I'm not talking solely about spam. Traditional spam is really boring. Badly formatted link spam for such delectable products as replica Rolex watches and Prada handbags was never remotely interesting. Before we changed the way in which we receive Web 2.0 Awards nominations, my email would be filled with spammy submission forms every morning. I had the joy of being offered Xanax and Tramadol, neatly packaged within a Gucci wallet. As stupid as these autospam submissions were, they were very dull. I likes me some spam that has imagination!
Bring on YOUmoz. Some of the posts I've moderated in mornings past would make Rae Hoffman blush. When I see "6 UGC entries awaiting moderation", I'm always dumbly hopeful that all six will be genuine, but I usually find that at least four are let-downs. I do understand the method behind the submissions: if you submit the same crap to 600 places, the chances are that one or two of your entries will make it past a moderator, or that there will be no moderation in place at all. According to Matt, who built the system, it's highly unlikely that bots can automatically submit pieces. That means that real live idiots are imagining that I'll publish their Elisabeth Swan Halloween Costume spam, which links (omg wtf) to a spamtastic Squidoo lens on the subject. A YOUmoz entry submitted by the aboved-linked-to member was waiting for me this morning. The text of the post was identical to that in the spammer's profile, and to the text on their Squidoo page.
Not long ago, I was treated to special discounts on UPS by this thoughtful member who (if I remember rightly) also thought it apt to compose his or her entry entirely in capital letters. While it takes me no time at all to click "deny", there is a part of me that marvels at the idiocy behind this practice, even given the fact that they obviously submit this stuff all over the place: this is a search marketing blog. We partake in, write about, consult on and generally breathe legitimate, intelligent marketing practices. We enjoy the challenges of SEO, of writing and of marketing that require innovation, brain-power and hard work. One quick glance at our homepage or our blog should give even the most mentally stunted spammer a good idea that this isn't the type of place that will welcome his or her replica prescription mortgage attorneys. Or whatever it was they were last pushing.
Sometimes, it seems that people simply misunderstand the purpose of YOUmoz. Sometimes we get submissions that are simply praising SEOmoz or are asking a question which, while nice, aren't published to the blog. Longer posts that pose tricky questions and invite insight from the community are totally different: those are fantastic. However, this morning I came across an entry that I'd never seen the likes of before. I'm not sure what the mental process was that took this person from Rand's post about our upcoming hiring, our VC funding, Mel joining us and Matt leaving, to YOUmoz, but instead of posting his views in a comment, he sent us a UGC entry:
Yeah, I took a screen shot of that. Just to show you what I saw when I came across it this morning. From the title of the "post", it seems that Dave has mistaken YOUmoz for an email form. Unfortunately, YOUmoz is no such thing. Just as an aside, I have to ask: which times have we failed to keep up with? If they are the times of composing structurally correct sentences, I guess we're not alone.
I've thoroughly enjoyed and learned from the good YOUmoz submissions we receive. They're often written by experienced, intelligent people who have successful blogs of their own, and we take it as a big compliment that they take the time to write pieces for our site as well. I'm fully aware that, when dealing with user generated content, you'll run into a fair amount of spam; however, I've been puzzling / giggling / groaning over this section of our website for a while now.
In a totally unrelated aside, today is the first anniversary of my joining SEOmoz. This time last year, I was staring nervously at my old boxy monitor, tasked with link-building for a British art gallery. How times have changed!
I've thoroughly enjoyed and learned from the good YOUmoz submissions we receive. They're often written by experienced, intelligent people who have successful blogs of their own, and we take it as a big compliment that they take the time to write pieces for our site as well. I'm fully aware that, when dealing with user generated content, you'll run into a fair amount of spam; however, I've been puzzling / giggling / groaning over this section of our website for a while now.
In a totally unrelated aside, today is the first anniversary of my joining SEOmoz. This time last year, I was staring nervously at my old boxy monitor, tasked with link-building for a British art gallery. How times have changed!
Having to both moderate my own blog and write the anti-spam software for it (being a glutton for punishment AND a control freak), I feel your pain. Just yesterday, I added some code so that when a blog comment is marked as spam and contains the words "viagra" or "cialis", the commenter automatically gets bounced to an online pharmacy (and spammer of my site). That way the morons can steal each others' bandwidth instead of mine.
Dave seems to be a very angry person.
I hope that you are treated to better entries in the future.
Inflatemouse, yours are always very good entries :) Yes, Dave doesn't seem too happy. While disgrunted emails are commonplace, it's amusing to see them guised as YOUmoz entries...
Well thank you very much.;)
I don't know about you, Jane, but I personally love it when I get a "How to make your own Harry Potter Halloween costume" post in YOUmoz. (Yes, I actually got that post once.)
We should save the best ones and create an antiYOUmoz page at Halloween.
You know, today is "Talk Like a Pirate Day..."
That should be every day. Is it really today? I guess I really have been here a year, since I remember Talk like a Pirate day at the office last year too!
I've been thinking about spamming YOUmoz, not for money, just posting a huge list of dick and fart jokes, and link it to other huge lists of dick and fart jokes I've posted elsewhere. I'll skip the links.
BTW sorry Rand I know you;re going to have to delete this, but you should read it first some great ones in there.
Bob - seriously, I love you, but can you please keep our comments clean? Just email me, or post it on your own blog and paste a link!
Understood,
Sorry about that those jokes are just a way of me dealing with very complex case of Medorthophobia.
Dirty jokes via e-mail from here on out, check.
I think I would enjoy to read all those weird postings you get.You should indeed collect the funniest ones. :-)
BTW: What does "relax" mean in terms of SEO? Any enlightening thoughts? :-)
Great idea. I always get a kick out of that sort of stuff. Maybe a best of YouMoz spam section. I suppose there could be issues with giving spammers any credit but if you only show the most inventive and unique stuff at least those getting the backhanded compliment would at least be original.
Someone just subitted and article, directly copied and pasted from Mashable. What is WRONG with these people!?
I ask myself the same thing with every spam comment I get on my blog. Sometimes you look at what they said and wonder how anyone could think it would get through.
Some people will simply never take the time to understand how to do things right. They'll look for every shortcut they can find and then wonder why the never succeed.
I guess they submit to bazillions of sites and make it through the moderation - or come across no moderation - at one or two. The thing that stuns me about this particular instance is that he copied an article from Mashable and didn't even insert his own spammy links. The point of this action would be... ? /astonishment
No one said these people were the brightest crayons in the box.
I think it all comes down to how easy it is to mass submit as to why we all see it. It's not going to get though most of the time, but it's so easy to send out that even if only a few get past moderation it delivers a positive ROI.
Sad, but I think these spam submissions are going to be with us for awhile.
I've been noticing lately with some of the spam comments I get the person sending it doesn't even try to make the comment look legit. I get alot saying where the comment is literally "sorry for this spam" or something very similar. Are they thinking the honest approach is going to work? Or are they simply assuming that no matter what they write it's only going to get through if I don't notice so what's written isn't important?
There have been a surprising number of spam comments appear on SEOmoz within the last 12 hours. I'm not sure whether to delete them or to leave them there, exposing the posters and their sites as the spammers (and idiots) that they are. Their spam is definitely appearing in front of many knowledgable pairs of eyes...
I doubt there's any connection, but I've noticed a lot more spam emails in my inbox this week. It seems to be about 3 times the usual amount.
Spam usually seems to come in waves. I'll get a lot for a week or two and then not much for a couple of weeks. Then back to it being a lot. I usually figure it's some script kiddie playing with a new toy.
Congrats - and next time I get round to submitting a post, just remember I voted for you!
;)
PS - I told you that you're probably famous in the UK recruitment sector right? I always use the Choose a Moz staffer as an extreme example of how recruitment could adapt to web 2.0...
Oh man, that was one of the most stressful experiences of my entire life - hired in front of the world! And to top it off, I was actually sleeping when Rand called me to tell me I'd gotten the job. Because back then, 9:45am was a perfectly acceptable time to still be asleep...
And still is, thank you very much.
Three thoughts:
1. How big is Michelle's thumb?
2. Dave needs that Xanax wallet.
3. Thanks for the giggle.
Errr... ummm... I am probably one of the idiots who got a post declined (one went through and one got declined) and gave you a few giggles..
Honestly... when i write, its like mental spill over - I dont think, i dont research... just let it spill..
But, dont you have a policy to let submitter know why they were declined? It would be excellent feedback to know where you went wrong and enable you to avoid the errors...
Is the "my #$^% is so big" post (submitted by bobrains) actually going to stay on the thread?
I seriously doubt it. Hope it didn't offend you, I just though it was funny given the nature of the topic.
You know its a post about Moderating, and it's a bunch of dirty jokes, sort of a joke within a joke.
Most of the jokes were actually written by Drew Carey.
OK - this is a little embarrasing. I just found this (I am not really an SEOmoz frequent reader). As I recall, I was testing some features. Generally, our toolset scrapes the page with every onLoad but for form submissions, we had to capture each character as it was typed. We pull the page onto our domain (else the javascript will not work), so I am not sure how it could have submitted - from our copy of the page ???(weird).
Anyway, it's late but my apologies. It was just something I typed as fodder to test a tool and I am not really sure how it got submitted - renegade code.
I really don't think I care about SEOmoz's internal affairs (I've got my own stuff here to deal with).
Seems it gave a few something to talk about
Happy anniversary :)
Dave might want to take a walk around the block before posting.
What does Michelle's wrath look like? Never mind the size of her thumb...
I don't know about her wrath or her thumb, but I did visit her firm's website and I thought she was pretty cute.
This Blog has inspired me to make a YOUmoz post, if only for the sake of adding a few grains of sand to your hourglass of sanity whilst the many others are slowly dragged away. :|
TBA on that though...
Published and replied to! I hope others get in on the conversation your post started, because yours is a common problem people have with the linkbait idea.
Your hard work is truly appreciated. Not only for stemming the flow of rubbish but also for your work on those posts that are worthy of being posted.
I'm not a very active blogger and my 'art' is still unrefined. I did notice the small changes you made to my first, and so far only, Youmoz submission though and they have highlighted a couple of ways I can improve my posts in future. For that I would like to thank you both.
Thanks, streety. I think Rebecca was in charge of YOUmoz when your post was published, but I'm sure she'll see this too :)
Yeah, when I moderate YOUmoz submissions I usually clean them up for spelling/grammar and have on occasion altered the blog title.