This week, Moz released a new feature that we call Spam Score, which helps you analyze your link profile and weed out the spam (check out the blog post for more info). There have been some fantastic conversations about how it works and how it should (and shouldn't) be used, and we wanted to clarify a few things to help you all make the best use of the tool.
In today's Whiteboard Friday, Rand offers more detail on how the score is calculated, just what those spam flags are, and how we hope you'll benefit from using it.
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Video transcription
Howdy Moz fans, and welcome to another edition of Whiteboard Friday. This week, we're going to chat a little bit about Moz's Spam Score. Now I don't typically like to do Whiteboard Fridays specifically about a Moz project, especially when it's something that's in our toolset. But I'm making an exception because there have been so many questions and so much discussion around Spam Score and because I hope the methodology, the way we calculate things, the look at correlation and causation, when it comes to web spam, can be useful for everyone in the Moz community and everyone in the SEO community in addition to being helpful for understanding this specific tool and metric.
The 17-flag scoring system
I want to start by describing the 17 flag system. As you might know, Spam Score is shown as a score from 0 to 17. You either fire a flag or you don't. Those 17 flags you can see a list of them on the blog post, and we'll show that in there. Essentially, those flags correlate to the percentage of sites that we found with that count of flags, not those specific flags, just any count of those flags that were penalized or banned by Google. I'll show you a little bit more in the methodology.
Basically, what this means is for sites that had 0 spam flags, none of the 17 flags that we had fired, that actually meant that 99.5% of those sites were not penalized or banned, on average, in our analysis and 0.5% were. At 3 flags, 4.2% of those sites, that's actually still a huge number. That's probably in the millions of domains or subdomains that Google has potentially still banned. All the way down here with 11 flags, it's 87.3% that we did find banned. That seems pretty risky or penalized. It seems pretty risky. But 12.7% of those is still a very big number, again probably in the hundreds of thousands of unique websites that are not banned but still have these flags.
If you're looking at a specific subdomain and you're saying, "Hey, gosh, this only has 3 flags or 4 flags on it, but it's clearly been penalized by Google, Moz's score must be wrong," no, that's pretty comfortable. That should fit right into those kinds of numbers. Same thing down here. If you see a site that is not penalized but has a number of flags, that's potentially an indication that you're in that percentage of sites that we found not to be penalized.
So this is an indication of percentile risk, not a "this is absolutely spam" or "this is absolutely not spam." The only caveat is anything with, I think, more than 13 flags, we found 100% of those to have been penalized or banned. Maybe you'll find an odd outlier or two. Probably you won't.
Correlation ≠ causation
Correlation is not causation. This is something we repeat all the time here at Moz and in the SEO community. We do a lot of correlation studies around these things. I think people understand those very well in the fields of social media and in marketing in general. Certainly in psychology and electoral voting and election polling results, people understand those correlations. But for some reason in SEO we sometimes get hung up on this.
I want to be clear. Spam flags and the count of spam flags correlates with sites we saw Google penalize. That doesn't mean that any of the flags or combinations of flags actually cause the penalty. It could be that the things that are flags are not actually connected to the reasons Google might penalize something at all. Those could be totally disconnected.
We are not trying to say with the 17 flags these are causes for concern or you need to fix these. We are merely saying this feature existed on this website when we crawled it, or it had this feature, maybe it still has this feature. Therefore, we saw this count of these features that correlates to this percentile number, so we're giving you that number. That's all that the score intends to say. That's all it's trying to show. It's trying to be very transparent about that. It's not trying to say you need to fix these.
A lot of flags and features that are measured are perfectly fine things to have on a website, like no social accounts or email links. That's a totally reasonable thing to have, but it is a flag because we saw it correlate. A number in your domain name, I think it's fine if you want to have a number in your domain name. There's plenty of good domains that have a numerical character in them. That's cool.
TLD extension that happens to be used by lots of spammers, like a .info or a .cc or a number of other ones, that's also totally reasonable. Just because lots of spammers happen to use those TLD extensions doesn't mean you are necessarily spam because you use one.
Or low link diversity. Maybe you're a relatively new site. Maybe your niche is very small, so the number of folks who point to your site tends to be small, and lots of the sites that organically naturally link to you editorially happen to link to you from many of their pages, and there's not a ton of them. That will lead to low link diversity, which is a flag, but it isn't always necessarily a bad thing. It might still nudge you to try and get some more links because that will probably help you, but that doesn't mean you are spammy. It just means you fired a flag that correlated with a spam percentile.
The methodology we use
The methodology that we use, for those who are curious -- and I do think this is a methodology that might be interesting to potentially apply in other places -- is we brainstormed a large list of potential flags, a huge number. We cut that down to the ones we could actually do, because there were some that were just unfeasible for our technology team, our engineering team to do.
Then, we got a huge list, many hundreds of thousands of sites that were penalized or banned. When we say banned or penalized, what we mean is they didn't rank on page one for either their own domain name or their own brand name, the thing between the www and the .com or .net or .info or whatever it was. If you didn't rank for either your full domain name, www and the .com or Moz, that would mean we said, "Hey, you're penalized or banned."
Now you might say, "Hey, Rand, there are probably some sites that don't rank on page one for their own brand name or their own domain name, but aren't actually penalized or banned." I agree. That's a very small number. Statistically speaking, it probably is not going to be impactful on this data set. Therefore, we didn't have to control for that. We ended up not controlling for that.
Then we found which of the features that we ideated, brainstormed, actually correlated with the penalties and bans, and we created the 17 flags that you see in the product today. There are lots things that I thought were going to correlate, for example spammy-looking anchor text or poison keywords on the page, like Viagra, Cialis, Texas Hold'em online, pornography. Those things, not all of them anyway turned out to correlate well, and so they didn't make it into the 17 flags list. I hope over time we'll add more flags. That's how things worked out.
How to apply the Spam Score metric
When you're applying Spam Score, I think there are a few important things to think about. Just like domain authority, or page authority, or a metric from Majestic, or a metric from Google, or any other kind of metric that you might come up with, you should add it to your toolbox and to your metrics where you find it useful. I think playing around with spam, experimenting with it is a great thing. If you don't find it useful, just ignore it. It doesn't actually hurt your website. It's not like this information goes to Google or anything like that. They have way more sophisticated stuff to figure out things on their end.
Do not just disavow everything with seven or more flags, or eight or more flags, or nine or more flags. I think that we use the color coding to indicate 0% to 10% of these flag counts were penalized or banned, 10% to 50% were penalized or banned, or 50% or above were penalized or banned. That's why you see the green, orange, red. But you should use the count and line that up with the percentile. We do show that inside the tool as well.
Don't just take everything and disavow it all. That can get you into serious trouble. Remember what happened with Cyrus. Cyrus Shepard, Moz's head of content and SEO, he disavowed all the backlinks to its site. It took more than a year for him to rank for anything again. Google almost treated it like he was banned, not completely, but they seriously took away all of his link power and didn't let him back in, even though he changed the disavow file and all that.
Be very careful submitting disavow files. You can hurt yourself tremendously. The reason we offer it in disavow format is because many of the folks in our customer testing said that's how they wanted it so they could copy and paste, so they could easily review, so they could get it in that format and put it into their already existing disavow file. But you should not do that. You'll see a bunch of warnings if you try and generate a disavow file. You even have to edit your disavow file before you can submit it to Google, because we want to be that careful that you don't go and submit.
You should expect the Spam Score accuracy. If you're doing spam investigation, you're probably looking at spammier sites. If you're looking at a random hundred sites, you should expect that the flags would correlate with the percentages. If I look at a random hundred 4 flag Spam Score sites, 7.5% of those I would expect on average to be penalized or banned. If you are therefore seeing sites that don't fit those, they probably fit into the percentiles that were not penalized, or up here were penalized, down here weren't penalized, that kind of thing.
Hopefully, you find Spam Score useful and interesting and you add it to your toolbox. We would love to hear from you on iterations and ideas that you've got for what we can do in the future, where else you'd like to see it, and where you're finding it useful/not useful. That would be great.
Hopefully, you've enjoyed this edition of Whiteboard Friday and will join us again next week. Thanks so much. Take care.
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ADDITION FROM RAND: I also urge folks to check out Marie Haynes' excellent Start-to-Finish Guide to Using Google's Disavow Tool. We're going to update the feature to link to that as well.
Wanted to add three additional items related to Spam Score and this info:
Thanks all :-)
1. That's ok, everyone who has ever developed tools like that will understand this. It's very hard to be 100% perfect with Version 1 of the tool/product. ;)
2. Link selling is still a huge problem. Recently I have started getting lots of emails to my company email with offers to purchase links from blog posts.
Happy Friday!
A wish from my end (regarding spam) is to be able to see if a site has many (high percentage etc.) links coming from websites that has blocked Moz and other crawlers collecting site/linking information. I think that might show some interesting correlation with changes in the future.
And yes, I understand the problem trying to implement this :(
Dude. Thank you. This is an EXCELLENT explanation of the new spam tool and the caveats important to its use. Call me a happy camper!
Thanks Alan! Means a ton coming from you :-) Please don't hesitate to nudge us on other stuff you'd like to see us do. I know the team likes getting your feedback, as do I.
Hi Rand,
you are awesome i like your way to describe, really this tool helpful for all SEO professional.
There sure was a lot of interesting conversations around this tool. I think it is going to be a a staple in many people's arsenal. Thank you Rand, and thank you Moz team who worked on this.
Don
Hey Rand,
Thanks for doing the WBF on this topic. This new feature has been in the debate since its launch but it's all very constructive. As Marie Haynes wrote here, what problems SEOs might face. After trying it out myself and reading reviews from industry peers, I think people misunderstood the flag and disavow system. But still I'd say, there is still plenty of room for improvement.
Rand, I'd like to know what's the difference of methodology between CognitiveSEO's Unnatural Link Detection and Moz's Spam Score? If they both can merge together, I'm dead sure we may have a greatest SEO tool.
Thanks Rand, Great White Board Friday, i already added into my toolbox, and it works fine. Your previous article helps me a lot.
Hi Rand
It looks amazing!
Is there a way to see what is the average spam score?
An overall average might not be all that helpful, but I do think we can get averages by DA groups (e.g. what's the avg for DA 0-20 sites vs. DA 21-40 sites). Will work on that!
Hi Rand, I already add it in my Tool Box from the first publish day, this Tool & I am using it before when it name is OpenSiteExplorer ...This new feature is Great & Awesome.... Thanks for Using Advance technologies in this tool and giving more benefit to SEO Industries....Thanks A Lot..Again....:)
Rand! This looks awesome! Whoaa nelly!
I'd like to circle back to a conversation you and I had on your post about the new Link Intersect tool a few weeks ago about evaluating the quality of a directory (for Local Search). You responded to my question about directories to "use your judgment" which I think is a fair response. I think sometimes you can just "know" that a site is legit or not... but sometimes, especially after reviewing links for a site that was penalized, it can be confusing. I'm hoping that the Spam Score Metric can bring some quantitative data to help verify an SEO's gut feeling specifically about directories.
I think I understand how to use Spam Score Metric in evaluating the links pointing to a domain. I'm hoping that this tool can be used on the front end of link building -- before the link is built -- in addition to after the fact.
Marie Haynes wrote a great post about directories. I feel like I'm getting to closer to the answer!
Do you think there's a way to use the Spam Score Metric when evaluating whether or not to submit to a directory? Can we use this to determine if having a link from a site is a good idea or not before we reach out to the site?
I think Spam Score, like PA/DA, or any other metric, can be a useful addition to your consideration process around links. But, I wouldn't recommend using it as the only consideration nor would I suggest assuming that because a site has very few flags, it's necessarily safe. Spam Score can help as a data point, but it can't replace critical thinking or manual evaluation.
I have found this new metric tool very helpful in showing potential clients the need to disavow or build up existing links. Thank you for this addition to the arsenal! Potential customers seem to really be able to buy into the idea of detox services when they see it on a scale.
Be transparent is one of your biggest advantage. Thank you for sharing more information, advice and the process of your great new tool and the process. Just for that, this is a worthy WBF. I'll add this tool into my toolbox.
Thanks Jonathan! It can be tough sometimes because we know that metrics can get misinterpreted or incorrectly used. Our bias is to let data into the wild and then trust that over time, folks will find the right ways to apply it - better that than keeping data only to ourselves and not sharing out of fear (at least IMO).
Regarding the .info domains - when they used to cost 99 cents, they were used a lot by spammers. But now they cost about the same as a .com - and many spammers have let their domains lapse. So not sure anymore whether a .info is a spam indicator like it used to be 5 years ago.
Agree with .cc being a spam indcator though.
I think this tool is great, The only problem with it is that moz is not indexing all backinks mabe 20 percent of the link webmaster tools is showing, it will be great if we can submit a table for moz to check and index all links showing in webmaster tools, that way we can get a more realistic picture....
Watched your video of this week WBF, its great for SEO, but i have some simple question for you Rand?
Question No1: How can we measure the spam scores, is there any tool or link to check the spam score? or we can check it from Google by their Brand name?
Question No2: You have said that no. of flags, so where we find out the flag, how can we know about spam website flag?
Question No3: About any website which we comments or paste our link, or any web directory which we paste or put our brand link, how can we know about this is low quality or bad links submission site?
Question No4: If we disavow any website which we know that is giving our backlinks more effectively, for example any website which give us total of 9 or 19 links then why we delete it from webmaster?
Hi Noman - you can learn more about the flags and how to access Spam Score inside OpenSiteExplorer here: https://moz.com/blog/spam-score-mozs-new-metric-to-...
Re: disavowing - I'd still strongly recommend you review manually and simply use Spam Score as one metric in your review process, as I noted in the video.
Thanks Rand, could really do with this. Shame it's only available on the paid version :(
This new feature looks great !
Just tested in on one of my websites, and it allowed me to understand better the profile of the websites that are making links to mine.
I have one question, just to be sure...
In the results of OSE, you see "Spam Score" just under Domain Authority... it's the spam score for my own website right ?
Then below in the Inbound Links section, I can see the spam score of each websites that are making links to mine ?
Cheers.
Yeah - at the top of the page, you'll see the Spam Score for the site you entered. If you go to the Spam Analysis section, you'll see a list of the highest Spam Score subdomains that link to you (and you can export these).
Good Start in a creative way.
Would you post a detailed list of all 17 flags (factors)? This should be useful.
It's on the previous blogpost about this. See
https://moz.com/blog/spam-score-mozs-new-metric-to-measure-penalization-risk
Pretty awesome tool guys, a fine addition to moz (which his probably at the moment the most complex seo analysis tool).
After a month of using this tool, I would say the accuracy has been very good, and it has greatly helped me explain the quality of links pointing to my client's website. Showing a potential client the quality of links to their site is a great weapon to have, and it doesn't require a lot of explanation. Great tool to have in my possession.
Marketers can be thankful that there are venues like MOZ that keep watch over Google’s algorithm changes. Spam is a bad thing, especially when it comes to links. Your link profile has a lot to do with how well or bad your site ranks. MOZ has released its new tool, Spam Score, and it shows great promise for helping marketers rid themselves of spam links. The method uses a 17-flag scoring system. When using the software, you either fire a flag or you don’t. MOZ software is highly dependable. While MOZ states that flags are not necessarily a cause for concern, the flags do indicate that there’s a correlation between possible spam links and why a site has been penalized in ranking by Google. It’s one more tool that allows you to look more closely at your overall SEO endeavors. Be careful not to disavow every, suspect, backlink to your site. That may get you into trouble and prevent you from ranking for anything. Proceed with caution.
I LOVE your spam score! It's very useful for finding problems with sites quickly. Thank you for developing this and sharing it with us.
Thanks Rand,
Your Video gave me a bit relief. I saw 2 Spam score on my website and was really worried. What if my boss scolds me ? will i get fired? blah blah questions were roaming in my mind..
Thanks a ton for this video :)
Thank you for Post, but I want to check my Wordpress blog Spam Score .please share me any free tool link. if possible .....
Hello,
I have a problem because, My spam score have 2/17. But one of this is "no contact info". But I have contact info in my web.
Could someone please explain what is the problem?
when moz says: "no contact info", what is it?
Sorry for my english
David,
estudio de diseño grafico
Hi David - we think it's a bug on our end, and it's something we're fixing. Should be better in 1-2 months with a future index.
Very interesting and well thought out. I imagine this took a lot longer to create then it did to explain here. Thank you for all the tools, explanations, and all you do for the SEO Industry. Great Product!
Thank you for writing this great post, But i want to know how can i check my all backlinks? i have a site with more then 5k backlinks...
Thanks for the clarification, finally I understand it!
Just saw a new feature in MOZ "Spam Score" and stumbled upon here for more information. Thanks for the great post.
Thanks Rand for sharing such a great tool. you understand better that what is the need of SEO community :)
Nice explanation. The information is very helpful. Should I contact the webs who link me if the have a spam score around 5-8% to delete it?
Hi Rand,
Actually my site had the spam score of 6% is it good ?
Hey Rand thank for WBF on this feature, its a great addon to Moz and I am pretty sure its gonna rock the SEO industry pretty soon.
Thanks Rand. I think the only thing that might concern me is that the percentage of some sites where correlation is near to 80-100% and are not penalized. I think it would be good to study those and check. Would surely try this tool.
Great video, Rand. I can't wait to use this tool. I have a question: have you used Link Research Tool's Link Detox Tool? I have and have a little familiarity with how it works. It seems to me, at the onset anyways, that these two tools are trying to accomplish similar things. One more question: is Moz's new spam tool meant to eventually a direct competitor to Link Detox?
Thanks for all the info! Keep it coming, sir!
Hi Chad - my understanding is the Link Detox is a bit more focused on identifying features that might indicate the kinds of links that get your site penalized, but not necessarily on ID'ing features of sites Google has penalized (which is what our flags correlate to). Similar for sure, and I think there's overlap, but IMO, both are useful for those looking to clean up or protect against spam.
If someone utilizes a click "ad" service to help pay for costs or generate income on their site, do those count as flags? Often, site owners have little control over those ads. Our sites do not use those ad services -- thank you, Lord -- but quite a number do. Just curious.
Hi Robert - no, those wouldn't be figured into Spam Score. Unfortunately, we have no way to access that type of data (who searches Google for what and whether they're legitimate or not). Would be cool though!
Great video Rand - thanks for the new, cool, useful tool. Are you sharing the list of 17 "spam flags"?
Yes - you can see all of them listed with details on the original blog post.
Thanks!
Rand, this WBF is little less viral than others but I am fueled a lot!!
I just want to confirm one more thing. Let me explain by example...
e.g.
I have commented on one of the article published in world's top most business magazine like forbes, entrepreneurs. Actually the article is published by guest author or contributor. And consider I have referred an of my article(published in my website) as a part of making my point strong.
Now I have realized, guest contributor is publishing content frequently without worrying about its quality. Rather the article on which I have commented is good quality. I know Google never forgive him for spreading worthless information on highly impactful platform.
Rand, now my question is
Can spam score metric measure this? May I get idea of comment removal from that article to prevent site penalty?
Hi Maulik - nofollow almost always means that Google will ignore the link (and comment links on sites like Forbes or Entrepreneur are nofollowed). In Spam Score, I don't believe any of the flags look at nofollow links to your site, so these would have no impact there either.
Oh..Rand very sorry...
I just forget that this one but the same question will raise when someone(who publish articles frequently) link one of my article for citation purpose in his writing.
This link is do follow.
If you've got a followed link from a quality piece on Forbes or Entreprenuer or the like, I'd say you're in good shape.
Used and loved spam score. On the day which spam score launched I had some doubts regarding the length of the domain, domains with .info and .cc TLD's and also couple of other things. but this video was aswesome and everything is clear now. Thank you for this video.
Thanks - yeah, the flags themselves can seem odd until you realize why they're there. My big goal around communication of the feature was to help explain exactly that.
Yes MOZ, great news this new tool is working! I think victims of negative SEO will be pleased to have that easy way to monitor that from Open Site Explorer. Thumbs up
Hi Rand. Thanks for the video, it's helpful to get a clear insight into the rationale behind the tool. I've not had a chance to experiment with spam score as much as I would have liked so far, but the team and I have certainly seen enough to know that this will be a real asset in our toolbox. One question though, are there any plans to allow us to drop a list of domains into the tool and get a score? (Or is it already there and I've just missed it?) Also looking forward to seeing it integrated with the Moz toolbar.
How do I get an updated spam score after fixing problem areas? Excess links were removed a couple of weeks ago but Moz is still counting them as spam elements.
Hi Linda - it usually takes us a couple index cycles to pick up those changes, so it might not be until January or February that you see them reflected.
More broadly though, I wouldn't worry about spam flags on your own site -- this is really more about sorting incoming links so you can identify and potentially disavow/recognize the ones that might come from suspicious or penalized sites.
Hi Rand! Thank you for sharing and clarifying WBF, thanks for sharing this great feature, I will mention it on our blog as well definitely
Thanks for the video, Rand! I did't mind a Moz-specific video for WBF. Very interesting to see those percentages correlating to the amount of flags.
your absolutely correct, some of them i followed in my website. remaining I do follow from these post. great article
I think this tools is awesome. This will really help to find many spammers to Google.
Great article, Now the domain flippers can try out this tool and make most of it.
Regards
Hi Rand,
Thanks for this new tool, i am sure you guys must have done some great home works and really appriciate your hard work but still a lot more to do as i think you ignored the anchor text variation or spammy anchor texts calculation. When can we expect this flag to be integerated as its one of the most important factor in removing panalities of the website.
Great Job RAND!! Thanks...
They weren't ignored exactly - they were on our list, they simply didn't correlate to the penalized/banned sites, so were excluded in this particular metric.
That said, you can and I would encourage you to look at incoming anchor text (e.g. like this one for my blog) and weigh it as a part of how you evaluate site/pages/links.
That's really interesting - that anchor text variation doesn't seem to impact whether a blog is spammy or not... I'm guessing that spammyness is based purely on on-page factors
Yes guys please be careful in submitting links to the disavow tool because this could significantly affect your site's overall rankings. Disavow tools is used if you think there are many spam links that's referring to your domain. I tried it myself and you can't afford the consequences.
Thanks for clarifying Rand! I know that this is not a full proof technique, but should be treated as an additional tool to see if a site is in trouble.
I can wait to check it out. As I wrote in the blog post about the spam score, I am wondering if email spam (on a domain level) would correlate with your spam score of subdomains.
As far as I know, using a domain for email spam would be awful in terms of organic ranking.
Email spam is an interesting idea - we might be able to use some of the spam repositories that already exist for email to compare and check correlations. My guess is that they might not line up consistently, but could be worth a look.
There will be some differences, but some areas could be benificial for your spam score, so great to hear that it could be useful!
Thank
Hey Rand , i tried to check few of my website and it shows 0 spam does that mean the website perfectly fine as per the Moz tools ?
A score of 0 simply means no flags were fired. There could still be other kinds of problems with the site, but statistically speaking, there's a very low probability it will be penalized or banned.
Thank you Rand, This is really awesome. I can also add it in my ToolBox :)
Hello Mr. Rand, Thats really a great feature, specially for clients who worked with old School SEO Strategies and now looking for spam links removal, i will add a piece of content about this on my blog too.. Thanks Again.
Cheers.
Hie...Mr. Rand..Its awesome the way you give us Describe tools.Thanks so much for sharing this infos..
Thank you for sharing a great knowledge.. keep it up whiteboard friday... :)