A few years ago, I wrote a post on my personal blog about MBA courses. I have a great deal of respect for the top-flight MBA courses based, in part, on how difficult I found the business-school courses I took during my graduate degree. I'm well aware of the stereotypes prevalent in the startup and online worlds, but I believe there is a lot of benefit to marketers having a strong understanding of how businesses function.
Recently, I've been thinking about how to build this into our training and development at Distilled; I think that our consultative approach needs this kind of awareness even more than most.
This post is designed to give you the building blocks needed to grow your capabilities in this area. Think of it as a cross between a recommended reading list and a home study guide.
Personal development: a personal responsibility
I've written before about the difference between learning and training, and how I believe that individuals should take a high degree of ownership over their own development. In an area like this, where it's unlikely to be a core functional responsibility, it's even more likely that you will need to dedicate your own time and effort to building your capabilities.
Start with financial basics
I may well be biased by my own experiences, but I believe that, by starting with the financial fundamentals, you gain a deeper understanding of everything that comes afterwards. My own financial education started before high school:
- My dad used to give me simple arithmetic tasks based around the financials of his own business before I was old enough to be allowed to answer the phone (when my voice broke!)
- At college, I took some informal entrepreneurial courses as well as elected to study a few hardcore mathematical finance subjects during grad school
- After college, I worked as a "consultant" (really, a developer) for a financial software company and got my first real introduction to P&Ls, general ledgers, balance sheets, and so forth
- Before starting Distilled, I worked as a management consultant and learnt to build financial models and business cases (though the most memorable lesson of this era is that big businesses just have more zeros in the model – at a certain point it doesn't matter whether you're working with $, $k, $m or $b)
So, where should you start your financial education?
I'd begin by learning how to read a balance sheet (which will quickly lead you to a load of ratios) and how to read a P&L (profit and loss statement). From there, you can get to cash flow.
In order to take this all in, you will need to set aside some time to work through a few examples and to dig into the definitions, acronyms, and concepts you haven't heard before. These are not the kinds of post you can simply skim.
This may also be a good time to revisit some basics:
- Khan Academy is a good place to learn basic mathematical skills and MIT for the next level up
- Excel is the tool of basic literacy in the financial world and we have our own guides at Distilled that should be useful if your spreadsheet-fu is a little rusty: Excel guide and interactive Excel module in DistilledU
While working through all of this, you should be aiming to:
- Become comfortable with the language and terminology
- Understand the connections between cash, profit and assets
- Begin seeing the sensitivities in how timing, margins, and business models impact outcomes
Since all of this is pretty dry, be sure to add in some human interest by reading about business models in ‘the wild' and applying your new-found knowledge to some real-world examples. Amazon is a great place to start because of its unusual focus on free cash flow over profit (for longer reads, I also recommend Bezos' shareholders letters and The Everything Store).
Management: structures and methodologies
When you're trying to get things done, it pays to understand the context of the people you're seeking to influence. Whether you're an external consultant or embedded in the organisation, the people you're dealing with will have their own priorities, incentives, and worldview.
Above all, you need to get close to people in order to understand what truly makes them tick.
You can spend a lot of time digging into dry tomes on organisational design if you wish, but I've learned a lot of things from reading business biographies in order to understand the thinking of senior management at big business. Here are some of my favourites:
- I already mentioned The Everything Store about Amazon in general and Jeff Bezos in particular
- In the Plex (relevant to our interests: about Google) has all kinds of interesting anecdotes and management challenges
- I am a massive fan of The Hard Thing About Hard Things by Ben Horowitz that documents a lot of the interpersonal and management challenges he has seen and faced over the years
- I was recommended The Five Dysfunctions of a Team by a client-turned-friend who has led large engineering teams – its language of "conflict and commit" quickly became part of my personal thinking
- In a variety of ways, I've learned interesting things even from books that I found difficult to read or where I felt as if I wouldn't like to work for the individuals (including Winning by Jack Welch, Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson, Who Says Elephants Can't Dance by Lou Gerstner, and the epic Warren Buffett biography, The Snowball by Alice Schroeder)
Ben Horowitz
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Jeff Bezos
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The way I work is to highlight sections of a book as I read it (the Kindle is a godsend for this) and then, if I found it interesting enough, to write up a brief book report for my team. This should be somewhere between enough information to persuade them it would be an interesting read and enough to impart its key lessons.
See my write-up of "Only the Paranoid Survive".
Strategy: the interesting parts
For me, all of this forms the basics of what you need to think about the interesting parts. I'm fully aware (and glad!) that some people become specialists in the details above and enjoy working in them. For me, they serve as tools to understand and to communicate about the way that companies and markets function.
I find that the most interesting learning has elements of storytelling, timeliness, and humanity. During my university studies, I was most excited when I got to hear about theorems developed in the last few years. In corporate strategy terms, it's important to know your history, but it's also exciting to realise that we can read the history that's happening all around us right now.
In rough chronological order, here is some reading material I've found interesting recently:
- Only the Paranoid Survive is the story of how Andy Grove chose to lead Intel through the almost complete disappearance of its multi-billion dollar core business in just a few short years. See my notes
- The Innovator's Dilemma by Clayton Christensen – I've written about this before here on Moz and over on our own site
- In writing about The Innovator's Dilemma, I've talked before about the influence Mark Suster has had on my thinking. I find the vast majority of his writing very thought-provoking. I particularly enjoyed his recent presentation on Why it's Morning in VC which included some great stats about the growth in market opportunity for businesses that think ‘online first'
- For the most cutting-edge thinking about the evolution of strategy in a connected world, I haven't come across a better thinker than Benedict Evans. His newsletter is one of a handful that I read religiously
Putting it together
Different people learn in different ways, but I thought I'd close with a few ideas for more structured ways of learning:
- Work through the basics by recreating some of the analysis linked to above. Build the Excel, learn the terminology, etc.
- Read a book from the list and write a book report
- Form a study group to discuss a Harvard Business Review case
Further reading
The more you get into reading about business, the more you'll realise what a rabbit hole it truly is. I'd love to hear some recommendations in the comments section. I've also included a few more resources that didn't fit into the flow above but that I thought people might like to check out:
- MBA Mondays from Fred Wilson (I recommend you start at the end and work forwards through time). I've liberally pulled individual posts into the writing above, but there's a wealth of further information in this series
- Harvard Business Review produces an incredible amount of content, so you'll have to pick and choose, but there's something there for everyone – from written content and video, to deep financial analysis to inter-personal management advice
- I have had The Personal MBA recommended highly to me – though I have to admit that it's still sitting in my wishlist
When I first pitched this post idea to the Moz editors, they were keen that it contain actual insight itself rather than just links to a bunch of books – something I wholeheartedly support. So, I thought I'd include my notes on Andy Grove's Only the Paranoid Survive. Here you can see what I meant by taking notes and highlighting sections of a book to discuss with a group. This is a great way of digesting the ideas of a book, especially if they are particularly complex.
Andy Grove, Robert Noyce and Gordon Moore (1978)
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Only the Paranoid Survive: my notes on a business classic
Documenting his time at Intel, Andy Grove's book provides a fascinating insight into how he led the company out of the memory business and into the microprocessor business. He details his approach for dealing with what he calls "strategic inflection points" which are those times in the life of a business when its fundamentals are about to change. As he says, this "can mean an opportunity to rise to new heights. But it may just as likely signal the beginning of the end."
It's an incredible story of leadership, management, and strategy, and I highly recommend you read it (even though it's unfortunately not available on the Kindle – a criteria which is fast becoming my top priority for which books I'll read).
Written in 1996, the book looks pretty dated (in parts) almost twenty years later. But to illustrate the power of the insights from the man that Fortune magazine called "The best manager in the world", I wanted to kick off with some quotes from the final chapter of the book. These detail Grove's support of Intel post-retirement – guiding them on the changes he thought the internet would bring to their business. It highlights the value of the rest of the book by proving that he is capable of applying his theories to the future (which is always the hardest part of making predictions).
Highlighting the era in which the book was written, it starts with a section entitled:
What is the Internet Anyway?
Grove immediately lays out his stall:
I felt that the Internet was the biggest change in our environment over the last year.
And then goes on to predict a number of the disruptions that subsequently came to pass – starting with the effect on advertising:
To do that on a big scale, you have to "steal the eye-balls," so to say, of the consumer audience from where they get those messages today … to displays on the World Wide Web.
Publishing:
We may be witnessing the birth of a new media industry.
And even mobile (though he doesn't call it that):
Such an Internet appliance could be built around a simpler and less expensive microchip. Clearly, this would be detrimental to our business.
His presentation, to a group of senior managers at Intel in the mid-90s, clearly met a mixed reception – and I love how much the quotes could be an indictment of my entire career:
Comments on my presentation range from "This was the best strategic analysis you've ever done" to "Why the hell did you waste so much time on the Internet?"
Rather than just pointing out problems, he clearly outlines a set of solutions – starting with embedding the internet at the top level of strategic direction:
Intel operates by following the direction set by three high-level corporate strategic objectives: the first has to do with our micro-processor business; the second with our communications business; the third with our operations and the executions of our plans. We add a fourth objective, encapsulating all the things that are necessary to mobilize our efforts in connection with the Internet.
...and hedging with a deliberate attempt to check his hypotheses to make sure they are correct:
So I think there is one more step for Intel to take to prepare ourselves for the future. And I think we should take it now while our market momentum is stronger than ever. I think we should put together a group to build the best inexpensive Internet appliance that can be built, around an Intel microchip. Let this group try to derail our strategies themselves.
Having set the scene, rather than rehash the story itself, I want to jump to the second half of the book. Here Grove details the general lessons he learned and the approaches he has taught since his retirement as a professor at the Stanford University Graduate School of Business.
So many of the lessons concern the ways that senior managers can make sure they stay abreast of the lessons their teams are learning at the coalface. But learning the lessons are so rarely enough in themselves. Grove details a conversation he had with Intel's Chairman and CEO at the time – Gordon Moore:
I looked out the window at the Ferris wheel of the Great America amusement park revolving in the distance, then I turned back to Gordon and I asked, "If we got kicked out and the board brought in a new CEO, what do you think he would do?" Gordon answered without hesitation, "He would get us out of memories." I stared at him, numb, then said, "Why shouldn't you and I walk out the door, come back and do it ourselves?"
Knowing is not sufficient. It's clear that you still need to work up the courage to make a change somehow. Early on, Grove dedicates a chapter to the necessary methodology of gathering information from the people he calls "Cassandras" who help funnel knowledge of impending changes to senior management:
The Cassandras in your organization are a consistently helpful element in recognizing strategic inflection points… Cassandras are usually in middle management; often they work in the sales organization.
He then goes on to address two potential objections to the particular kinds of action needed at this stage – by middle and senior management. I particularly like the second part – exhorting ‘armchair quarterbacks' to get out of their comfy seats:
If you are in senior management, don't feel you're being a wimp for taking the time to solicit the views, convictions and passions of the experts. No statues will be carved for corporate leaders who charge off on the wrong side of a complex decision...If you are in middle management, don't be a wimp. Don't sit on the sidelines waiting for the senior people to make a decision so that later on you can criticize them over a beer -- "My God, how could they be so dumb?"
Continuing the theme that it's necessary, but not sufficient to know what's going on, Grove calls out common behaviour among senior people who (consciously or subconsciously) know what they need to be focusing on, but continually find themselves drawn in other directions. It reminded me of the adage that your calendar never lies:
At such times, senior managers often involve themselves in feverish charitable fundraising, a lot of outside board activities or pet projects...Frankly, as I look back, I have to wonder if it was an accident that I devoted a significant amount of my time in the years preceding our memory episode, years during which the storm clouds were already very evident, to writing a book. And as I write this, I wonder what storm clouds I might be ducking now.
In this theoretical section that comes after many of the personal stories of his own challenges, Grove lays out some mechanisms for coping with and dealing with strategic inflection points once you've seen them coming. In particular, he focuses on clarity of communication:
But when the structure of the industry changes, all of these elements change too. The mental map that you have been carrying with you all these years and relied upon in charting your company's course of action suddenly loses its validity. However you haven't had a chance to replace it with a new mental map. You haven't made the explicit substitutions about how things are done now versus how they were done before, or who matters now versus who mattered then...If senior managers and know-how managers share a common view of the industry, the likelihood of their acknowledging changes in the environment and responding in an appropriate fashion will greatly increase. Sharing a common picture of the map of the industry and its dynamics is a key tool in making your organization an adaptive one.
...and clarity of purpose:
Management writers use the word "vision" for this. That's too lofty for my taste. What you're trying to do is capture the essence of the company and the focus of its business. You are trying to define what the company will be, yet that can only be done if you also undertake to define what the company will not be.
...and he addresses head-on the obvious counter to some of his simple examples by saying that he believes oversimplification is a risk worth taking in pursuit of extreme focus:
But the danger of oversimplification pales in comparison with the danger of catering to the desire of every manager to be included in the simple description of the refocused business, therefore making that description so lofty and so inclusive as to be meaningless.
Just before we get to the final section on the internet that I started with to make my broader point about the usefulness of Grove's framework, he talks about some of the personal pitfalls of leading in the way he describes. I found these two passages to have echoes of ‘the hard thing about hard things' that I referenced above. First, leading when you can't know if you're right:
I can't help but wonder why leaders are so often hesitant to lead. I guess it takes a lot of conviction and trusting your gut to get ahead of your peers, your staff and your employees while they are still squabbling about which path to take, and set an unhesitating, unequivocal course whose rightness or wrongness will not be known for years.
...and second, the loneliness of this course:
When I started on this software study, I had to take the time I spent on it away from other things...This brought with it its own difficulties because people who were accustomed to seeing me periodically no longer saw me as often as they used to. They started asking questions like, "Does this mean you no longer care about what we do?"
I hope you've enjoyed this little tour through my ways of learning about business. I think an awful lot of learning comes down to curiosity and, in my experience, business is an endless source of fascination and things about which to be curious. I look forward to hearing your best links and book recommendations in the comments.
There’s a lot of noise in the marketing community right now about 'learning from the past' and 'getting back to traditional marketing,' and this article should really be at the forefront of that – as should ‘how to run an ethical business’ & ‘branding 101.’ Unfortunately, SEOs have created a mess so we can just learn from the past. We have to clean up those messes, retrain our minds, and change the perception of SEO.
I think the best SEO partner is one that understands the business as a whole, with a solid grasp on company financials, management, R&D, marketing, branding, comms/PR, etc. It takes a lot of time & hard work, but a great SEO marketing consultant can & should be the liaison communicating the implications of each, ensuring positive results throughout the organization – not just SEO metrics. You mentioned how, for you, “the most interesting learning has elements of storytelling, timeliness, and humanity” – I’d say the same applies to the most interesting marketing campaigns.
I really appreciate this article & will definitely be spending more time digging into all the resources you provided! Thanks for the building blocks, Will!
Will,
This was a great article. I really appreciate the structure that you are adding to an unstructured internet marketing world.
Have you guys checked out the Amazon MBA reading list. https://www.amazon.com/Personal-MBA-Core-Reading-Li... surprising that Bezos' biography did not make the list.
Two other great reads are Mark Cuban's book "How to win at the sport of business" and "Rework" by 37 Signals founders.
A great financial resource: www.investopedia.com/
Strongly advise 2 books on that list: Blue Ocean Stragtegy & On Competition (or any of the Michael Porter books--). Porter came up with famous 5 Forces Model that I'm sure most undergrad business and MBA's are familiar with.
This was one of the most necessary posts on Moz. It's great that we all learn and participate in the SEO community but it's so narrow. SEO is such a small portion of what businesses do that it's good to think beyond our little bubble sometimes and into the bigger picture.
Thanks for all the great resources. I agree on self-education. I'm obsessed with it and wish everyone on my team was dedicated to becoming the best they can.
I agree with you Matt. Diversity will bring more juice in the content and may increase the interest of end user/visitor.
Great article! Thank you for all the references and good reads! Knowing the financial clockwork and the business strategy is often a good idea to keep it all on the right track.
I appreciate the general shift towards the nuts and bolts of business that I'm seeing within the community in general. While there's a lot of room in the pool for everyone now, there won't be in the coming years. It's the people and agencies that know how to run a business that will survive when the easy money dries up.
Far too many jump into the industry with little more than; "Because internet, LOL!" The banzai approach may be just fine in the beginning, but eventually an individual or an agency has to face the realities of a traditional business.
Will, this is a great post -- I'm so happy that traditional business and marketing is getting addressed more and more in the digital space. In addition to your points on financial analysis and management, I just wanted to throw out a few thoughts on traditional marketing. There's so much that we can learn from how marketers operated for decades (or more) before the Internet existed.
I was lucky because I had happened to do my (most of) my MBA in Boston and Israel between my (prior) journalism and (current) online-marketing careers. A lot of what I learned in the MBA's marketing courses is relevant today for one simple reason: the Internet is largely just another set of communications channels.
As I wrote (disclosure) in an essay for the agency for whom I work, here's the general communications process:
Sender -> Message -> Content --> Channel --> Receiver
Strategic positioning and messaging (#2) is always used -- whether it's in a traditional advertisement or in the meta title and description in search results. Content (#3) has always been the "stuff" that marketers and salespeople put in the hands of prospects. Yesterday, it may have been brochures; today, it may be e-books. There are just more and more online and offline channels (#4) from which to choose. Basically: a sender decides upon a message, the message is packaged into a piece of content, the content is transmitted via a desired channel, and the channel delivers the content to the receiver.
Of course, it's a bit more complicated than that. I'd look at Wikipedia's list of marketing terms as a good start. There are other terms that are not included there that are important as well: unique product quality, the 4 Ps, SWOT analysis, and a lot more. I'd highly suggest that online marketers find a cheap, used Marketing 101 college textbook and read it cover to cover. Here are some good next suggestions. I'd add "Groundswell" too.
For example, I'd learn more about the principles of good marketing copywriting and forget about the old "SEO copywriting" garbage -- that was always a horrible term, anyway. I'd also learn the principles of public relations -- because that's what most "link earning" techniques such as "content plus outreach" really are. (Here's a Moz post of mine on PR 101.)
Here's the reason: Many people here probably got their start -- like me -- in "SEO" years ago by learning how to audit and fix technical website issues and then "build" links. But what I've seen happen over the years is that more and more traditional marketing principles are becoming crucial. In fact, I'd argue that we should become more like traditional marketers -- the only difference being that we work in the Internet channel(s) as opposed to, say, the TV, radio, and print channels.
"SEO" is becoming just good "digital marketing." And as more human activity moves to the Internet, "digital marketing" will become just "marketing."
One of my first roles was actually as an SEO in a full service Advertising agency, so I was dealing direct with print media, TV, Outdoor advertising teams and trying to cross sell SEO as a service. Now this is 8+ years ago and don't get me wrong things were VERY difficult back then. It was more a process of training the teams up to they first "understand" what you actually even do/ offer before you can look for collaboration offerings. I think it was senior management at the time looking for ways in which they could bring on new talent and offer a specialized service.
I think what many SEO's lack is the skill to break down complex issues and put them into layman's terms for wider marketing teams.
The biggest positive digital marketing has over Traditional marketing is the ability to track most channels effective, with TV, Radio, Billboards ect it is all guess work and estimation. SEO & Digital we can prove ROI far more effectively.
James, exactly -- great point on digital's use of analytics! In contrast to what many marketers claim, what is now called "outbound marketing" is not dead and will never be dead. "Outbound" and "inbound" both have their uses.
Inbound -- Great an fulfilling demand and (usually) good at proving results and ROI. (Though no analytics system is perfect in a multi-screen world in which people may be exposed to a brand on many different channels before deciding to buy.)
Outbound -- Great at generating demand via PR and advertising and more. If no one, for example, is searching for a product or a solution to a problem, then that can mean that no one knows that it even exists. So, I'd often use "outbound" in such a case.
Love the article Will!,
One of the many things I like about our CEO is that though he understands that we need to do more digitally in terms of preparation, yet he has uncanny insights into the nuts and bolts of making money in the real business world.
This greatly enhances my understanding of things we need to to digitally to meet the business goals.
Superb article, I would also advise folks to read "stripped bare" and "screw it, lets do it" both by richard branson. They are both inspiring but also informative, telling of the mistakes he made from day one and how he learnt lessons and is today one of the worlds richest people with a global business empire. - truly inspiring books
Hi Will,
This a great post for people who love to read. The books you have mentioned are a great way to explore the business world. Reading books lost its charm for some time but I believe now its gaining back its importance and being an MBA I would emphasize on reading as many business references, case studies and Bios as possible as they inspire as well as educate an individual with real examples of the real world. I would also like to recommend studying series from John Kotter, specially "Our Iceberg Is Melting: Changing and Succeeding Under Any Conditions".
Thanks
Great article! Thank you for sharing all the references.
Hey Will,
Thanks for the post!
I've been doing SEO / PPC professionally for about 5 years now and I'm looking to make a switch to a more PPC specific role. I'm finding that I just do not have the math or excel skills to manage large brands in AdWords. I can handle smaller accounts fine. I'm willing to go back to school to get this math / excel skillset, but I'm not sure if MBA is the program I should pursue? Should I just start with some excel classes and see if that gets me where I want to be? I'd really like to just focus on the financial aspect of business.... I'm just choosing PPC because that's what I know. Your advice is highly appreciated!
I think that going back to school is probably overkill for Excel skills - there are some great resources online - you might like our Excel guide for example: https://www.distilled.net/excel-for-seo/
Regarding the broader math / business skills, it depends a bit where you're starting from, but if you have the basics and are prepared to put in the time, then starting with self-directed study is a great way of working out what you *really* don't know and also what you're really interested in.
Good luck!
Thank you for this comprehensive guide. The references that you mentioned are all big names. To grasp the whole, I should still read a second time, but the focal points are very easy to understand!
Will, you posted the following above:
"The more you get into reading about business, the more you'll realize what a rabbit hole it truly is. I'd love to hear some recommendations in the comments section."
We will be announcing the yin to Gerstner's yang on Tuesday. His book you recommend above, Who Says Elephants Can't Dance? has a new balancing perspective: A View from Beneath the Dancing Elephant: Rediscovering IBM's Corporate Constitution. You should have my e-mail from this post and I will send you either PDF, EPUB, Kindle or paperback at your request.
I just thought I would make that rabbit hole a little bigger! Let me know what you think. ;)
You can read the preface, how IBMers helped design the cover and their reviews here:
https://www.beneaththedancingelephant.com/a-view-fr...
Cheers
Pete
Thanks Pete. I'd love to get a kindle copy (my email address is easy to find). Appreciate the recommendation.
What a great resource! I especially like how you have included biographical and personal reading links. I do not know of many experts who offer such well thought out lists. In regards to self-development: Are there any specific offline or online resources that you absolutely do NOT recommend to marketers (i.e. you consider them a complete waste of time). Additionally, are there any free university online resources that you recommend to those pursuing an MBA? I ask because I have noticed that many general and business-focused universities now offer free online courses for anyone to access. I really believe that a list of your favorite ones would also be useful
Thankfully I'm a Chartered Accountant turned SEO, part of an accountants training is to understand a business and the teams/people within it.
But that takes a lot of time and effort, which isn't always possible for the small business owner.
Oh how I would love to spend a life time learning and reading.
Great article Will!
I received my MBA three years ago and to be honest, I was a little disappointed at first with the results. I had all these academic accolades but everyone in the job market wanted full-time experience. After learning various theories about business management, marketing strategies and tactics, and in depth courses on accounting and advanced statistics...skills that I thought would be very valuable...I came out with an MBA and job offers at the same level as the job offers from undergrad.
I don't want to bash on MBAs though, I really enjoyed my time there as I love reading, studying, and learning from historical evidence (similar to what you said above about case studies). That passion and drive for knowledge has not ceased since getting my MBA, it is something inside of me that I yearn for and something that will never go away. Now, what I love about my MBA is that it does set me apart (now)...especially now that I have a few years of "full-time" experience under my belt. I've been able to apply theories and statistics in my jobs and show the value of my MBA.
Cheers and good luck to anyone looking to pursue their MBA.
Till today i was assumed to be an MBA, a person must be capable to manage the things first, this is the first time when i got to know about the Financial Statistics. The angle of my thinking is quite changed after reading it. Its experimentally true.
Will - a worth reading article.
That was full of information and helpful...But I was expecting lot more thoughts on Robert Noyce. I think he is the man (Mayor of silicon valley) behind all those big inventions and had tremendous management skills above all of his team player:Traitorous eight.
Thanks for the post Will!
It's great to see some articles like this that don't necessarily fall in the typical inbound marketing genre. I am a third of the way through my MBA. I do it on the weekends and maintain my job as an SEO. The financial skills you are talking about have helped with progression in my organization as it has trained me to work on the business as a whole and not just in the business as an SEO. I have learned things in my organizational behavior classes that won't directly influence rankings, but will help our team work more efficiently and more effectively which will benefit our clients. . Having the technical (SEO) background with the management training (MBA) should make a very employable individual. At least that's the hope!