Is your website hurting because of over optimization? It's a question every SEO faces at one time or another. Over optimization penalties have been around for awhile, but Matt Cutts recently announced Google will soon crack down harder on sites that take SEO to the extremes. How do you know when you've gone to far? In this week's Whiteboard Friday, we explore what happens when certain SEO techniques stop delivering value, and when you should switch your strategy to more productive activities.
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Howdy, SEOmoz. Welcome to another edition of Whiteboard Friday. My name is Cyrus. I'm an associate here at the world-famous SEOmoz, coming to you from the Death Star Studios. Have you ever seen the Death Star Studios? I'll put a picture in the post below. Not as cool as Rand's personal bat cave, which only five people have ever seen, but it's still pretty cool.
Today I want to talk about over-optimization. I spend a lot of time in the SEOmoz Q&A. I see a lot of people asking questions which indicate that when you're beginning your SEO, you have a tendency to maybe take the optimization a little too far. This is becoming really important today. If you've been doing SEO a while, you've seen over-optimization penalties sort of creep into the algorithm over the past couple of years. Two weeks ago Google announced, through Matt Cutts, he kind of let it slip in a conference that Google was going to start cracking down even harder on overly-optimized sites, sites that use SEO a little too much in an effort to sort of level the playing field. So this is what I want to talk about.
When you're just getting started in SEO, and we've all been there, we've all done this in every one of our - at least once - to any website. You're starting off, and let's say this is your Google Analytics and this is your traffic, and you start learning SEO. You start optimizing the title tags. You fix your 404 errors, and your traffic starts increasing. Then you start getting into more nitty-gritty. You get your canonical tags just right, you decrease your overly long URLs, and after a time, your traffic instead of increasing, it starts to level off. Your ROI, your return on investment for the optimization that you're putting in sort of tends to taper, and you're not getting these dramatic results anymore.
When you're just starting out, I believe there is a huge dividing line between the beginner SEO and the intermediate SEO, and that line is found right here. When you start reaching those diminishing returns on investment, the beginner SEO will just keep pounding away at it. They'll just keep optimizing and optimizing and optimizing, and they get a little bump in their traffic or a little decrease and it fuels them like a slot machine, like they're winning or they're losing. They just keep playing that game without creating any new value to their website. A lot of times you hear from beginner SEOs that, "Oh, you know, I don't want to create new content because it's a small gardening site for my local gardener, and there's not really much content to create, and I can't build links because no one wants to link to my content. So I'm just going to keep playing with the title tags to try to fool the search engines into sending more traffic."
But today with these over-optimization penalties on the way and the fact that these tactics not only are low ROI, but the penalties can make them negative ROI, that by over-optimizing, you're actually going to see a decrease in your traffic. We've seen these for a while, a lot that we are familiar with and a lot that we can guess at.
One of the most common over-optimization techniques that you want to avoid obviously is keyword stuffing. There are a lot of places that you can stuff your keywords that we are familiar with, in the text of the body, in the images, in the navigation links. There are three in particular that we see that Google seems to pay a lot of attention to when done in combination, and that's the title tag, the URL, and inbound anchor text. When all three of those are at harmony with each other on a really over-optimized basis, we tend to see a decrease in rankings. That's just from personal experience, not scientifically based by any means. But in this example, if your title tag exactly matches your URL and you have a huge amount of inbound anchor text, say 80% of your anchor text also matches those two things, you're probably over-optimized. You're probably doing a little too much SEO to that site, and it does not look natural.
The other areas of over-optimization that you want to avoid are your linked profiles. We've particularly seen this in the past few weeks with Google cracking down on linked networks, low quality links. They announced that they are going to be devaluing more administrative links. By administrative links, we mean sites that are related to each other. So if you own a network of 50 sites and you're interlinking all of those to each other, the value that you are getting is over-optimizing. They are going to be diminished, and you could face a penalty. If you do it too much, you could face de-indexing, like we've seen Google do with the linking indexes. Also, going back to the low value links, the directory links, the comment links, you want to balance link profile, because any technique that you take too far is going to be over-optimized. You're going to get diminishing rate of returns.
Now, if you're beginning SEO and you want to advance to the intermediate SEO, right here I urge you to make the other choice. Don't go to the dark side. Don't go the over-optimization route. Go with the light side. Choose new creation. If you're beginning SEO, if you want to make this jump to intermediate SEO, the best thing you can do to get high ROI is start creating content today. Starting today, create a content calendar. If you look back in the archives of this blog, go back to like 2005, 2006, you'll see what Rand did when he was here basically by himself.
Rand Fishkin had a content calendar that was every single day, 2005, 2006. Not all those posts are groundbreaking SEO masterpieces, but that guy wrote every single day, and he built this blog into what it is now. Now you don't have to write every day for your content calendar, but set a schedule and stick to it, whether it be daily, weekly, or monthly. When you do that, you open up all these new areas of SEO that you haven't been exploring when you're over- optimizing.
The first thing you're going to do is create all these new long-tail opportunities. So here your ability to rank is just for the same 10 pages, 100 pages, 1000 pages of your website. You're never creating any new ranking opportunities or new long-tail opportunities. You're not building those for yourself. With the content calendar, you're now an intermediate SEO, you're creating all those new opportunities every day when Google crawls those pages.
You're also creating new freshness. I did a blog post a few months ago about freshness factors. When you add new content to your website, you're giving Google all these freshness signals that say, "My site is still relevant. It still matters. Crawl me more, index more of my pages." And just by having that freshness, you'll see this line increase. That is a high ROI SEO activity. But also when you create new pages, you kind of get a double freshness benefit because you have the opportunity to link back to your old material, your old, stale, 10-page, 100-page website. By creating that new content and linking back to yourself, you're telling Google these pages are still relevant. Yes, they've been on my site for 5 or 10 years and nothing has happened to them, but they are still important. I want you to crawl them. I'm linking to them now. It's not as strong a signal as external links, but it still gives you that opportunity.
Finally, back here you weren't creating any links because you didn't have those link assets. Who wants to link to your sites? This gives you the opportunity to create those link assets, to build the content that people want to link to. If you're coming into an old website, if you're taking it over, they are your client and it's just something that is unattractive, this gives you the opportunity to create something that people actually do want to link to. This will take you from here to here.
That's it for today. Tell me what you think in the comments below. Thanks, everybody.
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In my Opinion over optimization is anything that is in a way repetitive and eventually looks unnatural to search engine. I mean if you keep changing the title tag by shifting the keyword backward and forward or if you are adding your targeted keyword thrice in the URL (3 times in a URL is just an example) or if you are stuffing the body with your keyword will considered to be over optimization.
I also believe that links from external resources pointing to my website should contain variation, if most of the external resource point to my website with a single keyword that gives a good hint to Google that links are not really natural.
In my opinion 2 things should be considered as important in order to stay away from over optimization and that are “diversification of Anchor links pointing to your website” and “Creating fresh contain that contain value to users”
Good Whiteboard Friday!
Hey Cyrus! Thanks so much for this...I've found that I've got to the 'stale mate' point in terms of results with websites a lot and not been able to find away to get past a certain level of rankings/traffic etc. This post has 'shown me the light' so I'll give the content calendar a go and see what happens!
Thanks again :-)
Great WBF. Yes, again and again... it was in the beginning.. and it is still now... Content is King! The only hard part is trying to make the customers understand that... It is always difficult..
I 2nd your advice, "If you want to make this jump to intermediate SEO, the best thing you can do to get high ROI is start creating content today." As a small business owner doing my own website, the ROI came by 1st cleaning up my site by doing basic SEO, then moving on to adding content.
Over time adding quality targeted content continues to pay by attracting decent links, more visits from the search engines and making happy visitors, many of whom become paying customers. I am not sure I would call it HIGH ROI, but it is a solid investment. FYI, I have found that an informative site really helps our reputation in the market place.
PS. Your "freshness factors" in the 2nd to last paragraph links to the image, not the article – not sure that is what you intended.
Great WBF! Thanks so much for the heads up!
Excellent WBF. Cyrus, this would be an awesome topic for a future webinar. :-)
Fantastic post. It definately helps solidify my recovery strategy for sites that have been penalized. I am getting a lot of new clients from the recent Google smack down.
Great post Cyrus. Stop over optimization; start creating content is one of the best strategy ever to bring traffic and increase the users loyalty.
Great post. The basic message - Create good new content and stop the over optimaziation.
I operate in Real Estate so most of our keywords are highly competitive. We have actually had better rankings when everything didn't match. i.e. the H1 tag and url were similar but the inbound link was a variation on the previously used keyword phrase.
Great post, but I'm not sure Matt Cutts ever just lets thing slip at conferences -- in the sense that he inadvertantly discloses info.
What Matt does is announce things at conferences -- in his very own Googly way.
Yes, it reminds me of the "Fed Watchers" only in the SEO industry it's the Google Watchers. At least Matt Cutts expresses himself more clearly and more publicly than Alan Greenspan used to.
Nice post. It's all about ROI and new content relevant is the ticket. Thanks.
Cyrus this is amazing, i better get my content calender set right now! Always good to learn best practices since the recent google penalities, i wonder is the only thing that matters now is onsite; like you suggested new content, freshness singnals etc -- is the offsite linkbuilding strategies won't matter much? or have little value now?
Great WBF Cyrus!!! However, I am still confused about over optimization. Is using keywords in URL and meta data counts for over optimized website and have negative effect?
However, I agree that content is the most important things now-a-days..
Great WB as usual! You talked a lot about linking to your old content from your new content, how do you handle anchor text for these internal links? Say you have 1 very old page and you have linked to that page in 10 different "newer" blog posts, would it be considered over optimization to use the same anchor text in this instance?
There is no doubt the fresh valuable content is good for people and SEO. The one thing you forgot to mention is trying to tie in your content to a hot topic - just like you did with over optimization which is a hot topic right now.
Also I want to give a big thumbs up for Whiteboard Friday - by far my favorite feature of SEOMoz.
This is really helpful post. I consider myself an intermediate SEO and love when I hear that kind of simple and easy to consume SEO advice. It only sounds easy though. Yet we know that good things come to those who work hard and creating great content is a hard work.
p.s. this is my first comment on SEOMoz as I just registered. I don't know why, but I was kind of scared to join the SEO discussions around the web...till today ;-) happy and excited!!
Vassi - thanks for jumping in and congradulations on your first comment. Glad to have you!
hmm, moderately worrdied now about our site, does this mean all our pages with the A report cards are now over optimized...
The report cards don't actually show you the anchor text for the inbound links and according to the writer if you've hit an 80% in keyword specific inbound links then you've over optimized. I personally use the report cards RELIGIOUSLY!
Great post Cyrus, fruitful whiteboard friday advise for SEO's to take another look to their SEO strategies.
Great post Cyrus..
We tasted this stragegy for our several sites. Like we were optimizing some static sites without adding new content or values as these were some static business sites, and at some point the time traffic became static and we are trying to push hard but the traffic stats were not increasing than we decided to implement the blog section on the sites with wordpress and scheduled weekly posts there where we started sharing related things and after 2 months there were around 9-10 new post and what we see is our traffic started increasing day by day and we started getting traffic with the long trail search words those we not even targeted on the site.. So this became our regular practice and I would recommend this.
Awesome, glad your experience validated this! Good luck in your SEO.
Great post. I really like the idea of a content calendar. I know I try to update my blog on a regular basis, but sometimes, I look back and it's been a week since I've posted, and I have to think of an idea on the spot. Setting out a calendar and planning ahead not only ensures you're going to be posting regularly, but prevents you from being caught off guard, and having to think on your feet, which in turn will make your posts more well-thought-out and engaging.
One of the tips from LinkLove this year was by Rhea from Outspoken Media, basicalling pushing the idea of a calender for both your own scheduling but also for coming up with ideas. IE What important dates are coming up in the future that are somehow related to your niche? Mix that in with properly timed content shares (Timely.is) and the rest should occur on it's own.
Cyrus,
This was a very good Whiteboard Friday video and I appreciate the advice. I am a brand new SEO and have been basically living on SEOmoz because I want to be able how to learn to do things the way that they should be done in as whitehat a manner as possible.
I think posts like this are a wonderful resource for a beginner like myself and especially as over-optimization penalties will only be getting stronger. My boss at the company I am working for is also very whitehat and it helps to be able to learn from really smart people who want to do a great job above the board (like yourself).
I have commented on other posts about keyword stuffing and I really think it is the main thing you have to fight as a brand new SEO. The problem is wanting to do a good job but not necessarily knowing all the really good nuances of SEO. I love SEOmoz because you all really reinforce the fundamentals, even when posting stuff about more in-depth topics.
Anyway, I am excited to continue to become more involved in this community and become a more capable SEO and I think posts like this are invaluable to that growth. So, thanks again
Cyrus,That's one of the easy to follow and implelment and important WBF !! One thing which I have got in mind for sure i.e. The Over optimization is little bit tricky to identify!! Thanks to you for letting us know about the real difference between over optimization and general natural optimization!! The Freshness factor is nodoubt , very important factor and that is the reason the Newsites ,blogs are much loved by the SE's!! Thanks Cyrus, Thumb up to you!!
Hi Cyrus. You have made some great points. But one thing which did not completely convince me is that how can a website be categorized over optimized if they have same title as their domain/url and 80% odd links pointing to them with the same anchor text.
What if a website is a brand? There you can find mostly the above mentioned cases. Consider seomoz itself, it does have seomoz in the title and I am sure more than 50% of the inbound links would be by its name as anchor.
Excellent point - Brand names seem immune to this type of penalty - of course, they would have to be. That said, I am not alone in observing this penalty. Just refer to this Jim Boykin interview by Aaron Wall on SEOBook this week: https://www.seobook.com/jim-boykin-interview
In the interview Boykin distinguishes between phrase based penalties - of they type we're discussing here - and entire site penalties. Quoting Jim:
"A phrase based penalty work like this...let's say you've been targeting "green widgets" and "red widgets" for years...you have lots of backlinks with those exact anchor text....and you were in the top 10 for both phrases....then one day, you rank somewhere on page 3 or higher for those phrases.. you may still rank #3 for "cheap red widgets" or #7 for "widgets green" (reversed phrases)...but for the few exact phrases...it's page 3+ of the SERPS for you....nothing else changes, just those exact phrases.."
- Jim Boykin on SEOBook
Jim describes this as a "gut feeling" more than a scientificially valid observation. I've seen it so many times I believe it worth sharing with others: if nothing else we can at least gather feedback to prove or disprove the theory. Other over optimization penalties will likely be equally subtle. Like Panda, the rules will not be as defined as they once were, and we'll have to become smarter SEOs to decipher them.
Really interesting WBF Cyrus.
What are your thoughts on the over optimization penalty matt cutts announced? Do you think this will be rolled out like any other algo change and everyone who it catches will be hit, or do you think it will pick off websites randomly? Do you think this is already being rolled out?
No idea. :) But I"m nervous and excited for it at the same time.
Great WBF Cyrus. In SEO world we need to think the factors which effects badly for our site. Over optimizing is quite a valid point to discuss because many webmaster do their site promotion by building the links without concern anything.
Sometimes it happens that your competitors do unethical links to your site and you don't have control over it. It does go to over optimization as well. Can you drop your feedback on this? That would be great.
Hi Hiren,
Here is the detailed conversation on the same topic, what we can do when the competitors create cheap and spammy links to our website https://www.seomoz.org/blog/unnatural-link-warnings-blog-networks-advice#jtc174029 - You should go read it.
Hey, Good WFB!I think changing the title or meta description means you are testing the best message to your audience. So, I don't mean changing every week or so.. not overoptimizing, but, IMHO to came with a perfectly optimized and genuine message for your new visitors.
And not only creating content is the key to succed, IMHO there are other ways to make incredibly amazing features pages such as games in flash/html5/js, tour pages, tools, etc. Thanks! :)
It's funny when you look at it. You invest a lot of money to get high quality back links from relative sites with unique and good content. But you are still too greedy to add a natural variation of anchor texts...
For a long time I used to order articles to publish on my website. The problem was that even if the content was unique and handwritten, and even well paid for. It was boring and not really interesting for the readers. That generates a bad bounch-rate and no natural links for the content.
You can always go back in and try to make that content more engaging. If users aren't enjoying it, try investing some time/money into the content that is performing poorly. Try changing the formatting by adding more white space or even images.
"They'll just keep optimizing and optimizing and optimizing, and they get a little bump in their traffic or a little decrease and it fuels them like a slot machine, like they're winning or they're losing."
I think that's a great analogy. If you don't know how else to help your SEO, you just keep plugging away at things that are already done, even if they were fine to begin with. You have to take it to the next level and get away from onsite!
Nice post. I particularly liked the part about using your new pages to link to your old pages to show Google that the old pages are still relevant. Good advice!
my favorite resource on steering away from overoptimization and penalties. Great video!
Over Optimization good concept never thought about it....good that i read this post..i am still a newbie or beginner SEO, and i do see a problem with my site.. title tag, the URL they are the same for all the posts..i will have to redo the titles.. great informaiton..
thank you for 2 great ideas: links to old content and that 20% of text should be written to find new keywords and traffic sources:)
Great post Cyrus,
As you say I think that many new SEO's spend a lot of time on optimising the pages that they already have and less about the development of the site as a whole. It's well known that search engines feed off of new content and this is a great explenation video.
I have little bit some Quries is that which activities is good for SEO.
1.article submision.
2.press release.
3.classified ads
I would suggest try "Guest Blogging" : )
According to my experience quality content is best technique to improve google ranking so Article Submission and Press release both techniques are good for the purpose of getting ranking in SERP. Guest blogging is also effective way i think it might be helpful !!!!!
Really great White Board Friday Cyrus!
As a new SEO, your breaking point is where I'm at right now, so this post was perfect for me. Fresh content creation all the way! P.S. - Thanks for the photo of the Death Star room :)
Hi Cyrus,
I agree with you. Today, there are a lot of changes happened in SEO. Just like you’ve mentioned, keyword stuffing is not effective anymore. Also, black hat is already obsolete. Google is victorious in fighting this technique. Anyway, I will use content calendar in the future. Thanks for sharing!
Content is king - great whiteboard friday. So many of my cleints don't want to hear it - but you it is so true. What do you think it is a fair price to charge clients for a 300-500 word authentic article ?
Thanks Cyrus, awseome WBF!
I'm concerned about the large number of retailers and service providers out there with static web pages who don't update their sites regularly, nor have any real reason to. For example, plumbers, HVAC contractors, dentists, small retailers etc., often do not have a reason, the time or know-how to provide fresh content to their site other than to make search engines happy. Often these people are just too busy doing their jobs. What is your recommendation for them?
After watching the video, I have a lot of work to do. My site shows an 84% anchor text for a keyword phrase through Ahrefs. I have subscribed to learn what can be done to repair a very high ratio of a single keyword phrase. Thank you!
Thanks Cyrus for positive news! It looks that creating content of site will be best strategy for long time conversation in network :)
Good post, I like the explanation. :)
Thank you for the great tips!
Thank Cyrus Sheperd for given this useful information on Over optimization stop. write agin new post on Serach Engine optimization
I have a consumer service website that has a main page, a contact us page. etc... And I have a blog that I post to on a regular basis is just posting to that blog on a regular basis sufficient or should I also link it back to my main page or to the most relevant page on my site?
Posting regular content in your blog will certianly save you from getting dumped by google. Thanks for the wonderful tils cyrus :) You actually helped me in knowing the fact that i shouldnt spam my title tags and pictures.
Hi Cyrus,in this blog the points which you highlited (Stop over optimizing and creating new content) are really important.The idea about new content of a website and then get more link back from website's previous pages is innovative and I belive it really helps my site to get a good rank,and more over as a fresher in this field your blog has given me a proper conception about what I have to do and what i need to take care.
Keep writing,waiting for your next bolg.
Thank you.
I really appreciate the way you explained it. I do agree with you and have been trying to make the companies I work for understand the same thing. However, it's lil difficult to get them out of their comfort zone and think that there is a real need of freshness. It's only when they see a dip in their analytics they understands. I am surely posting this video on my facebook, twitter, youtube everywhere...So, that next I need to make anyone explain. I will just give them this link ... thanks mate..
Great video.. thanks for sharing your thoughts.
actually i am trying to implement the same in our onlinestore. inviting users to add more comments to the product pages. i guess this will create new content for the product pages and the importence to the pages also be there.
i strongly feel this is one of the biggest reason for amazon to be there on the top of google.
Hi Cyrus,
Great video, I was just wondering if there is another way to add new content to my website other than writing daily/weekly/monthly blog posts?
Or are blogs really the way forward?!
Thanks!
What I got here is that SEO techniques can now hurt instead of aid in search rankings. Is that right?
Does this mean that i should focus on just creating wll written content that I think people will want and not be so worried about keywords and descriptions.
Great video and I learnt a lot and am now creating a content calender.
Thanks for the effort.
Cyrus,
This is a very insightful post, showing information on the creation of new content is key to the success of any website, small or large.
hello,
We have always follow SEO guidlines. Thanks for shared a informative post about SEO services. It will always help for Every SEO person .
GreatWork!!!
This is very helpful post which shows that how we can save our site from google penalty but question is that how to know that our site has been over optimized??
Diversified Link Profiles Rule and have for some time. Nothing like the suggestion of a Google penalty to remind us that Quality SEO is becoming more than links and tags. Thanks for the reminder and the passion. :)
This is even more useful given recent Google algorithm updates Cyrus :P
Matt Cutts certainly wasn't lying when he stated that Google will crack down on over-optimised sites. Just as a side note, has anyone seen their SERPs bounce back yet after a Penguin infraction?
Hi Cyrus,
Great post buddy! You know when you talk about regular 'content creation' would that be just writing blog posts and posting them to your blog (located onsite). Or, are you suggesting that we add a new page to our site everytime we write a new article and post it onto the new page? Surely you would end up with 1000's of links on the nav bar on your site?
Maybe im getting rather confused here, ide appreciate the help.Michael
Great post. There is always a risk of doing over optimization and should be avoided and you have provided some good tips to acheive this.
After reading the post and the comments, I came to conclusion that submitting quality content with various anchors as well as with certain time limit can help and improve search engine rankings. But still I have a doubt that what other off-page activities the SEO can do for getting benefited in Google.
Good post, I think your point about anchor text optimisation is important. I would urge people to analyse their anchor text and correct over optimisation as this is very easy to spot.
Nice reminder to get off the on-page optimization and onto other things, i.e. producing great content.
I find using a keyword density tool to measure the kewyord usage of the top competitors is a good measure for whether or not you're over optimizing on-page elements. If I analyze the top 5 competitors and they are on average using a term 10 times on the page, averaging 900 words of text, and have the kw in the alt tag 2x on the page etc, then I know I can probably structure my on-page elements similarly and be ok since Google is already rewarding these sites with top positions for those terms.
Great post Cyrus. Recently I had the discussion with a client about a similar situation. In the proposal I made she asked me to add a list of a bunch of items that she wanted done in her website but she didn't mention create content. As soon as I explain this she was wondering how I'lll create content for her small business because it wasn't something that she could do. There are dozens of topics to write about it in any niche.
Great WBF, Cyrus. Wonder if you could illustrate an example of "over optimization"?
In the end it's still about interesting and timely content.
The first time I encounted an over-optimization penalty was 2 1/2 years ago. Our keyword was "blue widgets" and the client was optimizized fo "blue widgets" to the max (title tag, URL, H1, you name it)
Well, wasn't I happy when I scored an exact match link from a well respected blog - in the sidebar. All of a sudden, I had 6000+ exact match sidebar links - which we know don't carry as much value. All of a sudden, our rankings for "blue widgets" took a tumble, and didn't recover until we asked the webmaster to remove the link.
what about landing pagrs? Alot of people use keywords and turn them into landing pages and dump content there.
Thanks
Al
I think you are right that we need to focus on creating new content, and not waste time "over optomizing" our old content.
Creation is always so beautiful. It's the law of the universe. New fresh content for everyone makes people happy as well as the search engines. Really thought your traffic graph was revelationary because I definitely agree that you want to optimize pretty well, but not so specifically that you raise flags. Amazing piece.
Great Article. I had a landing page question also, what is the best technique to use on a keyword driven landing page. How much is too much.
Interesting, I might try varying the title tag and page URL on a blog I own and see if it makes a difference - Currently I generally keep these the same.
Me too, I'll have to do some A/B testing as I hadn't really thought about changing from the default setting.
I have one query related this topic. which is best to do in seo off page activity and is it good to do many submission in bookmarking, classified, directory or article and press release submission?
Great post Cyrus..
Very current and live topic u have choosen for WBF and i m glad with that.. as i really want to know how we can save our website from upcoming penlties of google.
I just wornder what if i make a calander for conent.. say for ex. i make an article today and i m targeting two keywords for that article... and go for submission in several articles directory with the same content and same keywords... whould it be consider as orver optimization or over promotion?
Thanks
@ NBSEO
Aa you have written that you create an article today and going to submit this to several article directories, but I need to tell you that you are just going to duplicate your content and this will be a bad SEO practice. Try to submit this a ezine or any other good article site and post about it on Twitter, Facbook and other social platforms to get full advantage for you fresh content....
I hope this will help
Thanks
Amardeep28
@Amardeep28 thank mate for ur kind reply.. i wondring that i m not a content writer though i try to make unique content beased on my knowladge and experience, so not able to make content every day or weeks and i want to reach out more and more articles directories.
as per ur suggestion, submitting in ezine and promote it in verious SM will help me to achieve result that i really want?
thankx
Unique content is a good source to get quality links. As you have written that you are not a content writer and you tried to make some good stuff based on your knowlegde, that's not always good to produce content on daily basis what matter is the quality of that content. If you write a piece of content after some research, experience & your knowledge that will definitely help you more to get good links rather than just producing low qaulity content. You can do guest posting, write quality content for your blog, participate into forums and Q & A, try to link with your trageted audiance through social platforms with really help you to achieve your goals.
Thanks
Content isn't restricted to writing, although search engines need text to crawl. Humans, on the other hand, prefer images and video. Consider YouTube is the #2 search engine and Pinterest is right behind.
Take this post for example: Video and transcription. Outsource the transcription part (but be sure to review it before posting). And make sure the lighting and audio are set up properly. And have compelling interesting content, no more than 3 minutes.
Hope that helps!
@Amardeep Submitting article to different websites on the same time period doesn't count on content duplicacy, beacuse that is something called Articel Syndication. This is very good practice to promote your content. Please refer https://www.ideamarketers.com/?Article_Syndication&articleid=193680 .
Hello Cyrus, thanks for quick WBF, I want to know few things.
As a SEO, i am creating content, linking to them, linking my landing pages with different KWs, i have varieity of keywords and not linking one keyword many time, weekly i create 10 links per keyword. All keywords of mine are on top like 2,3 or 4 positions so what do you think still google will hurt my website?
BTW your second part is all about content so i did the same.
Unfortunately, there are no rules about over optimization. Google still lets many techniques slide, while cracking down on others. The days of 6.8% keyword density are gone.
The point is to create content that is algorithm-proof. Shift 10% of your SEO effort into creating new value, and it has a way of magically paying 10x dividends.
As i said 70 and 30 so its mean i am on right way content creating is a part of onpage Thanks Cyrus for your reply. In the end Content is King :)
Hi Cyrus!
I see its already started, great post!
Sam
Over optimization has indeed emerged as a topic of the month since matt has hinted about the penalties. As an user I do also think that such stapes should be taken so that new fresh content can come forward and can enjoy what they deserve. Just because a site is getting tons of links with a specific anchor text will enjoy the privilege of being as a leader is not a good idea.
Regarding how to avoid over optimization, as a webmaster I think two factors are important.
1. Content freshness and regularity
2. Variation in linked anchor text
After a certain level of optimization, it is highly advisable to add different variation of your target keywords as if you are willing to create a brand repute. Also as Cyras stated about Rand’s post, a regularity in posting fresh content as if you like to add values to your website is highly noticeable.
So, Once again Content is the KING!!!!
(edit) *good content is king!
It's really shifting to content creation. Read a post about over SEO and how important content and the user experience are becoming https://next.inman.com/2012/04/google-evolves-are-you-ready/
I found this very interesting. But now I have questions!
Let's say I have a website about "blue widgets". I have been working hard on SEO and my title, h1 tags and url are all heavily optimized for "blue widgets". I've built semi-helpful links from directories, blog comments and guest posts all with the anchor text of either "blue widgets", "widgets that are blue", or "blue freakin' widgets".
How do I know if I have overdone it? How would I go about rectifying the situation? Removing directory links and blog comments would be extremely difficult. I could change my title, but that that is likely the most important factor in me ranking for "blue widgets". I could change my url and 301 the old to the new, I suppose. Changing my h1 tags would be easy.
Or, should I just leave what I've got and start creating content, move completely to "the light side" and hope that the good, helpful links start to drown out the unnatural ones?
Great questions, Marie. Once you've overdone it, it's often a hard situation to over-correct. This is where an ounce of prevention is worth a ton of cure.
I've had success altering title tags. So "Blue Widgets" becomes "Shop Blue Widgets" or use synonyms, so it becomes "Bluish Whatchamacallits - Search 1000's of Widgets that are Blue!" (that's the worst title tag ever written, but you get the idea)
You can also reach out to webmasters to have links removed or altered. Tough work, but it's possible. Certainly you can change your own on-page text and linking structures.
In the end, keep moving forward. It's sometimes better to move on to the next project than obsess over "fixing" content - which got us into trouble in the first place. :)
Thanks Cyrus!
Good WBF. Let's create more quality content!
Great whiteboard Friday Cyrus. Good point about adding new pages.
Cyrus, I love it when you do these Whiteboard Friday's on topics that are fairly simple and straight forward, yet you manage to communicate just how important the basics are. Brilliant execution as always!
Excellent post. Definitly worth a thumb up!
Great Whiteboard, Just the information I was looking for.
Thank You.
Content certainly is king!
A cry from the heart, from the little bloke fighting against a multi-billion dollar industry.
This Whiteboard Friday post is all great as far as it goes... but it's also incredibly frustrating. I've just spent a couple of days analysing my competition and these are my findings:
1) They (my competition) buy links in huge quantities
2) Their links are extremely low quality, sites I wouldn't want mine to be associated with (although I did in desperation join in with buying such links a while back, but to nothing like the same extent)
3) They particpate in link networks / farms, at a price, and associate their brands with poorly written, barely literate 'informative articles'
These are tactics I don't or can't emulate - it costs too much, takes too much time and it just feels crappy.
After Google supposedly cracked down on the practices I've listed above, my competition hasn't been penalised at all. Their thousands of crappy links really count for something - the more the merrier as far as Google is concerned. What happened to the principle of establishing authority on the same basis as academic bibliography referrals? As far as I know, scientists don't pay publishers to refer to their published papers!
So what's left? Optimisation. Now they're telling me not to 'over-optimise' either. I think this is all just a very smart campaign to raise the bars to entry so that only big corporations can make money in the ecommerce space. It would be more believable if Panda and the like had cleaned up search results, but they are shockingly bad. In many cases, they don't even work on the most basic of semantic levels - try searching for 'black blinds' and see how many irrelevant 'blackout blinds' results you get, making optimisation for a small outfit like mine more or less impossible - we not only have to optimise for the right term, we then have to optimiose for the wrong terms, and then are penalised for over-optimisation!!!
The only thing that's left to me is to review data architecture, and to be honest, after a recent site re-launch we did get things wrong. How? We geared the site to our customers so that they could look at a single page which showed them all the product options, which is really convenient. But now we realise Google and the other engines penalise this because it disallows us from using sufficiently specific keywords. So now our customers will have to jump from page to page to look at different colours of the same product, because it is impossible for us to compete at the generic product level in the search engines.
So now we are going through a painful, time consuming data architecture restructure, at the end of which we still probably won't rank well because a) we don't buy crappy links and b) we 'over-optimise'.
Our service is great. Customers can call us any time. We give free advice, an excellent delivery service, and we don't spam our customers or share their data. None of this is enough because what the search engines really want is to deliver paid-for results or links to their own pages. Their campaigns to rid the internet of poor quality sites is a dismal failure, and only those corporations with huge marketing budgets are the winners.
Check it out - if it's glaringly bad and I've just got this all wrong, let me know; Blinds, poles and tracks
Great WBF, Cyrus.
I hadn't considered over-optimisation from administrative links before. That's certainly got me thinking. Some of my clients' competitors thrive by this practice, but overdo it (e.g. they'll have 50 sites, each one linking to the other 49). So that's good.
It's good to see SEOmoz talking about keyword-stuffing from a links perspective, and not just from an on-site copy perspective. I personally believe that over-optimising link building from an anchor text POV is one of Google's main factors in determining whether a site is over-optimised or not, but compared to on-site factors which are visual, it's much more difficult to assess and keep on top of. Thank goodness for OSE's Anchor Text tab though eh!
One thing I've wondered is if Google looks at over-optimisation at a page or domain level. For small sites with fewer pages, it's easy to spread things out, but with Ecommerce sites that may want to push a number of category or product pages just a little bit, it might become nightmare-ish trying to get a balanced variety of anchor text at a page level. If Goog aren't looking at it at a page level then I reckon they will do in time, which might really throw a spanner in the works of those who have a varied anchor text profile domain-wide, but perhaps not with individual pages.
Very timely, thank you. I've been concerned what "over-optimization" might mean since it really does seem in the eye of the beholder. I think the thrust of what this WBF is saying (at least to people who are a little jumpy like me) is to just keep on producing unique content on a regular basis and quit worrying so much about nitty-gritty details.
Cyrus, the content theory is great BUT ...
Being sucesful running an SEO Blog doesn't mean that the same recipe would guarantee sucess in other verticals. I find that you guys are obsessed with what has worked for SEO Moz over the years and keep talking about creating great content over and over again.
I've had several clients that were blogging daily for months or even years and they didn't manage to increase their traffic at all, simply because their sites weren't authoritative enough to rank for anything.
Also, not everyone has thousands of dollars to put into video production and other types of content as Rand suggested recently at Linklove. If you ever had the chance to run a small business and not SEO related you could easily figure out that the content suggestions have a very slow ROI and site owners are more keen to go after quick wins.
Totally appreciate what you are saying. One of the hardest things about creating new content is creating links to that content, and that's where I see many small business owners struggle. So your point is well taken - building content alone is generally not enough to increase your search visibility. It must be done in concert with good link building. Doing these two things both right and at the same time is very, very hard. Wish there was an easier way (other than spam, which will eventually hurt you) but I don't know of one.
Good post. I would also like to see a video or post about "how to clean up over-optimized sites." This talks about what to look out for and what you SHOULD be working on. But what about the site's that are going to get penalized?
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Interesting read. We were being urged to change our URL to match the title of the page (currently the item number is being used) but after reading this, I am beginning to think it might be best to leave it alone and refocus our efforts. Thank you for giving me something else to bring to the table.
I've seen a number of my sites drop in the Uk already in the last few days - yes they are highly optimised in trerms of anchor text, no they are not keyword stuffed, and guess what, the sites that have replaced my sites on page 1 are a load of absolute rubbish. This is google shaking the tree yet again for it's own ends (PPC). Cyrus, nice WBF but I wish you'd tell it as it is ... I like Moz but sometimes it seems you're a bit cosey with Cutts et al.
Blocker, I appreciate your point of view - and I see where you are coming from. One of the reasons I advocate such a white hat approach is because I believe in being proud of what I publish (and I believe you do to) and long term success.
You're absolutely right that black hat methods sometimes work, and garbage material can make it to the top of the SERPs (not as much as it used to - thank goodness) but in all seriousness this can't be the advice I give to folks. Not only is it a risky, short-term solution that only works some of the time, but it also fails to add value to your business. We all want success, we just take different roads to get there.
Thank you Cyrus - I will be more carefull not to match to many things together but will use synonyms.
Thanks for the post. Will take the advice and hope I am not going to pass the tipping point.
great, i also have a plan to create more content on our industry, because we are running a machinery site, I may orgonize our engeers to povide stuff such as our experienced projects, case studies etc. for us to write then share it on our site, anyway, thank your for your highlighten post. regards: simba zhao
Great post Cyrus. But I have a question regarding it. In this whiteboard friday, as far as I understood, all the creation which you explained is related to on-page. The creation almost consists of adding fresh and unique content. But tell me how about the concept of link building in over-optimization. For example after creating how much backlinks for my website I think that now, I should stop link building otherwise my website will be over-optimized?
Great questions, and sorry that I don't have space here for a detailed answer that it deserves. Some of ways you can over-optimize link building is
Any one technique taken to the extreme can lead to over-optimization.
First of all Nice WBF Cyrus and nice to see you again