it is from an internal page on site A to an internal page of site B and from another internal page of site B to another internal page on site B. And this can occur multiple times between two sites, which is perfectly fine if it makes human sense.
3. Links from great, genuine and relevant directories may have value that goes beyond SEO value. I would get a link from a highly relevant and respectable directory even if it had a PR of 0. (Besides, PR has a tendency to increase over time.)
So yes, these three kinds of links are far from "dead"! What we should never forget though is link profile diversity: it's hugely important. What causes devaluations and penalties is not just engaging this or that specific kind of link, but exhibiting a manipulative patter on a large scale, e.g. if 95% of your links were blogroll links (and all those blogs were interlinking into the bargain) and so on. So I've got one word for you: diversify!
Rannd, a pleasure as always! See you next Friday!
Good points Philip.
I think that directories as far as they have an understandable editorial value behind them are a good place where to place a link.
How to understand if a directory as an editorial team who really works? It can be understood simply surfing the directory itself. The ones that autogenerate without an human control usually are filled with websites in the wrong categories, with a description text that even a baby child could write better and that, apart the directory itself, doesn't offer any other editorial advantage to a potential users.
And if you read in the homepage: "Wellcome to your gold opportunity to increase the pagerank of your site...", run away.
Finally... what about the Blogroll links? Don't you think they are an overly abused kind of links?
Hiya, thanks for your reponse.
Blogroll: it all depends. I like a blogroll link on an authroty blog, it can contribute to the status of a website and bring relevant traffic. A lot of blogroll links on fake / trashy blogs are a bad idea. Basically, it's a great rule of thumb for SEO: anything trashy is a bad idea!
Philip,
I think you bring a very important point to this discussion - "exhibiting a manipulative pattern". I don't think a bad reciprocal link here or there is going to do much, but exhibiting pattern throughout your site will definitely get you into loads of trouble...
Great comments!
Kevin
Hi, Kev! Right, intelligent and natural reciprocal linking is just fine, IMHO, and I don't believe Google has devalued it. It still has SEO value. But if the vast majority of your links come from link exchanges, then that must look very unnatural to Goog.
Clearly, the # of links from unique domains is a much more important factor today than in the past, when 10 links = 10x the juice, and hence the infestation of the spammy site-wide link.
Anyone have any metrics on how much effect additional links from the same site have (not necessarily site-wide)? Is it 1/10th additional value? Or does it merely contribute to the anchor text profile as a completely separate ranking factor?
So what you are saying is that if you are added to a blogroll you wouldn't get linkjuice from all 500 posts on the blog, you would just get linkjuice from 1 of the pages and 0 linkjuice from the other 499. However other people are saying that you get a reduced amount of linkjuice from multiple pages.I wonder who is right.
I wrote an answer on this very topic - well, on paid links over at Kim's cre8asite forum....
Link to same is here -- https://www.cre8asiteforums.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=76703
And it's so nice to see that my own thoughts are in alignment with Rands position too on the 'paid' link hypothesis....
:-)Jim
Nice to "overlap" here, Jim, and your cre8asite post is right on the $$.
So although directory links may be devalued in the future, there is clearly value in them at the moment.
Surely any link, whether it's crap or not is better than no link at all. If it works today then go with it. We're not living in some sort of Google Utopia yet and being pragmatic has to take presedence.
Well... as also seo-himanshu wrote up before, those links are not that useful on the mid-long term.
I could understand their use just as an extreme measure on the very short term, in order to start creating a link profile for a website that has no inlinks... but just to substain the website since while you finally create a more valuable inbound links profile.
Agreed. But it is such an easy task, and so inexpensive to do that it simply remains a "go to" method for many people - especially for those working in very niche areas of SEM.
Long term, yes, you are entriely right that it isn't going to propell a site to anything more than a bottom of the barrel scraper - apart from perhaps a handful of quality directories perhaps.
Unless every link you have is spammy and obvious, it is rare that a single "bad" link (or even dozens of "bad" links) will ever hurt you.
Otherwise, it would be too easy for us to bury our competitors by submitting them to tons of directories, putting a site-wide link to their website in our splog farms, etc
So therefore, if a majority of your inbound links are natural or otherwise above board, and you can get a directory link for free - take it.
Based on my research, a site-wide link is a matter of diminishing returns.
So, the first link has the same weight as one link. But then every subsequent link Google finds within the same site is valued at half (or some fraction) of the previous one.
Eventually, every additional link is only a small fraction of what one original link would be - but the sheer mass of them can carry some weight.
If a site is linking to you, like on a page in the content and you are linking back to them some place on your site for some reason (like in your blog post, something came up that you referenced), do you lose any ranking quality you are receiving from their link for the anchor text?
I think it's fine if this happens once or a handful for times. But if this is the main pattern of your interlinking with other wites, it may well raise a red flag.
Firstly, great WBF Rand & Scott. Linking can never be expounded upon too much as far as I'm concerned. I consider it by far on of the more onerous tasks of SEO and every small tip and hint is appreciated.
To comment on the comments, I agree with all those above that say that its an unfortunate necessity to use the crappier link sources to give an under performing website an initial boost in the rankings.
It's important to keep in mind though that sooner or later (think May Day Update) Google will come up with an algo tweak to devalue them.
So the best strategy is to simultaneously be working on getting rock solid links that will keep and even increase in value in time.
Eventually you won't need the crappy links.
You seems my "american twin"... at least in the way of thinking.
I'd say that maybe we were separated at birth and my mother adopted me, but with 11 children, chances are nill that she would have wanted more.
So maybe she had another kid (you) and your Mom adopted you!
Brother!
Sometimes reassuring post or WBF like this one are needed. Infact, the fear of incurring into the Google spam-hammer can paralize and makes you loose what could be valuable inlinks.
What I like the most - apart the practical suggestions - is the concept behind all of this WBF: in the middle there's the right way to do things.
And it's not a matter of being "moderate", just a question of being Conscious of what you are doing and be able to balance the positive and negative factor of an action you're going to make.
Interesting about directory links, what about sites link www.city-visitor.com yell.com and yahoo directory?
These are paid listing directories but do they care who you are? or are they just interested in the money?
Yahoo for example, cares. It has just listed one of our clients and declined another one.
So the goal is natural links, which are achieved by great content. Is there another way to build links?
Nope, no other way! ;)
Well, you could try this resource.
Keep your links like your equity, the more diversified your are the better off you will be, Use common sense when building linking.
Just to note on what you said on link building, indeed as tedious as it can be if it`s not fresh content to write about, it`s a key factor and definitely helps. Something to be said about being inventive and "pushing" your company, too wordy and it bores but there`s a skill to getting just the right information in.
What about site wide links for web design companies. I.e. Web Design by Brand Name. Web design is the anchor text. Obvious manipulation of anchor text, but I'm pretty sure I've seen it work.
Copy that question. I see people above have advised having link only from the homepage, OR DoFollow from HomePage and NoFollow from all other pages of the site , which one does make more sense?
Case in point is again a Web Design company building websites and asking for a link back to their site, which is legitimate. What do you suggest is a better strategy for the anchor text here:
1. Web Design by Brand Name
2. Powered by Brand Name
3. Mix of both for different client . i.e. 50% take option 1, other take option 2.
P.S. The question is considering the latest PANDA and Penguin updates.
Would appreciate if any MOZzers can help, Thanks
Krinal
Hi Rand, Late follow up question! Great examples for the "bad" stuff for Directory Listings.
However, regarding SW links are you suggesting that footer links such as those found in blogs (themes) can be problematic? Does this go the same way as with reading lists and/or blog rolls?
I understand and agree that natural, editorial, and logical linking is the way to go, but what exactly should SEOs be looking out for when it comes to SW and Reciprocal linking?
Would be great if you can share some examples!
Many Thanks!
Jurgen
Aptly put at the very begining of this post that link building is a task which is detested by all .
I am of the opinion that the term 'link building' itself is an incorrect term. Links do not have to be built but they should get built naturally in the process as your website starts getting a wider web presence and preference.
As every link is like a vote to your site and goodwill of your company and that has to be earned as part of the web journey of the website.
If we focus on the quality content, have a good site internal linking architecture, have a site which is visitor friendly as well as robot friendly then getting high SERPs is not a difficult task.
Once you have high SERPs trust me there will loads of directories and portals adding your site in their listings even without you knowing about it, as they too are looking for quality listings.
Once upon a time the dmoz listing was something that you always wished for once you submitted your site in dmoz as that surely was a valuable link. I dont know if it still has that importance but I still manually add each site to dmoz.
Apart from a good qualitative site in all respects other genuine methods of gaining natural inbound links as your website goes from one milestone to another are as follows:
Focus all your efforts on making the site informative, qualitative and content rich to get links automatically.·
Do not neglect the On-Page Optimization Basics and just go after links. (Very important from the SEO perspective)·
Participate in social media networks for discussions and sharing of information and mention links to the relevant pages to your website. (It need not be the Home Page always)·
Have a social book marking button on your website.
Make RSS feeds available on your website.
Issue Press Releases periodically.
Nice post, Webpro, but I disagree with a couple of things.
"If we focus on the quality content, have a good site internal linking architecture, have a site which is visitor friendly as well as robot friendly then getting high SERPs is not a difficult task." That would be nice, would it not? In fact, this is almost entirely false. "Quality content" and on-site optimization by themselves will get you nowhere in the SERPs for any search terms that are remotely competitive. It's true that when you are on page 1 and climbing your ability to attract natural links rises exponentially, but you need links in the first place to get there.
Sometimes you can promote your content to a broad audience and gain natural links. However, "good content" does absolutely nothing to help achieve that. If you want to dominate the SERPs the shiny "white hat" way, "good content" is a bad idea: you need content that is by an order of magnitude better than anything else found on the Web on your topic.
So I thought I'd quibble a bit here. :)
Thanks Philip I totally agree that getting the initial SERPs is a challenge especially when the keywords are highly competitive but that is exactly where the patience and the perseverence required in an SEO is tested.
The focus at such times should be on long tail keywords to get the initial SERPs and traffic and the client should be educated about the competitiveness of the keyword and made aware that those rankings will take time.
As we all keep on saying that SEO is no magic wand and as in real life it takes time to establish a business and goodwill, similarly it takes time on the web too for your website to establish itself.
And now with so many varied search options on the Google home page like blogs, videos, updates, images etc. the targeted traffic can be aimed at . Eventually the client is interested in targeted visitors to his site from what option they come from it does not matter initially.
And in due time by then the organic listings - SERPs also improve i.e let us say 4-5 months .
That is why we say that the SEO strategy and planning will vary from site to site and depending on the competitiveness of the keyword.
At the very first go when the whloe SEO plan is worked out the client should know what results to expect at what stage.
Well, thats what my experience says.
Interesting post. Like some others here I find that my competitors links are coming 90%-95% of the time from crappy, mostly paid or reciprocal directories. Just paying the fees to join all those directories has to have cost them $3000-$4000 - and then you have to pay someone to submit to all those on top of that. I once tortured myself by going through their backlinks one by one, classifying them by PR, type, and cost. So trust me, I'm not making this up! BUT at least our (mostly) white hat approach is paying off now, with ranking improvement on a number of varied keywords recently.
The other thing with directories is that lots of legit link building/link finding tools (ontolo's, SEOMoz's Link Acquisition Assistant) draw heavily on directory-oriented queries. I know we must use our own judgment on what is valuable and what is not, but it's nice to see somebody talk about their directory technique, instead of just bashing them.
So now we come to ...ARTICLE SPINNING. Article spinning seems to be on the whole a bit more respected though. In terms of racking up quantity links is this something you would recommend, or at least, recommend over low-quality massive directory submission? My feeling is that Google will probably never penalize article directory backlinks, but can and will penalize directory backlinks. Article spinning is INNNNCREDDDIBLY unenjoyable but heck, even Ian Lurie apparently does it (see his post What Real SEOs do").
Its not the link building that sucks....its selling clients on investing in content or that it is okay to talk about something besides sales.
Why is it that almost every professional ten years ago would spend 8k a month on yellow pages if they could, but today we have to pull teeth to get a similar commitment.
Great video, as usual.
AH! So true... the fact is that the Web Marketing is something that can be done by every kid who know how Facebook works and is able to use a Joomla, and I'm using Adwords on my own quite succesfully way of thinking is very hard to fight, especially in the small business CEO/Owners.
That's a really great point SOS. Most businesses would plunk down thousands upon thousands on local listings in the Yellow Pages. They didn't like spending the dough but it was necessary to obtain business.
Fast forward to today and it's like pulling teeth to get them to commit to budgeting 5K for web development.
[note to self - Start dressing like a Yellow Pages sales rep to sub-consciously sway my prospects to loosen the purse strings]
And don't forget to cut your hairs as them... plain to one side... And always smile (possibly with a shining white dentature) ;)
Hey G. Happy to see someone else here on a Saturday.
What is the case in Italy and Spain re: Yellow Pages? Were they once used by all small businesses but now not as much?
In Italy the Yellow Page listings are still a resource for small business, due to their radication and because they provide an expressed edition almost for any province of Italy (Italy is structured in Regions and Provinces). But also their online version is very important... also because they were not so honestly playing with the concept of SEO and rankings with their clients. I mean: they usually contact their huge dbase of client and propose them to create a profile (quite good) and they will be able to rank it for X keywords in the first page of Google. Usually they succeed obtaining the objective... but then those same small business call me and say this to me: "I'd love to see my website above my Yellow Page profile"....
In Spain is different, as the Yellow Pages have less importance somehow (more competitors in the market) and their online version is not having the same success of the italian one.
I've just finished watching Rand's video for the 3rd time and I have a question: what exactly means a "manipulative anchor text"?Usually editorial links have the domain name or other general terms like "click here" as the anchor text. Is a lovely juicy sequence of 2-3 keywords we want to rank for - manipulative?
Some of our competitors for different clients rank #1 with many such anchors like "keyword1 keyword2" coming from crap free directories, article directories or reciprocal link farms.
People will rarely if ever link to you naturally/editorial with the keyword sequence you want to rank for because most of the time it comes unnatural to place the link on those words.
In a directory or an author box, I think it is perfectly valid to have keywords in the anchor text.
In a supposedly editorially driven blog entry it might be suspicious to see manipulative language like this:
"So my buddy Greg just went Mountain Biking in Belize, you should check out his travels on his Buy Cheap Viagra blog".
The same would hold true for site-wide links (footers, blog rolls, etc).
damn, that link just goes back to the blog page...i was really interested to learn more about his adventures in Belize!
Whoa! Vinny, I practically fell outta my chair! You're alive!
There is a rule of thumb that I like to use. If you can do it manually, than it's ok. Try living in a small country, where getting "regular", "natural" and "contextual" link aqusition is just impossible. There are 2 websites on the same niche, both probably from your competitor.
Sorry, there's nothing else to do sometimes, than to get the "spammy" links.
And btw, you forgot about all the "social media" links, the "access your bookmarks from any computer" and the "we are Facebook #2# webpages, where you can get those links.
You get all the good links that you can, and then... well, there's not other option.
I just feel most of the SEO world tries to be too nice in the public going "NO, never, directory or sidewide links", but at the end of the day, we get those links.
Right?
Thanks for the post.
FYI... your Delve video player is missing time markers. You should update your delve player template to include time markers (at least video length & current position... bonus points for seek position)
I fund the directory part very helpful. Thank you.
Good basic link building roundup.
Well if it's any consolation to any of you, I look like a complete jackass in one of my niches. There's a domain that ranks on the first page of Google very consistently (but unstable) over the last 18 months. It's a splog used by one of my competitors. It pulls all kinds of incoherent crap from every corner of the internet, all jumbled together in a way that you couldn't piece together with the best decoder ring.
In an act of cruel irony, this splog outranks us both, including 90% of our competition. A completely worthless site, 100% automated content, 100% automated links.
I've reported it 5 times in 18 months. Nothing.
(And yes, this is indicative of the rest of the 1st page results. Blackhat owns this niche, and sometimes I wish I hadn't signed that contract.)
Rand, what about blog networks that all interlink their posts across different domains. Take engadget for example or thefrisky.com, or bellasugar.com? Those links seem to be particularly effective in helping each article rank well for its title. Google seems to reward this behavior. What are your thoughts?
This was a great post. Put some thought into where you want to build links. Target the local high traffic directories and forums.
Someone made a great point about the warm fuzzy feeling we get by wearing "white hats" while the competition cheats and stays ahead. The only solace in that for me is that cheating is an unsustainable SEO practice. You are going to get caught and eventually the effort put forward cheating is going to outweigh the effort of doing it more organically.
As SEOs we are all guilty of trying to game the system by building links. It's tough to make content that everyone else will link for you.
Great article BTW, even if I don't link it.
Another great WBF, thanks seomoz.
What about paid niche directories? Most of the ones that I've found that fit nicely i.e. local to our shops or to our fashion niche are charging. As soon as I see there's a cost attached I back away, but are there exceptions to the paid links are bad rule if it's very relevant?
Thanks
Hayley
Great as always - sometimes the gurus are too quick to dismiss the simple stuff but these sorts of links work great in many cases especially for small local businesses not looking to get ranked on generic head terms.
I did some reading on this topic and after checking my seo stuff for www.slotson.com I noticed that I was giving site wide links to my other sites and that updowner managed to create 10.000 BL to my site, I registered and had my listing removed there. I just want to warn you all for such kind site scrapers that can destroy rankings instantly. I wished google would deindex such sites. I think adding your site to a handful of paid directories is better than all the free ones. On the other hand I forgot the most important aspect of SEO which is branding because you NEED to have searches for your site name that people can remember. At the end of the day this can save your business having a minimum traffic for free.
Rick
If we have a the blog in a folder, but this is in another webserver with other Ip address, could be treat like sitewide links ? and having a penalty from panda ? Thanks!
Hay Rand, though this post was brilliant.
I'm coming up to a period where Links are important to me. Having a definitive understanding about these different types of links really helps understand the whole process a lot better.
Thanks
Enjoyed this post for its frankness. Just on the issue of reciprocal linking: the process of sending out mass emails to sites that are of decent PR nominally within the same industry specifying exact anchor text in exchange for the same is not something I feel is or will be rewarded by Google SERPs now and less so as the algo's and link intelligence mechanisms of the major search engines improve over time. Secondly - Directory submissions: quick, easy and.... wait a second, when was the last time you visited an online directory (in your personal, non-SEO-related capacity?) Weren't directories killed off as a meaningful species by reasonably functional search engines??
Well, there are directories and there are directories. There are certain directories that get visited quite a bit (by non SEO types), although they tend to focus on specific geographies, industries, etc. In fact, I've launched an entire business around this, although I'm only two months into the experiment so the jury is still out. But you can take a look at and cast your vote at DeclareMedia.
Great post and many thanks for the info. Going back to what was said earlier about web design firms and others putting sitewide links in the footers...
You search SEO services here in the UK and a web design company comes out in 1st. You then look at their website and they proudly announce this fact all over it (who wouldn't). Dig deeper and look at their customers websites and all have two bits of anchor text in the footer one saying 'seo services' and the other saying 'website design' both linking back to the design company home page.
As said by others, getting natural links can be hard work especially if you are selling something like rabbit hutches! of course these sites will turn to directories etc where they can easily get links albeit low quality.
Fuel for thought!
Such a great post! Thanks for going over all 3 of these areas. Especially reciprocal links.
Unfortunately we seem to be in a position where "ethical" and "honourable" no longer cut the mustard.
If I didn't buy links, then I would be hovering around the bottom of page 3. As an in house SEO part of my job is to educate my employers in the world of SEO - but I can't imagine going into work tomorrow and telling the MD that it wouldn't be ethical to purchase links/
Despite the constant preaching, not every business on the web sells rocket powered, 3D, augmented reality, Trainers with built in blue-ray and Ipad - Some spheres of business there isn't a constant stream of new content to be created. The only natural links I could get would be from my competitors!
Sometimes we have to purchase spammy links, don't get my wrong, I don't like or approve of it, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it when everyone else in my niche does it.
Word!
well, link building = spam world = sucks...
I am running a free blog hosting , I have to delete spam blog everyday and time.
nice article . btw ,i'm newbie here.i wish i can learn much here.
thanks.
It goes back to having great content on your site. This will make link building easier and you will not need as many.
Another great post Rand. Thanks for sharing your insights on Sitewide, Reciprocal, and Directory links.
IMO as long as it's natural it shouldn't hurt the rankings.
great post? maybe...
...the best single line in any post on seoMoz, or any SEO blog in history:
"shady links were snorting coke off of hookers in the dark recesses of footer navigation across the web."
aaahhhhh... those WERE the days ;-)
Glad you liked that one ;)
Scott, did you write the copy in this post ?
Yep, I write the copy of every Whiteboard Friday.
Had no idea. I always assumed the face in the video did.
Then to you I extend this compliment. This WBF copy was great. In addition to the shady coke snorting hookers line (which I am in complete agreement with MOGmartin upon) I appreciated having Rand's talking points written out.
I was able to read first, then watch and I think I comprehended more that way.
Love that quote! SEO, as a job description, has come a long way too - from trailer park to 5th avenue.
I guess all SEO challenges seem to come down to 'use your head' and act natural - don't overdo it.
Wow,that was great info on my 1st White board Friday!
It does make a lot of sense though and will make linking easier and you wont need tons of them.
Nice one! and looking forward to next Friday.
Gaurav
For link building: if it looks to good/easy to be true, it probably is
Nice post! What’s your take on blog rolls? They tend to be site-wide and often reciprocal. However, from a human standpoint they provide some context on what the blogger reads and can point you to some interesting places to often read more about the same vertical/niche/whatever.
Personally, I think blogrolls are great places to get links, particularly if the blogger is picky and only links out to places he/she reallly reads. I agree there's nothing unnatural and manipulative about them (most of the time).
Glad to know... I consider answered my question some comments above :)
Rand, nice to see this confirmed with your mileage, my own belief is the same!
great WBF Rand and thx for reinforcing best practices for directory links
I have to agree with icanhazseo: perfect timing!
I've been feeling very frustrated lately because, being new to SEO, these are the major tactics in my arsenal. (I do lean more toward white hat than black, though, if you were wondering!)
To have a bunch of industry professionals come along and tell me everything I've been doing this past year regarding link building was a complete waste is very disheartning.
So now I'm feeling better and more optimistic! Thanks so much--you've made my day!
:)
I think for blogs and reference, non-commercial content natural link building is somewhat easier. But, for commercial stuff it's harder.
For example, you create a site about...baseball video games. Who is going to naturally link to that site? Nobody. First off, if someone is going to link to a video game page, they'll google the name of the game and then end up linking to the top listings (amazon, eb games, gamespot). So that would be a natural link for them.
So, to get those kinds of links you have to rank at the top of the serps, which you can only do by getting links that look natural, but are not. Not easily done. So...what's left...article directories, comments, cheap directories.
It would seem to me that with all of the products out there the only way to really create any kind of relevant serp for a very focused niche of products is to count links from article directories, cheap directories, comments. Because otherwise no new sites are getting natural links to their product pages. Even the ones Amazon is getting are probably affiliate links (paid links) as well.
Regarding directories, I do agree that directory submissions are definitely not "black hat" (although their value is questionable...). If they were then we were all submitting our competitors' websites to directories :-)Regarding link building, I think nothing can substitutes a good public relations campaign and creating a true social buzz
I've seem similar issues with most of our clients (we build websites for financial professionals). They all want to rank #1 on google for terms like "financial advisor" and the likes.
They don't have time to write great and engaging content and are often lured by "SEO firms" to get into the paid directories/comment/link exchange with their peers. Some are even trying to outsource their link building to india or the philippines. That's pretty pathetic if you ask me!
I've been writing a blog about online marketing for financial advisors and been sharing great ideas and tips to give better directions to our clients.Thanks to SEOmoz!
One of my favorite WBFs of the year. And I love getting down and dirty in link building discussions.
Google suggests asking yourself a couple of questions to help determine what is acceptable, not only for link building but for any SEO practice:
1. "Does this help my users?
2. "Would I do this if search engines didn't exist?"
I can't view the video in Chrome, FF or IE. Is there a direct link at Vimeo available? I wasn't able to find it there either. This happens to me quite frequently :-(
Thanks, really looking forward to this one!
Kim
I doubt it, as its hosted on delve, not vimeo
You'll need Adobe Flash Player to watch this video and lots of other stuff on the interwebz.
Thanks, Scott, but I have the latest version of Flash installed. I tried the video on FF, Chrome & IE, and none work... Are some of the videos only accessible from the US? I'm in Canada... Thanks!
Great (distinctions) Scott... ;-)
Well done.
Kevin
Post good information here.
just basic information, go ahead, tell us more about linking.. Which factors are the most valuable? ;)
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This is funny... a spammy link in a WBF that talks about what links are valuable and what could be considered "spammy"
Yeah, please don't delete this one, its priceless. :D
LMAO
fine fine fine, I'll let this one stay just because you asked nicely :) And because I love your username :)
wow. thank you! :)
Hi Bryan,
You should download the SEOmoz Firefox Toolbar. It has this cool feature that lets you highlite 'nofollows'; that way you won't waste time comment spamming where it won't count.
I'm guessing he didn't spend any time on that at all. Then again, maybe he really did just want to use several direct quotes from your article in his spamment.
is it possible to change his username to irony0012?