From the perspective of someone on the panel, it was minorly frustrating not to be asked more challenging questions. Both panelists and speakers missed opportunities to get into difficult, controversial or interesting discussions. In the future, panelists should arrive with three or four key points that they'd like to discuss, and they should compare notes beforehand to avoid overlap. In Q&A-focused sessions, panelists often rely on the moderator and the audience to provide all the material: we're basically led to believe that this is going to satisfy up to ninety minutes of content. Sometimes it does, but when moderation, audience interaction or panelist-involvement fails, you're left staring at a room of tired conference attendees who want information and entertainment that you are ill-prepared to provide.
Towards the end of the session, we received some good questions; however, there was plenty of room for improvement. It should take less than forty-five minutes for a panel to get going about such a hot topic. It would be a shame to write the panel off, as it has a lot of potential to be informative and entertaining. Unofficially, I suggest we be allowed to show up with a drink in hand... and is that such an odd request, given that it's Vegas?!
Blogging certainly has its place in the SEO world. For better or for worse, many SEOs have found notoriety through publishing online. We've certainly seen big rewards from the activity on our blog, and we know that there are more opportunities to be had in the future. Despite the fact that many of the industry's best search engine optimisation professionals don't blog, we have a culture of online publishing. A successful blog is one catalyst to being recognised, respected and offered business. It is not, however, a simple task to maintain a viable blog and sometimes it's downright agonising.
Here's what I would provide as discussion points or questions if faced with a panel of bloggers... And here are my replies, because I like talking to myself in an empty room!
How on earth do you find new things to blog about every day or every week? There is so much back-scratching, in-fighting, speculation and repetition in all circles of bloggers. Surely your blog is no better than the next one, and in fact, it might be worse.
It might be. As I said in my second session at Pubcon (Community Hacking: 96 Baiting Strategies You Can Employ), blogging has liberalised and liberated publishing to the extent that any idiot can do it. You may well be an idiot. I'm most likely one too. I didn't have to get a degree in anything to write online, and half the things I write probably mean that my English degree should be revoked.
"Finding something to write about" rarely works for me. I either have something to say or I don't, and when I look at my inventory of posts here, I can clearly see when I wrote because I wanted to and when I wrote because I thought I had to. I am lucky in that, if I don't write, someone else here will. However, I understand the panic faced by blog owners who don't have multiple writers at their disposal.
My best advice is that if you don't have anything to blog about, either don't write, or don't be afraid to write something humourous, personal or otherwise out-of-the-ordinary. I've attempted to pull good advice out when it's really not there to begin with. Works about as well as a stuffed meta keywords tag in the poker SERPs.
How do you deal with trolls?
Here's one no blog owner wants to touch. Calling somebody a troll is a dangerous game. People accuse bloggers and webmasters of covering their own shortcomings by singling out critics and labeling them trolls. The fact is, however, that offensive people do roam the Internet in search of trouble.
We've banned people on this site before (and I'm not talking about spammers). It takes a lot of terrible behaviour to accurately label someone a troll: a lesson I've learned by doing it inaccurately a couple of times. Set rules for what constitutes trolling or offensive behaviour on your blog and develop a warning system. We've published our blog etiquette policies, and it's useful to have them "on paper." Personally email people who break your rules and kindly point out your policies. Employ an "x-strikes and you're out" rule and stick to it. Don't publicise the banning. It's not a medal of honour and you only invite the troll to return from a new IP. From my experience, both here and (more so) when hearing about other people's problems, trolls don't return after they've been banned. If they do, they don't stay for long. Don't celebrate them and give them reason to rejoin the discussion.
Great, so I have a place to impart my undoubtedly incredible knowledge. What else is a blog good for?
During Community Hacking: 96 Baiting Strategies You Can Employ, I was asked to talk a little about how we drive links and eyeballs to our site via the blog. It seems to come as a bit of a surprise to many people that blogs aren't just good for writing up advice. Some other things we've done with our blog include:
- Linking to larger projects, such as the Search Rankings Factors, Web 2.0 Awards and our SEO guides. It's a huge mistake to launch projects and not link to them from a more prominent area. Blogs are easy to keep track of, frequently indexed and generally incredibly SEO-friendly. If a site has no blog, giving new content maximum visibility is a lot harder.
Screen shots of screen shots. Only on a blog, people.
- Another thing we've done recently is re-write our Beginner's Guide to SEO via blog posts. When they're complete, we'll compile the individual posts (read: chapters) into one document, relaunch the guide and 301 redirect all the blog posts to the finished article. Thus, we've been actively building links to a document that is still under construction. Once it's finished, we'll add those new links to those of the old document. This isn't only good for severely outdated articles (do we advocate reciprocal links and submissions to Lycos in there?! It's about that old!). Any project that you'd like to build over time could be released in this manner. Just remember the redirects in order to avoid looking like the grand master of duplicate content.
- We've done this to an extent (although I don't recall specifically doing it for link building purposes), but deciding how to handle comments is great for driving links. Sometimes, the comments are what people link to! Think of Sphinn, a social news site with hardly any original content... aside from user comments. People link to Sphinn pages when they want readers to vote on their content, but they also link to noteworthy comment threads. No matter how boring your blog post, interesting comments can still drive some links.
On the other hand, closing comments forces people to talk about you elsewhere. It would be stupid to talk about a post and not link to it, so they'll also throw you a link while they're discussing what you wrote. Win! Of course, they could be horrible and nofollow your link, or copy and paste your URL, but very few people are willing to be this much of a tool. Bloggers must decide when comments should be open or closed. I have no solid figures on this, but it seems that ninety percent of blogs allow comments.
Mind your language, young lady. Or should you?
We've used some choice language on here more than once. The person charged with writing the Bank of America's corporate blog (no, I doubt such a beast exists) shouldn't be cursing up a storm, but the odd swear word here and there isn't going to hurt. They say that swearing is a sign of a lazy vocabulary, but I tend to take great care with my choice of profanity and if it adds to the conversation, I'll use it. We do it very rarely (I believe Rand got, for want of a better term, a lot of shit for it once), but the rest of us have dropped in some language that our grandmas wouldn't like as well. However, unless the blog is supposed to be a Cracked.com-style catalogue of all things terrible, avoid using curse words as commas.
Should you care about your audience?
This sort of came up during the session, and I noted that audiences change a lot over time. Very few of our daily commenters from 2006 are still active participants now. It would be wrong to mourn the loss of these people, some of whom still visit and comment from time to time, but I agree that caring about a blog's audience is essential. The only thing you have to keep in mind is that it will change. Also, people who don't take part anymore aren't necessarily not reading, and their reasons for backing away aren't necessarily a negative reflection on you our your writing. Lisa Ditlefsen recently mentioned to me that she used to spend a lot more time reading and commenting on SEOmoz than she does now. However, it was her life and schedule that changed, not her respect for us or our content.
Blogs, forums and other online groups worry that older members won't welcome new members, but blogs' ever-changing audiences suggests that this isn't a huge problem. At SEOmoz, people make themselves known pretty quickly and, aside from the aforementioned trolls, newly active members aren't ignored or rejected.
Short version: yes, care about who reads the blog and recognise that they make your efforts worthwhile. However, realise that no audience is permanent.
I really hope that Pubcon brings back the 5 Bloggers and a Microphone session again next year. The only thing it needs is some extra structure, both from panelists and moderators. If Pubcon wanted to really push the Q&A aspect of the panel, they should consider adopting an SMX-style question format where audience members email or text in questions. It shouldn't come as a surprise to anybody that a room full of SEOs and online marketers would rather write down their questions than deliver them via microphone! Would extra structure and some better-conceived questions save this session? And what would you ask a table full of search marketing industry bloggers, aside from "what time is Search Bash?"
One thing I'd be interested by: on a mature blog with existing readership, what are people's processes when publishing a routine post - do you tweet it, promote it, shout it etc? What about when you write one you're really proud of? What about when you deliberately wrote linkbait (in the form of a regular blog article). I know my answers (and those of some other people) but I think there is some potentially interesting discussion (especially around self-promotion side of things).
On a different angle, for day-to-day blog posts, does anyone go through anything that looks like an offline media publishing process (e.g. with editorial review etc.)?
On our company blog I act as not so unofficial editor - I check posts from other members of the agency before they go live to ensure that the grammar/spelling is ok (cue jokes about me checking anyone else's grammar/spelling), to make sure that it's going to be of interest and to make sure that it doesn't say anything that it shouldn't. For a business blog of any sort I would insist on something like this - we've certainly had cases where things went up without being checked and had to be withdrawn.
On Jane's main point (at least I think it was the main one):
Matt did this for the Extreme SEO session at the a4uExpo affiliate conference and it certainly gave the whole session a very relaxed feel, and made it much more fun. The guys only had a couple of bottles of beer each, so none of them got drunk, it just made it feel a lot less formal.
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Consider this a joke about you checking anyone else's grammar / spelling :)
I'll generally tweet something I want people to see (I tweeted this last night), although I try not to do that too often because it becomes pointless when people do it for everything they write.
If I've deliberately written linkbait, I'm usually not afraid to... um... spam my friends if I need social media help.
However, I'm lucky, because SEOmoz is so visible. Less visible blogs are a harder time. I'm more likely to promote something I write on SEO-Chicks, as I know fewer people read it to begin with.
In our company, the printed, off-line collateral goes through an extensive review process often involving 4 or more reviewers/editors, and takes weeks to approve. The online material goes up with just a quick once-over, if that. It seems the idea is that if we find errors or whatever, we can always edit later.
On one hand the extended review process bogs down the publishing proces, and I don't want that. On the other, I sometimes wonder if the quality of the content suffers because there isn't that second set of eyes.
"They say that swearing is a sign of a lazy vocabulary"
Bollocks
Agreed. Don't question our fucking perspicacity because a few of our colloquialisms infrequently incorporate some shit.
I think this was the 3rd or 4th time I've been on this panel. I can say that all of the past panels have been well received with lots of great feedback.
With no prepared discussion points or PPTs it really is only as good as the questions asked. Some of the questions were great, some not so much (that audience member really did want us to discuss PPC on a blogging panel!?!).
Maybe next year we can get attendees to think about questions ahead of time and submit them a few weeks before. That way we can all get together and be better prepared.
At the end of the day, all that matters is whether the attendees got what they needed from the panel. While there were plenty of opportunities for questions, us panelists have to ultimately take responsibility for the quality of the session--maybe my singing was what really turned people off. ;-)
Re your question - I'd be really interested to ask bloggers about their own personal development with regard to them finding their tone of voice / style of writing online.
I recognise this might sound a little pretentious, but as I've only just started blogging I'd really enjoy hearing someone's take on this.
Like most people, prior to blogging most of my written communication was very formal - e.g. performance reports, business proposals etc. Replicating this tone of voice leads to very stiff, formal blog posts which don't quite sit right with me; hence I've been playing around with styles of writing. I'd love to hear how other people have dealt with this.
I'd also want to ask are there any posts which you regret writing and why?
I think it is a personal thing on the writing style and also depends on the audience with which you are intending your posts to be read by. I try to focus my blog on small to medium size business owners who don't know too much about the web and internet marketing. I like to keep it on the light side, with a bit of humor (or at least I think!) and some examples. You can check it out at www.ignite-media.com
@khilley, when someone comments on our blog we moderate it first and then post it live. It may seem annoying to the person looking to post a comment but for right now we like to know what is getting posted. Once the site gets larger and more comments come in I'm sure we'll have to rethink this approach.
Great thoughts, and feel free to link: it's for a constructive purpose and it'll be automatically nofollowed anyway ;)
I tend to think that the only way to develop your voice as a blogger is to get out there, write, and see what happens. The only way for your voice to be "natural" is if you let it evolve organically. Unfortunately, that's probably going to mean some missteps and mediocre posts in the beginning, but there are worse things in life than a mediocre post.
That's kind of what I figured - and I'm really enjoying the process. I've deliberately created a personal blog for the purpose.
It's also really fun to write about whatever I like - as previously I've been writing posts for clients about some pretty dry subject matter :)
I've anyone's got the time to swing by and take a look I'd be really grateful for any feedback / thoughts. There's a link to my blog in my SEOMoz profile.
Of course! I was actually planning on writing a post chronicling the evolution of my blogging and talk about which posts I look back on and cringe over. :D
Great idea. I'd love to read that...
Damn girl, now I just have to comment =) Great post Jane, and yes you are totally right, in my case its definetly time and situation that has led to me commenting less. SEOmoz is still my favourite! In fact, today I am writing my monthy search column for b2b marketing magazine so I can totally allow myself to read all my favourite blogs (and even comment, halleluja!) to get some inspiration. I even have a cup of coffe and some chocolate, bliss!!
SEOmoz was the first blog I started following regularly when I started out, in fact at one point I was the number 7 ranked (on moz points). Obviously Ciaran (Liza) was above me, the comment hore he is ;p
But back to the point, yes I still read although I don't comment (much at all) and I still VERY much respect and love SEOmoz (I kind of have to when you are my sister, seperated at birth lol)
Lisa, thank you so much for stopping by! I meant to ping you and tell you that I'd mentioned you in the post.
I know that I comment less than I did before as well. It's funny what being busy will do to your blog activity ;)
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Nice follow-up to the session. I honestly thought the reaction was a bit harsh - as Andy said, it really depends on the questions in an open forum like that. I also think that people put 5 big names in a room and expect magical, money-making wisdom to fall from the sky - sometimes, our expectations are just out of whack.
Great post Jane, raises some great points, and I like the idea of sharing new content/products via blogs!!!
Can't really add to that :)
Jane, I love these questions and promise to post the answers to my question soon. It was a fun panel just for the camraderie going on, but you're right, there needed to me more meat.
As for why some peoplestop commenting and participating, I am with Lisa. At least for me it's the change in lifestyle not the respect for the writing or the material presented.
A while back in conjunction with SEMpdx's Searchfest, I suggested having a session where the presenters would be having a cocktail on stage and prospective topics would show up on the big screen behind the podium for them to rap about. I even suggested placing the bartender on stage so the speakers could get a refill if necessary (though the audience couldn't get the drinks until after the session). I never got anybody else to buy into that idea.
So, perhaps somebody else thinks having a drink on stage is a good idea?
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I didn't attend that session at Pubcon cause I didn't really understand what the purpose of it was so I chose a different topic.
I don't think it was the subject or the idea of the session but that both speakers and audience were just not prepared. Perhaps Brad could add to the description to prep by bringing questions to the panel. If it would have been called: Ask the Bloggers, it might have been more clear on what it was all about.
Geez, its been a long week... that should be Brett, not Brad... I think my eyes are getting blurry from all the online research i've been doing since coming back from Vegas.
Great post, Jane! Noting is more frustrating than many Q-n-A sessions with poor questions. I feel your pain. And I like your choice of questions and answers much better.
didn't go to pubcon, not sure what the session was like but did you have anyone who did corporate blogs.. as in FOR clients?
I'm currently managing slightly more than 20 blogs for clients and by managing i mean, we set it uip, design the template, advise the bloggers at the clients office what to do, add widgets to there blogs, help them manage their RSS feeds.. (some blogs have more than one depending on product lines). We have blogging policies that every blogger must sign, etc..
Then again, maybe your session was for people who want to be bloggers... and in that case.. you should be having a journalism workshop...
and for your why haven't you spent more time on SEOMoz...??
well... trolls would be a good word.. and i shall not names.. but once the same old people (other SEO bloggers, or forum hagfish), with the same old opinions, which are usually wrong.. show up.. SEOMoz becomes less attractive, because it becomes one continuous online argument.. (no fun.. and NOT productive..) and of course.. twitter.. which begat.. figuring out i was wasting 2.5 billable hours a day on it.. which begat actually working.. le gasp.. you mean.. in the past week you have made 4 websites live with keyword studies from last week you have performed, being used for on-page optimization from the ground.. up? Alt tags, title tags, unique URLs, proper image names based on keywords relevant to that page to decrease bounce rate on searches???
yes.. just this week.. lol. maybe that's why i wasn't at pubcon...?
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Hi Jane, you put a lot of work into today's blog and it's appreciated. I have a blog that has pretty much turned into a story about my business life. I may have come at in the wrong way but I'm going to rethink my direction. I have posted rarely and I didn't go off into different directions. I'm sure my blog would make a good study of what things not to do. My intent was to get the word out about our company.
SEOmoz is a very good example of a successful blog. It does benefit from the volume of talented people involved in it of course.
I actually think that the theme of your blog sounds "different" and could thus be successful. The fact that most blogs are the same is usually what makes them not worth reading! I say keep it up :)
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This really is a fantastic article, so much so that not even this typo, "copy and past your URL" detracted from it. You really do put some thought into your posts, which is clearly evidenced in your writing.
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Jane,It's always important to know your audience. Especially there state after a long conference.Being prepared helps all involved get more value out of the presentation. I like your idea for beating writer's block...just write something personal. People can connect with this better anyway.Alexander
That's definitely true about all of us visiting and commenting less often...
I'm curious: how do you deal with your blog audience, when you don't really know who they are, because you don't track them directly, and you don't have blog comments active? I have such a blog, in a niche, and I get consistent numbers, but I only know a couple of the people who visit my blog with some consistency.
try a survey?
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