Penalization has become a regular part of the search engine optimization experience. Hell, it has changed the entire business model of Virante to building tools and services around penalty recovery and not just optimization. While penalties used to be a crude badge of honor worn by those leaning towards the black-hat side of the SEO arts, it is now a regular occurrence that seems to impact those with the best intentions. At Virante, we have learned a lot about penalties over the last few years—discerning between manual and algorithmic, Panda and Penguin, recovery methodologies and risk mitigation—but not much study has been done on the general response of websites to penalizations. We have focused more on what webmasters ought to do without studying what webmasters actually do in response to various penalties.
How webmasters respond matters
As much as we often feel a communion among other SEOs in our resistance to Google, the reality is that we are engaged in a competitive industry where we fight for customers in a very direct manner. This duality of competition—with Google and with each other—plays out in a very unique way when Google penalizes a competitor. We learn a great deal in the following months about the competition, such as the sophistication of their team (how quickly they respond, how many links they remove, how quickly they recover), their financial strength (do they increase ad spend, how much and on what terms), and whether they eventually recover.
It is also important from a wider perspective of understanding Google's justifications for particular types of penalties that seem sweeping and inconsistent. Conspiracy theories abound regarding Penguin updates; I can't count how many times I have heard someone say that penalties are placed to encourage webmasters to switch to AdWords.
So, I decided to investigate the behavior of webmasters post-Penguin from a macro perspective to determine what kinds of responses we are likely to see, and perhaps even answer some questions about Google's motivations in the process.
The methodology
- Collect examples: I collected a list of 100 domains that were penalized by Penguin 2.0 last year and confirmed their penalization through SEMRush.
- Establish controls: For each penalized site, I identified one website that ranked in the top 10 for their primary keyword that was not penalized.
- Get rankings and AdWords data: For each site (both penalized and control), we grabbed their historical rankings and AdWords spend from SEMRush for the months leading up to and following Penguin 2.0
- Get historical link data: For each site (both penalized and control), we grabbed their historical link data from Majsetic SEO for the months leading up to and following Penguin 2.0.
- Analyze results: Using simple regression models, we identified patterns among penalized sites that differed significantly from the control sites.
Do webmasters remove bad links?
After a Penguin 2.0 update, it is imperative to identify and remove bad links or, at minimum, disavow them. While we can't measure disavow data, we can measure link acquisition data quite easily. So, do webmasters in general follow the expectations of link removal following a penalty?
Aggressive link removal: It appears that aggressive link removal is a common response to Penguin, as expected. However, we have to be careful with the statistics to make sure we correctly examine the degree and frequency with which link removal is employed. The control group on average increased their root linking domains by 41 following Penguin 2.0, but that could best be explained by a few larger sites increasing their links. When looking at an average of link proportions, only about 22% of the control sites actually saw an increase in links in the three months post-Penguin. The sites that were penalized saw a drop of 578 root linking domains. However, once again, this statistic is impacted by the link graph size of the individual penalized sites. 15% of those penalized still saw an increase in links in the three months following Penguin.
So, approximately 22% of domains not impacted by Penguin 2.0 had more root linking domains three months after the penalty, while only 15% of those penalized had more root linking domains post-Penguin. Notice how small the discrepancy is here. Webmasters responded differently only by 7% depending on whether or not they were penalized. While certainly those penalized removed more links, the practice of link building in general was very similarly affected. In the three months following Penguin, 78% of the control websites either dropped links or at least stopped link building and lost them through attribution. This is remarkable. There appears to be a deadening effect related to Penguin that impacts all sites—not just those that are penalized. While many of us expected Penguin to have a profound impact on link growth as webmasters respond to fears of future penalties, it is still amazing to see it borne out in the numbers.
What I find more interesting is the variation in webmaster responses to Penguin 2.0. Some penalized webmasters actually doubled down on link building, likely attributing their rankings loss to having too few links, rather than being penalized. We can tease this type of behavior out of the numbers by looking at the variances in percentage link change over time.
The variance among link fluctuations for sites that were not penalized was .08, but the variance among sites that were penalized was .38. This means that the behavior of websites after being penalized was far more erratic than those that were not. Some penalized sites made the poor decisions to greatly increase their links, although more sites made the decision to greatly decrease their links. If all webmasters responded uniformly to penalties, one would not expect to see such an increase in variance.
As SEOs, we clearly have our work cut out for ourselves in teaching webmasters that the appropriate response to a penalty is very much NOT adding more and more links to your profile, because this behavior is actually more common than link removal post-penalty. It is worth pointing out that it is possible that the webmasters disavowed links rather than removing them. We do not have access to that data, so we cannot be certain regarding that procedure. It is possible that some webmasters chose to disavow while others removed, and that the net impact on link value was identical, thus making the variance calculation false.
Do webmasters increase their ad spend?
I'll admit, I had my fingers crossed on this one. Honestly, who doesn't want to show that Google is just penalizing webmasters because it helps their bottom line? Wouldn't it be great to catch the search quality team not being honest with us about their fiduciary independence?
Well, unfortunately it just doesn't bear out. The evidence is fairly clear that there is no reason to believe that webmasters increase ad-spend following a Penguin 2.0 penalty. Let's look at the numbers.
First, across our data set, no one who was an advertiser prior to Penguin 2.0 stopped advertising in AdWords in the three months after. Of the sites that were not advertisers prior to Penguin 2.0, 10% of those not penalized ended up becoming advertisers in AdWords, while only 4% of those penalized became advertisers. Sites that weren't penalized were far more likely to join the AdWords program than those that were.
It wasn't only true that those unaffected by Penguin 2.0 were more likely to sign up for AdWords; they increased their average Ad-spend, too. There was a 78% greater increase in ad-spend by those unaffected by Penguin 2.0 than those who were. Moreover, bidding shifts for those not impacted by Penguin remained similar in two month intervals across multiple randomly selected three-month differences, meaning that there appeared to be no related impact whatsoever.
We can safely conclude from this that there does not appear to be a direct, causal relationship between Penguin penalties and increased AdWords spending. Now, one could of course make the argument that better search results might increase ad revenue in the future as Google attracts more users to a better search engine, but accusations of a fiduciary motivation for releasing updates like Penguin 2.0 cannot be substantiated with this data.
Do they recover?
By the 5th month, approximately 24% of sites that were penalized were at or above their pre-Penguin 2.0 traffic. This is an exciting outcome because it does show recovery from Penguin is possible. Perhaps most important, sites that were penalized and removed links on average recovered 28% more traffic in the five months after Penguin than those that did not remove links. We have good evidence to suggest at least a correlation between post-penalty link removal and traffic recovery. Of course, we do have to take this with a grain of salt for a number of reasons:
- Sites that removed links may have been more likely to use the disavow tool as well.
- Sites that removed links may have been more SEO-savvy in general and fixed on-site issues.
- Sites that did not remove links may have had more intractable penalties, thus their lack of removal was a conscious decision related to the futility of a removal campaign.
These types of alternate explanations should always be entertained when using correlative statistics. What we do have good evidence of is that traffic recovery is possible for sites hit by Penguin, although it is by no means guaranteed or universal. Penguin 2.0 needn't be a death sentence.
Takeaways
So, in a few weeks, we are likely to see another Penguin update, assuming Google follows its late-spring release date. When Penguin hits, be ready—even if you aren't going to be penalized. Here are some things you should be doing...
- Know your bad links already. There is no reason to wait to be prepared for removal or disavowal. While I personally think that preemptive disavowal is likely the best practice, there is no excuse to just wait.
- Don't worry about AdWords. There is no statistical evidence that your competition will surge post-Penguin in any meaningful fashion. The competitors who might come to depend move on AdWords also have less organic revenue to invest in the first place. At best, these even out.
- Don't double down. While we can't be certain that link removal gets you out of penalties (it is merely correlated), we can be certain that even a correlation doesn't exist for increasing links and earning recovery post-Penguin penalties.
- Never assume. The behavior of your competitors and of Google itself is far more complex than off-the-cuff assumptions like "Google just penalizes sites to force people into AdWords" or that your business will know intuitively to remove or disavow links post-Penguin.
Hopefully, this time around we will all be more prepared for the appropriate response to Google's next big update—whether we are hit or not.
I think that big impact is Takeaway #1 "Know your bad links already."
One day sites with links to you are ok, on next day they become toxic. And if we add here unwilling to cooperate webmasters or slow responses from them. I feel that we enter into Wild West but we're shooting each other with disavow links.
Its a cruel, cruel world. I guess, on he flip-side we need to embrace nofollow links - no harm can come from those beauties.
or competitors with negative seo... good link is "natural" link in google eyes. it's a matter of anchor not placement I've noticed.
agree - I can see that webmaster usually disavow and after that they start asking questions...
disavow all and then do linkbuilding with the same types of sh*tty backlinks disavowed earlier:)
Just like when it comes to linkbuilding, the power to mobilise links is important, so is being able to control the removal/adjustment*
*Or speed up the process, which having a list of dodgy links to hand with contacts definitely will.
Hi Russ,
These are nice points you make but I am not sure regarding the Adwords point.
I know of one UK based children furniture retailer who started investing heavily in Adwords once her website vanished from the SERPS due to Penguin. The retailer had a healthy revenue model so she could afford to put in the amount. Another retailer actually wrapped up their business online and started selling on eBay instead. In both cases the clients simply said that they don't want to invest any money on fixing their websites from the Penguin penalty as Google could change their algorithm any time and their website could be penalized for something else in the future. The first client used to spend a very small budget on Adwords where as the second one did not use Adwords at all. After Penguin penalty both these clients proceeded to paid solutions.
I think most e-commerce websites must have gone towards Adwords or other paid options as they need to support their business and they cannot afford to wait.
You could also add another point asking website owners to regularly check the back links in their GWT panel so they can rule out any negative SEO by competitors.
Hi Adeel, thanks for your comments. I am looking to re-analyze the data with a longer horizon. It is possible that the first 3 months the websites are attempting to use SEO to fix their problems and might not resort to Adwords until later. I will publish the results if they prove different from what I have concluded here.
The company I work for didn't resort to Adwords for some time (about 6 months). But once we did our Adwords spending went up 10 fold and is solely spent in an effort to get some of the SERPs that we were obliterated from. We're a primarily ecommerce shop.
Great Post Russ, really in-depth analysis on the subject.
Where you mentioned "by the 5th month, approximately 24% of sites that were penalized were at or above their pre-Penguin 2.0 traffic." which is a promising sign that if you do it right, you can get back to normal eventually.
But i wonder where you could get in 5 months with a fresh domain implementing SEO the right way. I wonder which of the two would be more beneficial, i guess it depends on the client but I'd say 3/4 of businesses with a Penguin penalty would be better off starting fresh with a new domain.
Also the problems i have faced in the past are webmasters that know their sites are terrible for SEO, charge you to removal the link, which is just ridiculous, so you have to resort to the disavow tool.
Exactly! By the 5 month mark, we've recovered a lot more than 24% of our client's sites - including those we start new. Good observation!
I don't have so much domains to analyze but my time av is about 2.5-3 mo.
Fair question. What we recommend to our clients is to look at the number of links they have to remove vs. the number of links they would have to build. Is it easier to get good links switched or get bad links removed?
Yeah that's a good suggestion, i mean if a link profile has more good than bad it is most likely not going to be affected by Penguin anyway. Through my personal experience, i would say good links are easier to be switched, because the webmasters are more active and care more about quality content which benefits their users rather than spammy quantity.
Ryhs, you say this:
But i wonder where you could get in 5 months with a fresh domain implementing SEO the right way. I wonder which of the two would be more beneficial, i guess it depends on the client but I'd say 3/4 of businesses with a Penguin penalty would be better off starting fresh with a new domain.
I can tell you which would be more beneficial, trying to recover the site. Google confirmed very recently that they "reserve the right" to MOVE penalties (algorithmic and manual), to new domains. So frankly, as someone who does a lot of penalty auditing, advising the client to MOVE to a new domain to escape the penalty is not something I usually recommend. And it certainly is NOT an advisable strategy in 3/4 cases, that's WAY high.
You also assume that the client would be implementing SEO the right way yet if they triggered the penalty in the first place it would seem a naive assumption that they would "suddenly" get it right the second time. That's certainly not been my experience. If the content and link practices were piss-poor on the first domain, it's most likely they will make those same mistakes on the second domain. You can lead a site owner to the best practices faucet, you can't make them drink.
Just my two-cents, but I'd rather spend a year trying to recover the site (which is common for Penguin recovery since refreshes are around every six months) and then have the site owners supplement lost traffic with Adwords and paid campaigns, then tossing everything away for a new domain/site which pretty much only tells Google you're "ducking" the penalty. If Google can know something, it's best to just assume they do, and that will include the footprints of your new site.
Fair points. I think we can just come to this conclusion using the numbers. Creating a new site would require new content / design to separate it from the old. That costs $$. But so does removing links and so does going a N months without sales. Just sit down and figure out the math.
And what about domain history? Getting new website on new domain is easy way but only for those who don't care about brand... There's way out from all penalties but in 99% was caused by seo company sometimes described by themselves "experienced":)
Better start on fresh domain and what next? Doing the same link building which causes penalty?:) I'm strongly recommend NOT to give up and do the hard work. Or if You don't care about Your brand...
Common problem is when client has penguin 2.1 penalty he thinks I'll get rid of bad links and he'll jump into top10 like he was before. They must get new links in a replace because lifting penalty isn't the same job as link building. Of course not every site has very large number of bad backlinks but if I select 90% it's almost impossible to get back.
Small % of customers understand this.
In my whole career in SEO, various sites I were handling at start got hit by Google`s different Algorithm updates. So What I learned is that, build links in a way that Google never catch you are doing SEO.
Be natural in SEO and Link building. Bad links are only caused by over link-building and expecting that you can get 1st position in just few days.
Wait is better than getting penalized.
Interesting stuff, thanks Russ.
What do you think is good practice in terms of deciding which links to remove? I have seen clients panic (understandably) after a penalty and perhaps set the bar too high on links - hence removing some that were actually very good links (and in many cases were actually sending traffic).
Have you seen any cases where you think over-jealous link removal has succeed in removing the penalty but also may have lowered ranking potential by simultaneously removing beneficial links?
Personally, I generally advise to seek a nofollow for the higher quality links instead of removing them altogether, at least this way they can still send traffic. Interestingly I also find webmasters are more willing to do this, perhaps because asking for removal is effectively saying to them "I think your site is spammy and is bringing my site down"...
Any link that brings traffic should definitely be nofollowed instead of simply removed. However, we do have limited resources so often it is better to do a complete amputation, if you will, than be too careful in removing links.
Couldn't agree more Russ. It's better to prune the questionable links ENTIRELY away (usually at the domain disavow level) then it is to nit and pick between specific links that "may" be sending some small amounts of traffic but have so many toxic indicators they just do not pass the sniff test. As Matt said, "take a Machete, not a scalpel" to your site when formulating your disavow file for Penguin.
Great article, lots of fantastic takeaways.
Hey Russ,
You raised the good points, I just like to add one thing from the Adwords point of view.
You're right, majority of the businesses who got the penalty tends to move towards the Adwords or increase their current budget. One of the US based E-Commerce furniture client put forward this theory,
"We're penalized, but why should we bother to remove links aggressively. Instead, increase the Adwords budget, play on more competitive keywords and increase the Quality Score. We'll be there once again."
This sounds ridiculous to me but it's becoming a common perception now. Business owners needs to understand the fact that best way to not get penalized in this time is to go through to the link evaluation yourself.
Good work Russ,
Cheers!
It seems you have done a brief research on the topic. It is handy for all SEO's. Many web owners do not agree to remove the url they have put in their site and ultimately we are forced to used disavow tool.
Well said, Russ, and I completely agree with takeaway #1. I worked with a client recently and although he didn't have a manual action in his Webmaster Tools account, I suspected Penguin (due to heavy-ish exact match anchor text usage in his inbound links, the efforts of previous agencies) and moved to disavow/remove the links right away. Even so, if I took on a client with neither a manual action nor a suspected Penguin penalty, I'd still be inclined to disavow/remove those types of links anyway, because you never know if Google's going to lower the threshold and penalise sites who even have a teeny-tiny bit of dodgy-looking anchor text usage...
Funny thing I've noticed: not very small number of people thinks hummingbird is a kind of penalty (just look on freelancer jobs websites)
But some people haven't learn anything: got out and got back because they thought they were safe and "new backlinks" meant "new" not "better".
I also see backlink profiles with 70% exact match anchor.
Many of them external - follow - in the footer of a page and the rest are questionable bookmarks and directories.
And thats no fun, they rank well to the anchor of course - but how long....
Its "OK" when your brand is just not important for, but I do not want to have such a Backlink profile - not for me or my clients...
Funny is they think I remove penalty and they will get back to top10 without getting new links. For example to delete/disavow is 85% and they WANT to see top10 again. Of course sometimes they get back but that's not common. Also (from my experience) they want me to get new links but please... that's linkbuilding not lifting penalty:)
Recovery is really hard if you've been hit by Penguin. You have to wait until Google trust your site again and crawl your site, with the disavowed links included.
You can speed up this process with new and better links. Hard but possible.
Nice point on the aggressive link removal. I think a lot of webmasters run out and disavow or remove tons of links before they truly understand what happened. Excellent post, very informative.
Removing the bad links is the best way to recover from penalty and also focus on onpage factor. Create links from thematic websites to increase popularity of website which helps to increase ranking in Google.
There're more rules You have to keep eye on. Not only "thematic websites" but anchors too and add some value.
Hey Russ,
Why do you think Google would want webmasters to "try to remove some links first" before they submit the whole lot of bad links within the disavow file? Is this some sort of, "do it because we tell you to, and you can't not do it" policy from Google's end?
Regards,
Anatalia
One of the biggest myths is that if your rankings go down, you need to spend more on adwords. This is not true guys and you need to understand it. If data facts show that you have been hit by Google Penguin, please do a backlink analysis or hire an SEO expert to do so and never do guess work as to which link is ok and which is bad. If you disavow good links then your rankings will go further deep down.
Hey @Russ, I forgot to thank you for sharing it.. :)
Great read Russ. The number of penalized sites is increasing by the day, sadly.
Thanks for sharing your insights and research.
Thanks to "SEO companies": quick and cheap...
Great research done. but i have a query regarding recovery from manual penalty. what if any one took too much time to remove penalty (Like 1.5 yr). Will that site be able to gain its earlier ranking in SERP. If yes how much time it will take or If not, can you the possible reason not not getting ranking.
Hope i won't be disappointed.
Thanks.
Very disappointed to see no response about my query. :(
check email
that's good suggestion remove bad links.i miss first part but thanks for sharing this post.
brilliant and deep insight..lets hope the webmasters are ready for Google's next Penguin update that is expected soon.
Interesting post, about disavow links, i tried many times for my sites but no results, i choosed link per link of bad quality, but unfortuantly google don't consider it, so how i can remove this bad links i contact some websites but there are many i can't contact them. Or i let them like that and start to get new backlinks with quality.
Sorry for my english
Sending requests is complete waste of time because the lower quality of website, the harder to contact to its webmaster. Maybe You haven't selected all neccessary? Get rid of them and in replace get better backlinks but "better" doesn't mean only high pr/tr/mr/pa/da...;)
Nicely planned research work Russ! Researches like these are sure worth keeping.
Generally the factors that actually exist in the SEO world can only be figured out through studies like these. I must also say that it is very nice time to have released this study as webmasters are expecting an update soon and recently Matt also talked about the same myths in his video.
Each webmaster reacts differently before post and pre- updates even if they are hit or not. This is very obvious as all of us try and play more safe during the hot season of updates. Our strategies would also differ depending on the measure and type of penalties implied on the sites and need to consider various parameter to determine our planned variation.
Me and my team also recovered from such a penalty for a client with some good SEO practices mentioned above and maintaining the good to bad link aspect ratio.
I'm really glad somebody took the time to try and see how the SEO community - as a whole - responds to penalties like Penguin. Clearly, some SEOs and their teams overreact, some under react, and others have absolutely no clue what they're doing.
Russ, I like your Takeaways/TL;DR at the end. Sounds like taking down links and using the disavow tool is common among sites that recover, but I find it really interesting it's not necessarily a 1:1 correlation. Would be interesting to see a follow-up on this post in the coming months.
Great post Russ!
"I collected a list of 100 domains that were penalized by Penguin 2.0 last year and confirmed their penalization through SEMRush."
How did you come up with these domains? If you care to share that is.
I've been keen on the idea of a preemptive disavow list that people could be uploaded to avoid any so called negative SEO or possible algo penalty.
Cheers,
Chipper
I culled them from "winner/loser" lists on the web regarding Penguin 2.0 and then confirmed traffic loss via SEMRush.
In reading your comprehensive article, I asked myself the same question cnicodemus. Thank you for revealing the trick and tools :)
Penalties have been a great fear for online businesses. I completely agree with Russ that we should take steps with patience in mind. Hasty decisions might spoil more things.
Makes sense. Are you talking about actual penalties? I received one months ago, have tried aggressively to remove links (I've removed about 2500 out of 5500) disavowed nearly all the rest (another 3000) and still can't get the penalty removed. Most webmasters don't respond, so there's little hope of removing the other 3000. And traffic keeps dropping.
In a situation like this, what else can one do?
What did You expect? Deleting and disavowing almost all so the remaining links aren't strong enough to get You back to top10 or rise in serps. Or You had wrong selection (no offence).
And I don't care about sending requests. Results? The same - penalty lifted but most important is link analysis and kw classify.
why we work hard to make our websites rank on google search, and then after that we find at least 3 first rich people who can pay rank on top of the best SEO master????? google must not place ads on that position, who is with me??
Up-till Now I am Successful to get two websites out of Google Updates both were penalized with similar reason irrelevant link building, It is not a head Ache It Is beautiful Challenge to SEO now what you can do?
I Will Like to Share Some Good Effective Basic Strategies to Get your websites Out Of Penalization with out Purchasing a Penny they are as follow:
1) First step is too improve your content.
2)Second Improve Your URL Structure, be specific with Title meta description and URL
3)Remove All Irrelevant Links. Try to build more relevant good backlinks
4)Improve your Social Media Profiles Integrate Different social media together it built T factor.
5)Try to get Involve with targeted customer via Social Media.
this are some basic points which can help you a lot Google will take least 2 -3 months and you will be back :)
And @rus Jones Enjoy SEO :D
...and they're on support google pages too.
so from Penguin can remove bad link ?
er... could You write more?
I have site that I have been working since last 2 months, Yesterday I checked the site ranking that was go down, so how can I improve the actual position. Please reply me I am waiting for your answer. Thanks
in your profile you have the job title SEO Manager and you ask these kind of questions?
hmmmmm...
comon thumb down? I didn't mention that you start your linkedin profile with this:
As an experienced SEO professional with a passion for everything related to search, keywords and analytic [...]
of course you can go to QA Question, but I really think you should learn the skills you say you allready have. Maybe its a problem with the foreign language but I don't think so, because:
- 2 month
- 1 ranking check
- 0 idea what to do now
The thumbs down is likely because the comment, while it may be accurate, wasn't very TAGFEE in nature, as it lacked a bit of generosity and empathy.
OK - accepted
I saw it many times. "experienced" but without proofs.
and the trust in SEOs is get lost in the shuffel of these types of great SEO Managers
Hi Fahim,
I think the correct place to ask these sort of questions is the Q&A section