Earlier this month, I was standing on an 8,000’ pinnacle of the Sierra mountain range at the precise moment when winter arrived.
A few miles and minutes back down the highway, it had been golden fall with aspens, oaks, and big leaf maples in peak color. Then the sky darkened, showering hail. Right before my eyes, hail turned to snow, wildly whirling, salting the evergreens into obscurity.
Winter had come.
It’s a rare, exhilarating thing to witness patient Nature change in the blink of an eye, but returning to work from my time in the mountains, I met with another sudden change – one that took me by surprise, even if it shouldn’t have: the Google Places API had stopped delivering Google+ Local page URLs and was rendering Maps-based URLs, instead.
If, like me, you’re a Local SEO, you’ve learned what Google is like this in the space we call our work. Overnight, familiar packs change, crazy carousels appear, branding upends, functions disappear.
And you’re the one who has to explain all these shifts to your clients and co-workers.
I’m hoping this article will make it a bit easier for you to do so. With Google+ Local pages all but invisible to the public now, here’s how to describe the features you work with and the value of the work you do.
What's the Google Places API? What happened to it?
Google describes this API as drawing from the same database as Google Maps and Google+, and it’s part of what powers tools like Moz Local and Michael Cottams’ Google+ My Business Page Finder. Plug in a query and the Places API previously returned direct links to the Google+ Local pages of millions of businesses. These URLs looked like:
https://plus.google.com/102761177822287678547/about
Now, the same queries return a Maps-based result instead, the URL of which looks like this:
https://www.google.com/maps?cid=7676087051067575200
While this in no way detracts from the usefulness of a tool like Moz Local, it does prove that Google is definitely, absolutely parting Plus from Maps and it means we Local SEOs have to walk a new talk. It just doesn’t work anymore to tell clients that they need a "Google+ Local page."
This comes as no surprise if you’ve been following the ongoing industry discussion of the gradual removal of visible Google+ links from nearly every Google interface. Likely you’ve already started trying to use new terminology in talking to customers, but if you haven’t, the sudden sea change of the Places API URLs is a clear signal that it’s time to do so.
What do these changes look like?
In the recent past, you were telling your clients that they needed a Google+ Local page, powered by their Google My Business dashboard, and looking something like this:
Because SERPs and tools are no longer returning Google+ Local pages, like the above, clients and users are unlikely to ever see these anymore and may not even know what they are. Instead, right now, they’ll mainly be seeing one of two different interfaces when searching for a local business.
Interface 1: The Local Finder Knowledge Panel
A typical local search — like "sporting goods store Denver" — will bring up a 3-pack like this, with a link at the bottom to click for more places:
If you click that link, you’ll be taken to what is commonly being termed the "Local Finder" view, with a list of businesses on the left and a map on the right. Click on one of the businesses in the list and you’ll get a Local Finder Knowledge Panel result on the right, like this:
Interface 2: The Maps Knowledge Panel
Instead of going through the 3-pack, this is the interface I now see being reached via both branded searches and tools that use the Places API. It's also the interface you'll reach if your search starts in Google Maps instead of in the main search display. Let’s look up "Dick’s Sporting Goods Denver" (or set your location to Denver, provided that’s still working for you):
This brings up a branded result with a clickable teardrop icon (note, no link to Google+) on the left and a SERPs-based knowledge panel on the right. Click on the teardrop and you’ll get to the Maps-based knowledge panel:
This interface contains the business name on a blue background, the rest of the NAP below, as well as additional information.
So, in sum, in addition to the now-familiar in-SERPs knowledge panel you get for many branded searches, you now have the Local Finder Knowledge Panel and the Maps-Based Knowledge Panel – at least, this is what I’m calling them, but you might think of something better! And, of course, the panels and packs may have special features for restaurants, hotels, car dealerships, and the like.
Making it as simple as possible for clients
The main thing to convey to clients is that all of these different displays have the majority of their origins in just one place: the Google My Business dashboard. That’s where they need to get their NAP right, add their photos, set themselves as SABs or brick-and-mortars, and all of that other stuff you’ve been doing for years. If the client can get it right there, this data will feed all of the various interfaces.
Signals of claiming?
It used to be easy to tell, at a glance, whether a business listing was claimed or not. The checkmark shield would appear next to the business name on the Google+ Local page. Unless I’m somehow missing it, I am not seeing a checkmark shield on any of the newer interfaces. However, I did come across something in the Maps-Based Knowledge Panel that may be of assistance. There appears to be a "Claim this business" link on some of the panels I’ve seen in the past couple of weeks, and my guess is that this is now our indication that the business hasn’t yet been claimed.
Still want to see a Google+ Local page?
Okay, even if no one else is still seeing these, maybe you’re feeling a bit nostalgic and just want to take a look at a good ‘ol Google+ Local page. Here’s how to do it:
1. Sign into your Google account.
2. Perform a main engine search structured with quotes like this:
"site:plus.google.com" "dicks sporting goods store" "denver" "about"
That will get you to this:
https://plus.google.com/102761177822287678547/about
There could be reasons you’d want to do this. Those of you who specialize in duplicate listing detection may already be figuring out how to use these commands to be able to continue surfacing those pesky duplicates — but let’s keep that for another post, written by someone more wizardly than me in that department.
Head hurting over all these changes?
Yeah, I know. I find it helps to take a short hike – maybe up in the mountains nearest you. In the meantime, it can help to remember that, as the Local SEO in your agency, you bring your greatest gifts to both team and clients in being the one who's on top of all of these shifts. Mike Blumenthal puts it this way:“Google’s rate of change is so many times greater than the rate of adoption that no SMB has a clue what they should [be doing] with Google these days."
Whether this bodes well for Google’s ultimate future, I won’t comment, but I do know it ensures that Local SEOs will have a vital seat at any marketing agency table for some time to come. So, put on those snow chains and keep churning up this road. Your dedication to research and study will continue to fuel your greatest value.
Nice post Miriam (and good screenshots). I think it's important to point out while you shouldn't simply tell clients, "they need a Google+ Local page" It is important to stress Local page optimization. What you edit in your dashboard will show up in those search results, so quality pictures, accurate business hours/contact information, appropriate categories, etc. The way Google is presenting the information is different, but the same optimization rules apply. If someone clicks through to the website (since it is a bigger button now), make sure the landing page you're sending them to is likely to convert. Have contact info/driving directions, products/services, and a reason for them to get excited about spending their hard earned money with you over a competitor.
I'm sure Google will change the layout a few more times before SMB's get used to the way it is now, so enjoy the ride :)
Absolutely, Eric! That's just what I meant about the GMB dashboard feeding the various interfaces. You've put it very nicely, and I agree with you that we should expect future changes. For sure! Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Thanks for the great and as always very clear post Miriam.
And thanks for linking to 2 of our forum discussions.
You know me, the dupe queen - have to pipe in about how to find them now. I didn't even think about it affecting Moz.
But we've all been discussing and experimenting at the forum with various ways to find dupes now that Michael Cottam's tool no longer shows us the G+ L page.
A tool called Pleper works to a degree. It works like Michael's with the API, so also stopped showing G+L links also. But the developer reads my forum and saw all of us struggling with the issue, so programmed in a way to extract the CID and create the G+ L page link. So that tool now returns both the straight maps link that the API delivers and the G+ L link, like Michael's used to.
However important for Pros to know, with any API tool, it filters results that are very similar, just like Google search does.
So big long detailed post short - here is the best way to search for dupes now, including practitioner listings.
“plus.google.com” “999-999-9999” “about” “review” (need to get review in there so it won't show you G+ pages or photo pages. (Then should also check with "name" "city" instead of phone and "Keyword" "address" for others using different names or phone #s.)
But then the IMPORTANT part. Google always filters very similar results in Google search AND with the API.
So at the end of the query string you need to add & Filter=0. Then Google will show you other results that might have previously been filtered. (That filter tip is courtesy Joy Hawkins.)
So in the example I used yesterday Pleper and Michael's tool only found 2 listings, but there were really 4 - Google just filtered out 2 of them.
(Note all of this is mainly important if you work with Attys, Drs and Dentists or other industries that have practitioner listings OR industries that tend to be aggressive and spammy OR have NAP problems and may have additional listings out there. Mainly it's important for ranking troubleshooting, as dupes are often the root of the problem.)
Wow, Linda! Thank you very much for this awesome explanation. How did I know you and Joy would be figuring out the secret duplicate sauce even while I was writing this post! The Filter=0 tip is great and it's very generous of you to come share it here. I'm sure it will be helpful to many! Thanks for being the 'dupe Queen'!
I have actually found one spot where Google prominently promotes my Google+ page - in my ads. I have 1000+ followers on my Google+ page, so in some of my Adwords ads I still see that I have "XXXX followers on Google+" and a link to my business Google+ page. This is an "automated extension" and it gets about 1 click per day. This comes from linking my Adwords to GMB.
Hi Sandy!
Is this something you are seeing logged into your GMB or Adwords dash? On the public side, logged out of Google, clicking on the teardrop or address of Adwords ads is taking me to the Maps-Based Knowledge Panel - not to a Google+ or Google+ Local page. Curious about what you are seeing and I'm glad you're taking the time to share this.
Miriam - this is an excellent and very timely post - so thank you! I'm one of the lucky ones with this change - I'd been implementing local SEO via the various Google+ Local incarnations for my client, a SME in a highly competitive market (holiday home rental in Abruzzo, Italy. Their key target market is Germany). This space is taken up by big brand / listing sites (e.g. fewo-direkt) and there is little opportunity for a small business to achieve organic visibility (other than for long-tail queries and so on, and even then it takes a lot of effort).
I'd seen Google Maps as a vertical search opportunity, because location is a key contributor to holiday purchase decision and part of an informational search. Therefore, I'd optimised the client's Google My Business (and copy) for the crudest money term - 'Ferienwohnung Abruzzen' ('holiday rental abruzzo').
Following your post I've just conducted various test searches (non-personalised, DE) and it looks like my client has the number 1 organic spot! I'll have to do some more investigation (including mobile etc.) but it looks like this will be a great opportunity to start using GMB more strategically (e.g. to generate reviews and ratings - they currently have none). Definitely looks like a GREAT opportunity for some landgrab :)
I'm just delighted this sparked some new ideas for you, Simone. That's wonderful. Thank you for sharing what you'll be doing for your client! Sounds like they are lucky to have you.
that was not a fun day, I'm lacking in mountains too! I'm super curious what is around the corner as this still feels like its going to shift again to me.
Hey Chris!
Sorry about the lack of mountains. Rivers, lakes, hills and trails apply, too :)
What you say rings true about the feeling of future shifts on the way. It's curious - I've been working in the Local space for about a decade. In those early years, it felt like Google changes were gradually spaced over relatively long periods of time. Maybe there would be 3-4 changes a year, such as a guideline update, or a change in the prominence of a type of local pack. In the past few years, it feels like Google has put their foot on the gas pedal, tripling or quadrupling the rate of change. It's actually pretty exhilarating - but a little dizzying, too.
Thank you for the article Miriam! A wonderful one :)
You are absolutely right about that if you have "Claim this business" link the business is unverified. All other claimed business listings have "Suggest an edit" instead.
For example:
https://goo.gl/maps/KmvZ9F21WVs - unverified
https://goo.gl/maps/sLqQwEkdnzM2 - verified
I would like to add something to Linda's comment:
I think there is a misunderstanding with the following:
"So in the example I used yesterday Pleper and Michael's tool only found 2 listings, but there were really 4 - Google just filtered out 2 of them."
Already have the chance to use Pleper(however as a registered user) and the solution for this is to click on "Find duplicates for this place". It makes more and different searches and pull many other listings, some of which are not duplicates but on the address, in close distance or have similarities.
Ultimately, looking forward to new updates from Google ... as usual :)Thank you again for the article!
Hi Val!
Thanks for further research regarding Pleper features. You and Linda should chat about your discovery with this. I know she'd value hearing about the 'Find duplicates' functionality. A side-by-side study of Pleper results vs. the query string results would be be very cool! Really appreciate you taking the time to share your experience with this tool.
No I knew about the find duplicate feature but the part I forgot about that Stan pointed out yesterday is that I actually used different queries, so it was not an apples to apples comparison either. Was half asleep and in a rush when I wrote the comment above. Sorry about that.
Haha - that's okay, Linda. Maybe you and Joy can put your heads together and do a side-by-side of duplicate detection using query strings vs. Pleper. See if they both turn up the same number of duplicates? As if you didn't already have about 200 things to do!
Oh oh I can help with something like that : )
Everybody manage some places and already know if there are dupes or not. I can add those places to the demo account in Pleper, where everyone have access and can compare if something is missing.
All this can be made absolutely anonymous. I've made two documents in titanpad.
One for places to be added in Pleper ( https://titanpad.com/yZ9OWpDLI5 ) and one document where comments on the results can be left and compared (comments if something is missing/newly found ) ( https://titanpad.com/kuPWPsx4TV ) ...
All I need are volunteers :)
+1 : ) You can count me in. Sounds reasonable.
What a nice offer, Stan! Please, come back here and let us know what you find out. It's a great idea!
I can understand why Google keeps changing, but with each change they are losing trust, and smaller businesses are wondering why they should put any effort into different Google products when the life expectancy seems to be so short.
Good Morning, Christina - that is definitely a problem when a product changes too quickly and too often. Very hard to keep up, and for the small business owner going it alone, a real challenge to keep up with the shifts while running their company. I totally empathize with that! I think the SMB's best friend in this case is the amount of free education that is out there (on blogs, fora, etc.). If the owner can devote even an hour a week to visiting good Local SEO resources, they will be doing more than some competitors in working to stay current, but I know it can be hard to squeeze even that hour into their schedule. Good points, Christina!
Oh yeah Miriam - great article and knowledge. - thanks Miriam!
So happy you enjoyed it, Michael! Thanks for letting me know that. I appreciate it.
Very good article. This will help me to promote my website. Thank you.
Hi
Love this post. Learning so much.
I have a (rather maybe silly or maybe its so obvious) question. How does my result show up in the maps? Is it picking up keywords from my dashboard/Introduction? Or a combination of other things? Or categories? Labels?
I work for a Currency Exchange company catering for mainly business FX transactions and large transfers, which when people search " Currency Exchange Sydney", I do not want to be shown up with/linked to Travel money exchanges (like travelex etc). Is there a way to ensure I get listed for more corporate currency transaction?
Thanks.
Hi May,
There are multiple factors that contribute to Maps rankings - some say 200+. A good place to start considering the different factors is our annual Moz Local Search Ranking Factors survey: https://moz.com/local-search-ranking-factors
You must have a physical location (not be a virtual business) that makes in-person transactions with customers. You must have a Google My Business listing and be sure it is properly categorized. You can read more about this at Google:
https://www.google.com/business/?gmbsrc=us-en-ha-s...~bk-5mil-u&ppsrc=GMBS0&gclid=CI33osaF3MkCFYI7aQodcaECLw
And here are Google's guidelines for listing your business: https://support.google.com/business/answer/3038177...
Hope this gets you off to a good start.
The Google Places API are improving the ecommerce and the physical commerce, because the shop's visibility is bigger using this tool in your website. If you have a commerce you must to include it in your website.
Hi Miriam,
Great article, simplifies a lot!
I'm just wondering, do you think this makes getting reviews for SMBs more or less important?
Hi Rachel!
While the importance of getting reviews hasn't changed in any way (it's still very important), isolating a review link to share with customers has just gotten much more difficult. Fortunately, there are solutions. Check out this thread over in our Q&A forum, including some links I shared with a community member:
https://moz.com/community/q/with-new-google-layout...
Hope this helps!
So should we wait for them to change it back? Google has a nasty habit of reversing things that make it mor difficult and confusing to end users.
Interesting that the plus pages only show from a structured search, where as if you click on the links provided in the article above they 404. How long before they close G+ down all together along with every other social experiement they have so far tried.
It's a good idea to use Google's products to their fullest potential, and that includes Google +. Google's reasoning for making changes may seem mysterious, but the sooner we adapt to the changes, the better! While it's important to use tools like this for local SEO, the basics still won't change. On-site SEO, content marketing, and social media will still form the core of any SEO program, local or otherwise.
Hey Nick!
Thank you so much for taking the time to read. At this point, Google+ has become of questionable value, though Google My Business is still going strong, but you are so right that core marketing efforts remain the same. Very good point!
Still makes no sense to me why Google is not making it's own product more visible. In any case, here's an easy way to find G+ pages: enter the name of the business along with the words "Google+" in the Google search bar. Loved the article.
Thanks for sharing a tip, Bonnie! Glad to hear you enjoyed the article.
I guess they are taking away G+ in near future.
Oh man I can't help but to love this, "Your dedication to research and study will continue to fuel your greatest value."
Glad that appeals, Mark! Thanks for taking the time to read.
Very good article.Thank you.
Thanks for minimizing the confusion Miriam. I'll echo what Eric stated, the important information is still being presented in the Knowledge Panel and Local Finder, its just presented differently. Clients still need a GMB Page and need to fill it out completely in order to have their information displayed correctly.
The writing has been on the wall for some time for G+. Soon it will go the way of other G projects and simply be a memory.
Hi Brian!
Yes, this is what has become confusing and what I hoped to clear up in this post. There isn't really a 'page' anymore of any kind that human users are going to be taken to by any common types of searching in Google. There is the GMB dashboard which then fuels pack results and a variety of knowledge panel displays. So, yes, the GMB dashboard is now the focus to promote to clients, letting them know that it's what's in there that is going to show up all over the place for their business. Thanks for taking the time to read and share your thoughts!
Hi, great post!
Google is always trying to improve the user experience, perhaps this way is faster and intuitive research about local businesses.
congratulations for the post and greetings from Spain
Thank you for an excellent post. The Google Places API are improving the ecommerce because the shop's location is very important. Local business needs to get their NAP right, add their photos using Google My Business dashboard.
Just search 'business name Google plus' and you'll also find the page. For example 'LocalSurch Google Plus'.
This is a great sum up of what actually happened. it one thing being clear in you head but to get it all down is another. Great wrap up thanks.. Has helped me loads
Thanks for the message Miriam , I think it's very clear and very well explain everything.
Hi Miriam,
Thanks for the informative post. I've been noticing that links to Google+ pages are becoming less and less prominent and SERPs and this post wrapped up the changes nicely!
“Google’s rate of change is so many times greater than the rate of adoption that no SMB has a clue what they should [be doing] with Google these days." - Truer words have never been spoken : /
Just search 'business name Google plus' and you'll also find the page
It's really interesting Miriam
it's simple to understand, good luck
Yes the core values remain the same, all optimization needs to still be done on GMB in order for it to reflect properly. However Google decides to display it doesn't matter as much as how you still get ranking for that query. Great article and very informative.
Thanks so much, Julius! Awfully glad you found this informative!
When I'd like to see a g+ business page, I click on all-ratings, a user who rates it and there it is, clickable... that still works in germany, but I guess not for ever. I saw some other - not working - results wich show me all (by that user) ratet locations in maps.
Yea, we lost that functionality in the US about 2 or 3 weeks ago -- to my annoyance. Now I'm back to having to search within G+ for pages and we all know how poorly Google returns its own results within G+ search...
What should we be doing with our content posts? Forget about it, or keep posting to our business' Google+ brand page? Do we care about brand pages anymore?
Hey There!
Good question. I recommend reading this post from Mike Blumenthal regarding this, and don't miss the comments, in which I asked a question very much like yours and Mike responded with a good answer: https://blumenthals.com/blog/2015/05/19/google-knowledge-panel-messaging-gone/