We tend to put a lot of effort into writing great content these days. But what's the point of all that hard work if hardly anybody actually reads it through to the end?
In this week's Whiteboard Friday, Dan Petrovic illustrates a new approach to writing for the web to increase reader engagement, and offers some tools and tips to help along the way.
Video Transcription
G'day, Moz fans, Dan Petrovic from DEJAN here. Today we're talking about how to write for the web.
How much of an article will people actually read?
This year we did an interesting study involving 500 people. We asked them how do they read online. We found that the amount of people who actually read everything word-for-word is 16%. Amazingly, this is exactly the same statistic, the same percentage that Nielsen came up with in 1997. It's been nearly two decades, and we still haven't learned how to write for the Web.
I don't know about you guys, but I find this to be a huge opportunity, something we can do with our blogs and with our content to change and improve how we write in order to provide better user experience and better performance for our content. Essentially, what happens is four out of five people that visit your page will not actually read everything you wrote. The question you have to ask yourself is: Why am I even writing if people are not reading?
I went a little bit further with my study, and I asked those same people: Why is it that you don't read? How is it that there are such low numbers for the people who actually read? The answer was, "Well, I just skip stuff." "I don't have time for reading." "I mainly scan," or, "I read everything." That was 80 out of 500 people. The rest said, "I just read the headline and move on," which was amazing to hear.
Further study showed that people are after quick answers. They don't want to be on a page too long. They sometimes lose interest halfway through reading the piece of content. They find the bad design to be a deterrent. They find the subject matter to be too complex or poorly written. Sometimes they feel that the writing lacks credibility and trust.
I thought, okay, there's a bunch of people who don't like to read a lot, and there's a bunch of people who do like to read a lot. How do I write for the web to satisfy both ends?
Here was my dilemma. If I write less, the effort for reading my content is very low. It satisfies a lot of people, but it doesn't provide the depth of content that some people expect and it doesn't allow me to go into storytelling. Storytelling is very powerful, often. If I write more, the effort will be very high. Some people will be very satisfied, but a lot of people will just bounce off. It'll provide the depth of content and enable storytelling.
Actually, I ended up finding out something I didn't know about, which was how journalists write. This is a very old practice called "inverted pyramid."
The rules are, you start off with a primary piece of information. You give answers straight up. Right after that you go into the secondary, supporting information that elaborates on any claims made in the first two paragraphs. Right after that we go into the deep content.
I thought about this, and I realized why this was written in such a way: because people used to read printed stuff, newspapers. They would go read the most important thing, and if they drop off at this point, it's not so bad because they know actually what happened in the first paragraph. The deep content is for those who have time.
But guess what? We write for the web now. So what happens is we have all this technology to change things and to embed things. We don't really have to wait for our users to go all the way to the bottom to read deep information. I thought, "How can I take this deep information and make it available right here and right there to give those interested extra elaboration on a concept while they're reading something?"
This is when I decided I'll dive deeper into the whole thing. Here's my list. This is what I promised myself to do. I will minimize interruption for my readers. I will give them quick answers straight in the first paragraph. I will support easy scanning of my content. I will support trust by providing citations and references. I will provide in-depth content to those who want to see it. I will enable interactivity, personalization, and contextual relevance to the piece of content people want to retrieve in that particular time.
I took one of my big articles and I did a scroll test on it. This was the cutoff point where people read everything. At this point it drops to 95, 80, 85. You keep losing audience as your article grows in size. Eventually you end up at about 20% of people who visit your page towards the bottom of your article.
My first step was to jump on the Hemingway app—a very good online app where you can put in your content and it tells you basically all the unnecessary things you've actually put in your words—to actually take them out because they don't really need to be there. I did that. I sized down my article, but it still wasn't going to do the trick.
Enter the hypotext!
This is where I came up with an idea of hypotext. What I did, I created a little plugin for WordPress that enables people to go through my article, click on a particular piece, kind of like a link.
Instead of going to a new website, which does interrupt their reading experience, a block of text opens within the paragraph of text they're reading and gives them that information. They can click if they like, or if they don't want to look up this information, they don't have to. It's kind of like links, but injected right in the context of what they're currently reading.
This was a nerve-wracking exercise for me. I did 500 revisions of this article until I got it right. What used to be a 5,000-word article turned into a 400-word article, which can then be expanded to its original 5,000-word form. People said, "That's great. You have a nice hypothesis, nice theory, but does this really work?"
So I decided to put everything I did to a test. An old article, which takes about 29 minutes to read, was attracting people to the page, but they were spending 6 minutes on average—which is great, but not enough. I wanted people to spend way more time. If I put the effort into writing, I wanted them to digest that content properly. The bounce rate was quite high, meaning they were quite tired with my content, and they just wanted to move on and not explore anything else on my website.
Test Results
After implementing the compressed version of my original article, giving them a choice of what they will read and when, I expanded the average time on page to 12 minutes, which is extraordinary. My bounce rate was reduced to 60%, which meant that people kept browsing for more of my content.
We did a test with a content page, and the results were like this:
Basically, the engagement metrics on the new page were significantly higher than on the old when implemented in this way.
On a commercial landing page, we had a situation like this:
We only had a small increase in engagement. It was about 6%. Still very happy with the results. But what really, really surprised me was on my commercial landing page—where I want people to actually convert and submit an inquiry—the difference was huge.
It was about a 120% increase in the inquiries in comparison to the control group when I implemented this type of information. I removed the clutter and I enabled people to focus on making the inquiry.
I want you all to think about how you write for the web, what is a good web reading experience, and how content on the web should be, because I think it's time to align how we write and how we read on the web. Thank you.
Video transcription by Speechpad.com
A few notes:
There are a few things to note here. First, for an example of an implementation of hypotext, take a look at this post on user behavior data.
Next, keep in mind that Google does devalue the hidden content, disagreeing with its usability. You can read more about this on the DEJAN blog—there are further tips on the dangers of hidden content and how you can combat them there.
One solution is to reverse how hypotext works in an article. Rather than defaulting to the shorter piece, you can start by showing the full text and offer a "5-minute-read" link (example here) for those inclined to skim or not interested in the deep content.
Share your thoughts in the comments below, and thanks for listening!
A very good article on the methodology of writing for the web. I think it demonstrates that there is certainly room to improve how we place content in front of people for helping increase engagement.
You mentioned in your article the utilisation of "Hidden/Expandable" content, I was wondering how this would be perceived from a search engine perspective, especially Google, whom from what I gather does not like people to hide content away. Have the changes to your content placement affected your organic traffic / search rankings?
On the whole I do agree with making the content more engageable from the outset and positioning content correctly.
Hello Tim, I was thinking about the same thing. It looks, that the content hidden by similar JavaScript functions or WP plugins is indexed. BUT it has far less weight in Google. So, I recommend to stop using any kinds of text-hiding JavaScript features, when you don´t want to hurt your SEO.
Google can run JavaScript, so the content will be hidden for Googlebot. Googlebot will see same content as user in browser with turned on JavaScript.
I completely understand, that readability of text is important. But this way seems to be wrong.
Take a look at these articles:
John Mueller from Google said: "... So if you want that content really indexed, I'd make sure it's visible for the users when they go to that page. From our point of view, it's always a tricky problem when we send a user to a page where we know this content is actually hidden. Because the user will see perhaps the content in the snippet, they'll click through the page, and say, well, I don't see where this information is on this page. I feel kind of almost misled to click on this to actually get in there. ...".
I would recommend to find another way how to improve readibility of your articles.
I have read the same thing from Mr Mueller, hence why I was thinking surely this method would have a detrimental affect as opposed to a boost from an purely SEO perspective.
So are there WordPress Plugins that do hidden text but are SEO-friendly/not JavaScript? I believe I use one that is indexable on my site because when I do a view source on the page I can see the "hidden text"
TL;DR - No.
There isn't way to be "seo-friendly" and "hidden text" at same time.
And this is described here and there and also real test over here. Test works, but on real world probably non-hidden content will outrank it. And this IS trouble if you hide texts.
PS: I was used tabbed content in past. On most important pages... :(
The Quality Guidlines don't say anything about collapsable text. You have to remember Google thinks, adapts, and generally knows what they're doing. A link that expands text via CSS is not a problem. In fact, all three of your links confirm that.
Dobrý den pane Hlavinko, as Ethan said collapsable text in CSS should not be a problem
Hey,
So I was wondering this recently. We know that hiding content is an issue withing the article body, but does the same logic apply to burger menus and side slide navigation?
Here are some examples:
https://brianhoffdesign.com/#/
https://ewebdesign.com/
I am working on a site with a vast amount of categories and products, to have them all immediately viewable is just not viable, I was thinking of adopting something like this: https://codyhouse.co/demo/mega-site-navigation/ind...
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
I was thinking about that too. It would be interesting to see organic traffic metrics for that post, before and after implementation of the hidden text.
Since I recorded the WBF my tests showed that Google devalued content behind hidden parts this is why we made a special note on this page.
Did you see "a few notes" section?
Next, keep in mind that Google does devalue the hidden content, disagreeing with its usability. You can read more about this on the DEJAN blog—there are further tips on the dangers of hidden content and how you can combat them there.
One solution is to reverse how hypotext works in an article. Rather than defaulting to the shorter piece, you can start by showing the full text and offer a "5-minute-read" link (example here) for those inclined to skim or not interested in the deep content.
Hello Dan,
Thanks for sharing. I was expected to see Rand's WBF but this episode is really interesting to me!
I have a question after checking out your blog. The Case Study part in your blog, you mention that "Google search for this phrase returns everything but Moz, despite its authority and reputation." However, the moz blog post, even though the exact query is visible by default, is still rank number one when I click the link. I wonder if you made a mistake or I misunderstand your meaning when you said "Google search for this phrase returns everything but Moz."
Thanks again for sharing this interesting research. Beside the technical SEO part, the concept of using the hypotext to prevent losing readers and increase engagement is very helpful!
There seems to be some localisation at play. In some geo locations people see Moz and in some DEJAN blog (and our copy) is first and Moz is not in the results).
Hi Dan,
I'm glad to see the expansion on this method, I know you have talked about it previously in other locations and it's good to get the whole picture.
Thanks for sharing!
Yeah this was recorded back in July :)
Thanks for clarifying this Dan, I watched the WBF and headed straight for the comments, hence missing the few notes section. I do like the idea of enabling the entire content first approach, with an option to present a shortened skim reader version should the reader want it..
When people go straight to the comments this is often because text looks uninviting or too long. They hope to get a clue or a condensed version from the readers' comments. I tested this on https://dejanseo.com.au/web-content/ (find this on page to see the example: "11 foods") and found everyone thanked me for saving their time.
Do you think Google will eventually stop devaluing hidden text when it is done using certain types of plugins? Just curious since Google makes usability one of its top priorities! Do you think they will realize user experience is so important sometimes hiding in depth content makes the most sense so those who need it can access it and those who need a quick summary or answer to their question can move quickly?
Hey Dan, thanks for an Extraordinary WBF.
We all are facing the problem of increasing engagement of visitors on the website and unluckily we're getting the same result again and again. But after a deep research, we found something which can be a very beneficial for engagement purpose and that some of the points are described over here by Dan.
And remaining other here I pointed out.
Anyway, thank you so much for sharing such a useful information.
Thanks
Very nice article, I would love to have a look of the page you implemented, can you provide a link to real page.
Thanks
@Emanuele
I was thinking the same The Link, that could be a good learning resource
Actually it's already mentioned in the end of this article. May be you didn't read the whole article like me :P
https://dejanseo.com.au/web-content/
Hey Dan,
Fantastic work done, thanks for the unique info. I would like to share something and want to give some live examples..In 2013, people here at Moz loving to read blogs and even we have seen almost posts getting boost by more than 100 thumbs up, comments, etc..Now in 2015, a post get 50 thumbs up hardly, even not more than 40 sometimes...The answer is simple, lack of interest and less time to spend behind reading long lasting blogs.
At the same time, marketers like me love to watch video's rather than reading a long 2000 words contents..Because video's are always interesting and less time consuming stuff to gain the knowledge, that's why people love to watch videos (best example success of Youtube)..
Let me come to the point, if your headline is interesting and attractive, then it will keep the reader in the first paragraph, and first paragraph decides reader will go ahead to the blog or not, so in each paragraph there should be some interesting and meaningful info that force to the reader to read the whole content...And that's what Lifehack.org do, not a single reader can leave the blog without reading their whole content...Because of the interest, uniqueness and surprises in the content...
Anyway, thanks and keep sharing such an interesting topics :)
Have always wondered about that, I noticed the same. Would be interested to hear Moz's take on why average thumbs up have been way down since 2013...
Hey Joe,
Yep, you me and many other noticed the same, wondering to get some quick response by moz on this because Moz is always a great platform for learning and I love to be here always :)
I actually completely disagree with the idea that videos are less time consuming. The stats prove that only 16% of people will read the whole article, this also applies to video - with the added inconvenience of having to dig out your headphones if you're not at home or the chance that you may get cut off if you're on the train.
The statistic of 16% of people reading the entire article is more to do with time restrictions than quality or writing style. The great thing about written content is that people CAN scan it and get the information they want. With video, scanning is not an option. Therefore, users will have to watch the entire video, whether it is a 6 second vine or a 30 minute tutorial. This can have a severely detrimental effect on user experience.
One of the things i like about WBF is that there is always a good quality transcript underneath, allowing everyone to digest the information. Unfortunately, too many video marketers are too lazy to do this as they are more worried about looking good than servicing the user. For this reason they are losing vast amounts of engagement.
@Davey_G you are correct, in some cases people choose video format and drag something on for a whole minute or more for something that should be a simple written list. Visit: https://dejanseo.com.au/web-content/ and search for "11 foods" on the page to see the example.
Fantastic, Dan! I love the concept of the inverted pyramid. And it makes sense. I'll need to rethink my wording next time I publish.
Question for you. You mentioned the example of turning a 5,000-word post into a 400-word post (on the surface). Do you know if that change impacted social sharing? On my blog, all of my articles are usually 6,000 - 7,000 words. I purposely write long articles so that I convey the perception of "epic" content. If I reduce the perceived length into the length of standard article, I worry that I will lose the "epic" characteristic of my content (and people will be less likely to share).
Though, based on your analysis, I guess you could argue that your new article might increase social sharing. If readers are spending a longer time on the page, they might be more apt to share it.
I actually have a wordpress plugin which analyses correlation between length and social shares. One some sites it's true while on others it's not. It's a variable.
Hi Dan,
great stuff. Thank you. I really get your point and I totally agree that we should make content easy to read, scan, digest...But isn't that Whiteboard Friday somehow in contrast to what you say in that article from a couple of days ago:https://dejanseo.com.au/hidden-content/ ?
Maybe you can comment on this. Thank you!
Since I recorded the WBF my tests showed that Google devalued content behind hidden parts this is why we made a special note on this page.
Did you see "a few notes" section?
Next, keep in mind that Google does devalue the hidden content, disagreeing with its usability. You can read more about this on the DEJAN blog—there are further tips on the dangers of hidden content and how you can combat them there.
One solution is to reverse how hypotext works in an article. Rather than defaulting to the shorter piece, you can start by showing the full text and offer a "5-minute-read" link (example here) for those inclined to skim or not interested in the deep content.
Hey Dan,
Great and useful article, Thanks!
Am I in the wrong thinking that in the light of you say more than the way we write we should change the way the content is presented? I am saying this because, as you say in the video, the total amount of words of your article, remained the same, what you really changed is how people could decide which sections of the article read first
Thanks again!
One idea that can combine the scanners and readers is to utilize your anchor text better within the article.
Our eyes are now trained to dart down to that blue anchor text. Moz doesn't do as well with this as they use a different font color than we're used to. That bright blue draws the eye. If you can combine this with a stat - percentages work great - then you'll keep that eye a bit more. Maybe they'll even click that link. That's now gotten the attention of Google.
Keep those anchor text locations short of text.
Allow that white space to pull the reader's eye downward, toward the rest of your article, but more importantly, to that next anchor text stat. This one will be better, won't it? It'll really draw them in, right down to your conclusion. Since the latter is written so well they can't help but comment.
Exactly. And my implementatiuon is just one way of doing it.
I was at first disappointed that Rand wasn't doing the whiteboard Friday but WOW this guy was great! More more!
*blush*
Great article and so true about how people read. I have a lot of customers ask me questions i already explained on my website. If they would just READ proper. I'm having a look at Hypothext.
Great article! This concept really struck a chord with me. As technology changes, we bring our old paradigms to a new medium. This is a perfect example. While it will take time for people to adapt to reading info online as the main source of info, publishers must take into account the newspaper reading paradigm.'
The idea of Primary, Secondary, and Deep is excellent and I have thought about using some type of popup or link to expand concepts. It seems that the CSS collapse and expand style is the best way to do this, in a search engine friendly way. I haven't tested yet so I default to the best sounding advice online.
I look forward to trying this out in a test environment and then launching it to see how it affects my bounce rate. I am one of the online readers that reads the whole article if I am interested in answering a question. This happens to be my perspective on most online searches. Sometimes I just browse but mainly I do objective oriented online searching.
I was thinking of creating pop-up boxes for terminology based info expansions and then I can have an URL of all terminologies that you can search. The idea was that each term will have its own URL as well so when I explain an internet concept, I will increase rankings for that.
As an example, instead of typing DNS (Domain Naming System) every time, I can type DNS, the pop out will give a short explanation with a link to a detailed article about the concept.
When creating an article on my Online Digital Marketing Magazine I often struggle which level of complexity I should go to. Creating these pop-up definitions with a link to the full article explaining the concept was an idea I thought up to circumvent this puzzle. I haven't yet implemented it yet because I am looking for an SEO friendly way to do this. Is anyone doing anything like this on their site, or have you seen someone doing this well? I guess it's the Wikipedia concept but ideally with a WordPress plugin or manual coding.
Hi, Dan
Very Informative post especially for me the way i follow the things slightly changed by reading your article, i will implement the things and can you provide me the link of the page you have created , it will be very useful to me
Thank You
Hello, Dan
Yes, That's true, people love quick answers, solutions. This is really interesting, I am little surprised with the given study data. Many times, visitors don't read the all things, It could be blog, FAQs or any other content of the website. I have noticed many visitors on the eCommerce sites ask questions to the live chat executives, for the things which are already mentioned on the same page of the website. Idea of hypotext could help , Thank You for this. :)
I'm someone who loves to read, but I scan the web and often drop off halfway through a blog. I think the reason people don't read everything on the web also has more to do with mind set and culture.
When I settle down to read a book, I get a hot cup of tea, snuggle down in my favourite seat and get ready for a couple of hours of enjoying a novel. I tend to do the same when I'm reading massive text books but I choose the conservatory. Then there is the smell of a book or library, and the sound a newspaper makes when you turn a page, all so comforting.
What do I get when I read on line - firstly I'm in work mode with limited time (and that's not enjoyable), I'm sitting at a desk (uncomfortable), pressing the down arrow key (boring). Even choosing a comfy spot with a lovely cuppa, isn't so comfy when you are juggling a laptop or ipad and a drink. Forget an iphone, it's just to small to see anything.
Then how many of us grew up in an environment where we were rewarded for picking up a book and reading, whereas any time in front of the TV and computer was frowned on? Even today we keep getting told being on a computer for too long is bad for our health.
So just maybe it hasn't really got much to do with what we write, especially when someone writes well, but the culture of reading hasn't evolved yet to embrace the web?
I agree with you, Christina!
Maybe the problem is in the very means of communication; that is, it hasn't got much to do with the content (which is usually great, Dan ;)), but with the reading environment. For example, I simply can't read pdfs or long documents on my PC - I have to print them out if I want to understand and memorize what I've read.
The same goes for articles - the longer they are, the less patience I have. I can't help it. On the other hand, videos are a completely different story. I can usually work on other things in different tabs while I'm listening to a video (that does not require visual attention), so bigger articles can actually be better by simply recording them.
Good read, Christina.
All the best,
VS
Fantastic idea with giving people a choice on what they want details on. You could write with a summary in mind, which is what most people want anyways, but still provide the content for the people actually looking for information. Sounds like a win-win.
Dan, Thank you for sharing.
I would be interested to know how the revised version of content would have performed in the old format? The plugin seems great, but in my experience, if you can put in the effort that you did to revise an article 500 times, it is almost certainly more engaging. Thoughts?
Absolutely, part of the success of my article was in the fact that I did make those 500 revisions. I really tried hard and excluded anything that didn't convey any information. Writing for the web is really hard.
Hypertext is a good idea, but personally I think that the black boxes are not good for design.
For large articles, it seems to me better option to use an index with links to the same article, so the reader can go directly to the content that interests him.
Yeah I've heard lots of negative feedback on the black boxes. Good news is that it's all CSS and customisable.
Hey Dan, great to see you doing a WBF.
We tested your plugin after reading your article 'User Behaviour Data as a Ranking Signal'. It took us a bit of work to get it looking exactly how we wanted it but got there in the end.
We ended up with decent user behaviour metrics and a lower bounce rate than usual.
I also have the same concerns about text being discounted from being hidden, mentioned by John Mueller. Have you done any tests to see how this could effect rankings?
If your previous article is correct, then surely user behaviour metrics would be a stronger ranking signal then if text is hidden on a page.
Keep up the good work Dan, always learning something out of the ordinary with you.
Hey, you skipped the last section of the page!!! ;-)
Check out the notes at the end of the transcript.
Great video. However, I'm curious, how do you allow your readers to further expand your 400 word article into the much meatier read?
Check out the notes section at the end of the video transcript.
Thanks Dan - Can you please provide a link to the Hemingway App?
Here you go Jeff: https://www.hemingwayapp.com/
Thanks!
Wow! A 6-minute increase in time-on-page is really impressive! I think this is a metric that isn't looked at enough as far as A/B testing for increases. Was there a correlation between time-on-page and engagement?
Well I kind of cheated... since engagement is measured (in addition to other factors) by clicks. For users to read the full content they had to click a lot on my piece :)
Hi Dan,
Thanks for these useful tips,
There is only one thing that concerns me, most visitors still might expect that an anchor link within the content might lead to another page or to completely another website, avoiding it as sort of interruption in the process of reading. Then it means that they will lose some portion of information? Or we should rely on those who are interested in the topic and more likely click on the link after all.
What do you think, will be it better to use parallax website scrolling in order to enable visitors to engage with the content, holding their attention and interest with some interactive elements, without hiding the content within the text body?
Thank you,
Great WBF Dan, I would definitely give this plugin a try. But you know hidden text would definitely be a problem with rankings, what if we hyperlink the headings to particular sections within an article. I have followed this practice and just to be on safe side I usually no-follow the links pointing within the different sections. What's your take on it?
This is a great article Dan, thanks for sharing. I often wonder how engagement rates vary across devices as people consume information differently when they are out and about on smartphones, versus sitting at a desk.
If your readers are interested in seeing examples of the inverted pyramid in practice, there is more information here: https://commsinsight.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/content-marketing-tips-1-inverted.html
Claire.
The inverted pyramid is used by journalists (like myself, back in the day!) for the same reasons you’re seeing it work here - we get one chance to capture the reader’s interest. This is even more critical with press releases (yes, some journalists/editors still receive & send them). Editors receiving hundreds of pitches a day will not read every announcement in its entirety - they’ll scan headlines & the lead paragraph (first few sentences) to determine if it’s something they’ll want to pursue. That’s why we always want the most newsworthy information first, followed by important details / context (which are only as good as your sources). With the vast amount of content every web user faces these days, we almost need to think of them as Editors and, like you said, “Remove the clutter!”
I like the idea of compressing longer content, but of course there’s the concern of the expandable text being considered “hidden” & hurting SEO performance. I saw your 25 vs. 5 minute version solution, but it doesn’t seem practical - like I don’t know if I’m going to want the shorter version until I’m too deep into the article… if you’ve captured my interest, I’ll keep reading; if I’m bored, I’ll bounce rather than click the 5 min version. Are you tracking usage of that feature?
Also, were you able to track how many expanded the compressed content areas? We all know that ultimately it’s about doing what’s best for the user, so I’m curious if your readers used/appreciated this feature. (Although I guess a ‘shorter/compressed’ page + more time spent on site indicates the feature is being used.)
Excellent analysis, Dan!
Excellent WBF! Pretty interesting to read the original post on your blog. Regardless of how often we hear the monotonous refrain - "great content always takes the cake", almost nobody ever says how to make it affordable for the target audience, more so when we don't know how much time the they've got left with them.
I always see the web as a marketplace where people come and look for the most affordable content available to them, considering they have little money (read time) left with them. Some buyers (read audiences) may have enough money left with them but they wouldn't bother spending any of it on content that doesn't look promising or credible to them from the get-go. Others simply cannot afford to buy it because the content is very expensive (read lengthy or time-consuming to read).
While producing content (or rather selling content) to our invisible target audiences, we must keep their affordability in mind. This is exactly where innovative and user-friendly UI comes in.
In that regard, this WBF offers excellent insight. Thanks, Dan!
Dan, brilliant WBF. Are you calculating bounce rate and time on page with Google Analytics' default settings? Some analytics vendors calculate those two metrics differently, and with custom tracking they could mean any number of things.
We tracked behaviour in both GA and Lucky Orange.
I don't think there's any harm in doing collapsible text and one study isn't enough for me. I believe the idea that Google might prioritize what is immediately visible, but I doubt it ignores what isn't (and can be expanded).
Still, I think I would try to use something like the HTML5 <details> and <summary> tags for something like this rather than a JavaScript fix like the plugin does. While those tags aren't supported in firefox, they're a greater guarantee that all text is easily readable. And of course, that the text won't be misinterpreted as "maliciously hidden."
"I don't think there's any harm in doing collapsible text and one study isn't enough for me."
I really hope you're right!
I carefully have read your post "If I write more, the effort will be very high. Some people will be very satisfied, but a lot of people will just bounce off." This is true fact.
In this position, I agree to put some images and videos with the content. Also think that enhance the content with some attractive point out.
Thanks for you’re sharing the post.
Love this, seems like a great way to please different parts of your audience at the same time.
The Hemingway app is a great tool. I started using it a couple months ago and have noticed a significant bump in reads/shares when I take the time to simplify my writing.
Yes interesting ideas. Thank you for this article
Hi Dan,
Thanks for the highlighting the issue we mostly experience content writer are keep writing but engagement is too low for their efforts. I am sure by adopting this new way it will help to increase the engagement. Thanks for sharing
Thank you for pointing me to the Hemingway app.
From a formal point, I find the Hypotext plugin unconvincing, mostly because of the black squares (visual clutter).
I find Dave Liepmann's approach (following Edward Tufte's book design) very elegant. For example, the sidenote approach in desktop view, and how it appears in the mobile view.
Personally, I often use Karl Swedberg's JQuery Expander plugin on blocklevel elements in conjunction with a simple "More" link to achieve a vertical expansion.
Great examples, the dotted sideline was my customisation - the CSS is completely editable and you can make it whatever you like. Original version didn't have any but it was confusing people who didn't understand how much extra text they just opened.
Hi DAN,
Thanks for this great info and behavior of the users.I am sure you must have done a lot of hard work and i really want to appreciate your hard work.I would like to differ in inverted pyramid as you have beautifully explained. My point is the rule can be beneficial for journalists only as most of the people often like to read the Head lines of the News Paper as they find there are lots of other news as well of the same news Company and they create 100 of news on daily basis but when it comes to content writing for our Blogs or service based websites, The frequency is very limited like 1 or 2 may be 5 a day.So i think we must write a detailed content always.I like the Hypothext concept Thanks :
Too long - didn't bother reading.
Haha!
The only fault of this article is that it is not written using "Hypotext".
Here's an article example which he points out using this approach:
https://dejanseo.com.au/web-content/
(in case you missed the foot notes)
Great WBF, Dan. I'm interested in trying out your plugin. Any chance it will receive an update soon so as to be trusted with the most current version of Wordpress? Thanks!
Some plugins just works and doesn't need to be updated to be trusted with most current version of WordPress.
This plugin is one of them.
I'm currently rather thin on development resources, but happy to take submissions from the community. It's open source.
Long form content is the gold standard for web writing right now, but unfortunately it doesn't encourage the reader to stay and commit to absorbing every word. Unless the article is engaging and scannable, readers can get overwhelmed with long blocks of text. Even though the inverted pyramid style of writing isn't necessarily a good fit for online writing, using some of the same principals can help hook the reader and encourage them to commit to reading more of the article. By using other web writing elements, such as short sentences, images, and even video, they will (hopefully) stay on the page even longer.
Great video, Dan!
I loved the data you have discovered, however, one thing still confuses me.
Considering the fact that writing for the web does indeed require a lot of condensed content because our readers' attention span is almost inexistent, would't that very shrinking of content lead to lower rankings? I mean, we all know that longer articles have higher rankings, so wouldn't it be better to write quality content of about 1000-2000 words length rather than boring people with a 5000-word piece of writing?
Just a thought. I may have lost some info along the way, but I'm sure you're going to forgive me. :)
Best,
VS
I think what makes Hypotext different is that it's still a 5,000 word article, but appears to be shorter. It has the expandable options to hide and display the text. Matt Cutts stated a few years ago that if this is reasonable and follows the framework of many sites, which Hypotext does, then everything is fine in the sense of hiding/cloaking issues.
Correct. The solution is to reverse the model. Show expanded but offer a short version on-click.
Since I recorded the WBF my tests showed that Google devalued content behind hidden parts this is why we made a special note on this page.
Did you see "a few notes" section?
Next, keep in mind that Google does devalue the hidden content, disagreeing with its usability. You can read more about this on the DEJAN blog—there are further tips on the dangers of hidden content and how you can combat them there.
One solution is to reverse how hypotext works in an article. Rather than defaulting to the shorter piece, you can start by showing the full text and offer a "5-minute-read" link (example here) for those inclined to skim or not interested in the deep content.
Oh, sorry, I didn't see that section!
Everything's clear now, thanks. :)
Best,
VS
This is a really good idea. I find myself among the 84% that don't read every word of a blog post, but I tend to stick around on articles that have content in more digest-able bits. I've always seen video as a way to accomplish this strategy, but the hypo-text method seems much more affordable and feasible.
Normally I don't care too much about how to generate content in the right way. But this elementary innovation how to structurize and distribute text on the web really motivates me to spend more attention to this topic. Thanks a lot.
I definitively stay tuned (not only because of this contribution)
And by the way: I believe content production is not referring necessarily to the early bird catches the worm effect to be successful. (Though it must be quite early in the US now ;-) )
Incredible read, I must say. I so want to learn more about the entire methodology and prepare such an article for self. Hope it works for me too!
Thanks! :)
Thank you for your post Dan! It´s very interesting!
Nice article on the methodology for writing for web contents. Thanks!
Welcome back - enjoyed this post and your previous Moz posts. Moz needs your voice so I'm glad you're posting more again.
With this video - the expanding text idea for keeping your long posts but giving people the option is really great. I wonder how it would be if I just "outline" my articles (Headline, Subheadlines, one or two quick sentences about each) and then expanded sections - giving that same type of choice.
I bet that sort of page WOULD perform better. Interesting though and with lots of blogs coming out in Nov. something I could definitely test. Thanks!
This is very thankful Dan! Thank you for sharing.
Very nice insights! Timely indeed. Might as well be keeping this mind when writing moving forward :)
Excellent article highlighting the key points to increase engagement. And I admit that video can be a major contributor in this area. But I recently observed that adding a quiz as content or in between the content can also lead to greater involvement. Thanks for this superb post.
Love it!!! Great solution to fix one of the web's big problems; too many words as marketers chase authority. Would be great if Google somehow rewarded pages written this way. Let's hope 'hypotext' has a bright future! PS. We need one for Drupal, pretty please Drupal devs x
Dan, I love the effects of your whiteboard images. When I am reading content, about 80% of the time I am skim-reading. 20% of the time I read word-for-word if the content is valuable and teaching me something that I don't know.
it could be a good learning resource, for me it´s a very interesting article!!!
It is a very interesting article , thanks for sharing.
When first reading this I found it a great concept and good reading. I spent some time getting my brain into the concept and thought it a great way to allow me to incorporate as much content as I could into my own site. I'm glad I didn't get carried away on the basis of this article, as by chance, I happen to find the follow up article that you created to this one on your own site.
As a suggestion I would update this article - to save others the potential grief - clearly at the beginning to show your latest results and findings! In case it doesn't happen and for those interested, a link back to Dan's own latest findings.
https://dejanseo.com.au/hidden-content/
Just 80 of 500 read an article in a website. This fact is surprising but if we think with the head cold, the reality is that if you are not very interested in the aritcle you skip or scan it to the section that you are interested in. So I think that the solution is make more visual content.
Thanks Dan - great stuff. This makes perfect scence to me. Are you able to share some real world examples. I'd love to see the pages in real life.
Dan,
Great article, I even read over 1/2 the comments :)
I have conflicting views of Google's "Hidden Text"
1) Hidden text in Google's eyes are meant to deceive in an effort to gain rankings
2) If it's readily visible in the source code w/o intent to deceive, why is that bad?
Lastly, instead of hiding the extra content, why not place it at the bottom of the article with "Read more..." anchor links and "Back to article..." anchor links. The content is still viewable by everyone by choice.
Good to see you Dan on WBF , Interesting ideas and suggestions. Thank You P.S.: Where is Rand ? :)
I'm here :-) But it's great to have some guest WB Friday presenters - diversity of content and opinion is a good thing!
When I came to the blog today, I thought you guys didn't have a whiteboard Friday. It didn't register without the picture of Rand. I restarted my browser, and cleared the cache, to see if it would come up. I actually had to click on the whiteboard Friday category below lasts weeks post before I was confronted with the reality that you had abandoned us this week. It was good, but you were missed. :)
Hi Dan,
really nice and useful post, thank you for sharing
Great content, i already use your wordpress plugin in my blog thanks
Very interesting article Dan, I a really liked, I also see a possible solution for people who do not read the whole article is to make it as you do, the video contains a lot of the same words you're using text, this also conducive to remember better the subject of the text. Thanks a lot for the tips!
Tnx 4 sharing your info Dejan. Did you ever test statistics for content and tutorials in video form ? I belive that video tutorials are much better for conversions than clasic writen blog posts.
The main thing is to consider is that you need to make a unique content for web site which not copied from any other site. So you have to take care of that. If you post duplicate content than it becomes spam.
Hey Dan,
Great WBF! everything you said was on point.
How does your plugin affect Google-bot when crawling a specific page, could you please elaborate how the plugin affects different crawlers?
Could you please share if the plugin had any effect on rankings?
They'll crawl it, but will devalue it in the rankings.
Since I recorded the WBF my tests showed that Google devalued content behind hidden parts this is why we made a special note on this page.
Did you see "a few notes" section?
Next, keep in mind that Google does devalue the hidden content, disagreeing with its usability. You can read more about this on the DEJAN blog—there are further tips on the dangers of hidden content and how you can combat them there.
One solution is to reverse how hypotext works in an article. Rather than defaulting to the shorter piece, you can start by showing the full text and offer a "5-minute-read" link (example here) for those inclined to skim or not interested in the deep content.
Nice!! Great WBF video. Thank you for the insights.
Great Topic and article! I guess if users are happy with the synopsis then I guess Google need to find a way to index that hidden data! Cause if users are happy then Google is happy?
Thanks
Ajay
I agree. If it's good user experience then it's up to google to recognise it.
To the point, valuable directions given to writers. The staggering % is alarming. Thank you for the great insights!
Excellent post Dan and the hypotext idea is a great step towards solving the problem of creating content which meets the needs of the individual reader and increases engagement.
I'm completely agree that we need to solve this issue of producing the right content at the right time for the right reader but I've got a couple of questions:
1. How will this type of content distinguish between hypertext and hypotext links easily? Will too many hypotext links mixed with hypertext links not proving confusing for readers?
2. How many versions of a piece of content would you need to produce? Is it still commercially viable for a client or will budgets have to increase for content production if we hire a content writer when they have to produce several versions of the content?
3. How does the hypotext concept differ from using accordion techniques to hide / discover related content?
Ade
Hi, Dan
Amazing post !! After long time i read full article.
Very nice article, I would like to have a look at your page, can you provide a link, that could be a good resource for us.
I Like this... Thanks for Share men.
Nice idea and definitely worth exploring. I wish Neil Patel would check this out. He keeps mailing these massive long articles which are full of good information, but they are just way too long :)
Hi Dan,
You just rocked content marketing with this White board Friday. I saw this type of plugin when I took a course of DigitalMarketers. I loved the idea. Still I have a question to you:
Can search bot crawl all content as usual after using this plugin?
Thanks in advance -
MSI Sakib
Yes bots can get to it but will not necessarily rank it all that well.
Since I recorded the WBF my tests showed that Google devalued content behind hidden parts this is why we made a special note on this page.
Did you see "a few notes" section?
Next, keep in mind that Google does devalue the hidden content, disagreeing with its usability. You can read more about this on the DEJAN blog—there are further tips on the dangers of hidden content and how you can combat them there.
One solution is to reverse how hypotext works in an article. Rather than defaulting to the shorter piece, you can start by showing the full text and offer a "5-minute-read" link (example here) for those inclined to skim or not interested in the deep content.
Excellent WBF. Have to admit that I like to read these rather than listening to the video. #IStillRead
It's really hard for this avid reader to write webpages for people who scan, skip, or look at the headlines. Your advice is very helpful to me! I'm taking notes!
Thanks!!
Did you ever measured the difference between open and closed (flip down) comment sections? Sometimes I look at a blog article, then look at the scrollbar and think "too long to read" and move on - only to find out later that not the article was half a mile long but the comment section.
That is a really good idea!
It's a shame that an article about engaging content had to be put into a video to engage
There is a choice between video and a transcript which follows.
H2, h3, bold, blockquotes and other html native resources are also nice tools to accomplish both seo and readers interest.
I am a journalist, a seo, a compulsive writers and reader. I remember to hear about the launch of USA today and its short version of content. And also a re-rise of new yorker, the Atlantic, salon and other long form 4-7k words stories.
You chose your content from your audience's behavior. You start with research, improve through analysis, adjust via testing, learn a again and again reiterating whenever needed.
But I like the plugin and the approach. If you get the results you need, it fits for your audience. Great data from your survey, also. It reminds me the feature of a HTML tag: <abbr>.
Very interesting article.
Interesting things but still not sure about how it can affect SEO of the Page.