As inbound marketing is gaining traction, marketers in all inbound disciplines are realizing the importance of taking on keywords with a more holistic approach. It's time to start building your keywords into the bones of your site, rather than adding them once your site is already completely mapped out.
In today's Whiteboard Friday, Ruth Burr discusses how you can use your keywords to drive personas, and ultimately affect your site mapping process for the better. Leave your thoughts and questions in the comments below!
For your viewing pleasure, here's a still image of the whiteboard used in this week's video!
Update: Ruth referred to some code that Mike King of iAquire put together that may help your site if integrated into your analtyics. Give it a look!
Video Transcription
"Howdy, SEOmoz fans. My name's Ruth Burr. Welcome to another Whiteboard Friday. I'm the Lead SEO here at SEOmoz, and today I want to talk about using keywords to drive personas and ultimately your site mapping process.
One thing that we're really thinking a lot about as we move more and more toward an inbound marketing model, where there are multiple different people with multiple different functions all working together to have the best inbound marketing possible, is what we're doing with keywords and sort of when we're adding keywords into the site. I know that we've all had the experience in years past where we would get a site or get a piece of copy that was completely written and then just kind of have to plug our keywords into that existing content wherever they would fit. You might have an entire site that's already completely mapped out, it's got a sitemap, it's got information architecture, and then you're supposed to go in and put in your keywords. I've found that that is not always the best user experience for the keyword, and also isn't as effective as taking a more holistic approach.
So what I'm really hoping you guys will get out of this is take it back to your UX and your IA teams and really think about how you can build keywords more into the bones of the site.
One thing that Google is thinking a lot about that is really important for us to be thinking about as marketers as well is searcher intent. Search engines are spending tons of money and tons of time and tons of effort trying to figure out what people are searching for when they use a keyword. It behooves us as marketers to do the same thing because that way we can give people what they want when they tell us they want it, and that's the beauty of search engine marketing.
My example here is chocolate cookies, because I like to think about cookies. You might have somebody that's searching for the keyword "chocolate cookies," and maybe you own ChocolateCookies.com, a great domain. If that's the case, you don't really know what they want when they want chocolate cookies. They could be looking to buy chocolate cookies. They could want to learn how to make chocolate cookies. They could want recipes. You might also have ingredients. Maybe in addition to cookies you sell ingredients for cookies. Maybe you have recipe content and sales content, and you want to know how to serve up each of those pieces of content in a way that's really going to serve the user. What you can start doing is really thinking about the search intent of each one of these keywords and building that in to a traditional persona-based marketing model.
This is my example model. All of these examples are made up. The data is not real. You cannot use this data and take it out and just go build ChocolateCookies.com. You could, but results are not guaranteed. To reiterate, this data, made up.
In my ChocolateCookies.com example, we've got three different personas. We've mapped out who they are and what they want. Now we can actually assign keywords to them. Say you're trying to target people who want to make cookies. What they're looking for, they're looking for recipes, they're looking for ingredients. They are not looking to buy cookies. If somebody googles "chocolate cookie recipes" and they click through to your site and it's a page about how you can buy cookies from you, that is a bad user experience. Those people are not going to buy cookies, and they're also going to bounce right back to the search results.
That is the kind of thing that search engines are tracking. How quickly did somebody return to the search results page from your site? Did they do it without taking an action? If so, that can be a signal that you're not serving up quality content. It's bad from a ranking factor's perspective, and it's also bad because that person did not give you money and that's what we're trying to do, trying to sell cookie recipes.
So you really want to make sure that this person when they're searching for these keywords, which you've mapped back to their persona, you're serving up chocolate cookie recipes. And if they're looking for ingredients, you're serving up ingredients. Then you're creating an entire experience. You're not just paying lip service saying, "Oh, here's a recipe and then buy a bunch of stuff." You really are serving them up that high quality content that users love, that brings them back to the site again and again. If the recipe content is good enough, this baker might even share your content and share it with their friends, and maybe even link to it from their blog that's all about making cookies. Wouldn't that be nice?
Then you might also have somebody who does not want to make cookies because they don't have that kind of time. They want to buy cookies. They just want to buy them and then eat them. It's a model that I practiced for years. So they're going to be looking to buy cookies online. They're not going to care about recipes at all. They're not going to care about ingredients at all. They're going to be much more purchase-driven and be looking at keywords around their favorite brands and looking for sales. These are the people that you can really incentivize with calls to action and trust signals, like free shipping, delivery, sales, coupons, join our mailing list, and things like that. You've now mapped these back, so again you're creating this entire experience and all of this content based around the fact that this person does not care about recipes at all, they just want to buy.
Then our third persona is somebody who's buying at the corporate level. Maybe they're an office manager, or at SEOmoz, Team Happy is constantly buying us goodies and snacks, and we love that. But this person is in charge of the cookie supply at their office. What, does your office not have cookies? I'm so sorry. Get some cookies.
So this guy, he doesn't care about recipes at all. He's not going to make cookies every day for 100 people. He wants to buy them, and he's not spending his own money. He's spending the company's money. So he's looking for things like a corporate discount, a bulk discount, Maybe he's catering a party. He needs same-day delivery. These are the things that are really going to be important to this person. Since you know that, you can create content that is solely targeted toward this one person, this one buyer. Especially if you have things like a corporate discount, this is the place to really show it off.
So you've got these three different personas, and they're taking three very different paths through the site and they're consuming the site in different ways, whether it's buying a bunch of stuff, buying one thing, consuming your content and buying ingredients, coming back. Each of these personas is experiencing your content in very different ways. Rather than just creating one site and popping in keywords all willy-nilly so that all of these people are having the same experience, you can start crafting unique user experiences for each of these people based on their paths through the site.
Great, except that that takes a lot of time and money. Both in the fact that at most businesses time in some ways is money, and you may actually have to spend some money on it. One of the things that I actually really recommend doing during this part of the process is running some PPC campaigns around the keywords where you're trying to define user intent. If somebody's just searching on chocolate cookies, you might not know if they want to buy them, or if they want to make them or what they want to do. So use PPC, run a little test, and see whether people respond better if you've got recipes, or free shipping, or what the different calls to action are for those more generic terms. Over time you can start to see what the majority of users' intent is and what they really respond to and craft experiences for those more generic terms based around that. That's a really great way to use PPC as a little guinea pig test.
Now here comes my favorite part because it involves metrics. What you can do is go into your Google Analytics or whatever, use your analytics tools and start looking at these behaviors based on keywords. Once you've got your persona and you've got your keywords assigned to your persona, first of all make sure that all of these keywords really are the same persona. Make sure that users who enter on those keywords are taking similar paths through the site and executing similar actions. That's a great secondary indicator that all of these keywords do belong to this same persona.
Start looking at what they do. Maybe you get the most traffic from the baker, but you get the most revenue per order from the corporate guy. Maybe the shopper doesn't return as much, but she does convert at 2.4%. The baker spends the longest time on site, but maybe she doesn't buy as much. These are the things that you can start to look at and say, "Okay, so we know that the baker spends a lot of time on site, that's great. What can we do to encourage her to turn that into a purchase? How can we brand message to her in ways that make her feel more comfortable buying ingredients, or what can we do to incentivize her sharing this content which clearly she's consuming or loving?"
The same thing with the corporate guy. If he's got the highest revenue per order, obviously we want more of this guy. We want to figure out what does he want, what is he doing, and what are the triggers that we can use that get him to buy more or get him to return to the site more. You can start really testing, and that's great because it allows you, even just before you've done any of that amazing tweaking and testing, to say, "Okay where is the biggest mover of the needle among these two personas? What are the activities that we could be doing that could encourage them to do more of the activities they want to do fastest?" Then that'll help you prioritize and it'll help you target your efforts and your budget.
Then if you want to go above and beyond and really get in there and be a little bit creepy, what you can do is actually link up your site to Facebook Open Graph so that people are opting in to a Facebook app when they're registering on your site. They're connecting with Facebook. So there is that opt-in. You don't just want to take people's information. Once you've done that, you can actually, in your Google Analytics code, link it up to your Facebook Open Graph data, and you can start getting real demographic data on the actual people who are using these keywords and coming to your site. Now in addition to knowing that the baker is 40% of searches, you know that she's 35 to 40, you know she's female, and you know she's a mom. The corporate guy you know that he works at a company of more than 100 people most of the time. So you can really start targeting these people based on their demographic information.
What you also learn then is who these people are that like you so much. They're coming to your site over and over. They're buying things from you, which is really what we're trying to do here. And you can start targeting more of those people in your own SEO efforts, in your own customer acquisition efforts. You're targeting them on social. You're reaching out to them for links. You're buying ads to put in front of them, and you have more confidence that you'll have a return on those ads because you already know these are the kind of people who like you.
So you have all of this information about keywords and about personas. Now you can take that back to your user experience team, to your information architects and say, "Hey, let's redo the sitemap and have it be based on these personas, based on these proven user behaviors that start with a keyword and end with a purchase, and let's build experiences for those keywords." Now instead of just saying, "Well, here's what I think. We've got like About Us, Contact Us, Products." You can really say, "These are three main personas, so in the header we should probably have cookie recipes, shop cookies, corporate discount," and know that even from page one on the site whenever one of your target people comes to the site, it's really easy for them to find the experience they're looking for, make their way through the site, and then buy something.
Mike King of iAquire, who blogs at ipullrank.com, put together some code using Stack Overflow, which may or may not work on your site. Take it to your devs and see if they can make it work with your analytics. Every site is different. Your mileage may vary, but there is a link to it here at the bottom of the screen. There should be. It's invisible to me, but you can see it.
Now that you have this data, go to your UX people and show them the power of keyword-driven site mapping. Show them how SEO has so much to do with what they do, and not only will this project work for you, but in the future they'll be more likely to come back to you and say, "Hey, we're going to change the whole site, and we thought you should know before we do it." That's what you want.
That's it for Whiteboard Friday this week. Thanks for coming by you guys. See you next time."
Awesome WBF but now I want some chocolate cookies :/
Anyone else do a whois search for chocolatecookies.com?
Great WBF. But wait you forget to add a link, are you referring to this one https://ipullrank.com/code/keyword-demographics/
I hope this will help other Mozers
Agreed, idea "stolen" from
https://ipullrank.com/code/keyword-demographics/
Moz, I am disappoint.
It's all good, I'm glad Ruth is getting more mileage out of it. Personas are incredibly valuable.
The process has improved quite substantially since I debuted it in 2011 in my post at https://www.seomoz.org/blog/keyword-level-demographics
It's no more creepy that logging into Google Now. Retargeting is creepy because nobody is asking for you to follow with ads. In the case of Keyword-Level Demographics people would expect a better tailored experience from being logged in.
As far as the code, I didn't get it from StackOverflow, I wrote it myself. I used an example from StackOverflow for the FB.init part of the code because I'd originally written code that caused a race condition and it was incredibly important to me to cite the source of the original.
The code in the post is example code that needs to then be plugged into and augmented for whatever CMS or e-commerce platform your site is running to make sure that things happen in response to who has logged in. Follow the steps on the example code and it absolutely does what it's supposed to do, it just doesn't automatically turn your site into some dynamic targeting keyword arbitrage machine. Many companies have similar prebaked tools that are easier to use and leverage their own data sources. LivePerson's Keyword Lift is an example of such. I think Adobe has a tool as well.
Also at iAcquire we don't start from the keywords, we start from the personas. The goal is to understand the people even before they are searching and create as complete a portrait of them as possible. After we build the personas, then we do our keyword research we run surveys starting with qualifying questions to determine who the persona is. After that we ask questions about what needs they are looking to fulfill with a given keyword search or if they would search for it at all.
The PPC method is a good idea, but only if you're getting data about the user. Otherwise you're not getting anything more than what you'd get from Organic Search. KLD makes sense here, but since it's so difficult to get people to opt-in with Facebook you can also use micro-conversions to figure out who the user is. For example, give away an e-book, but make it so the users have to fill out a form with fields that say who the persona is.
Finally, it should be noted that personas are a guess and check thing. If you don't have some sort of measurement set up where those demographics and psychographics are captured you can't validate whether or not your personas were valid. Sure, you might see conversions go up, but that's not necessarily proof that your personas worked.
Hope that helps!
-Mike
Thanks for the follow-up and clarification, Mike. FWIW I don't consider learning something from you, trying it and loving it, and then sharing it with our community "stealing" - it's "learning and sharing"!
Thanks for pointing out that the link didn't get added to the post, everyone - we're adding it now.
Its not so much about the credit (which you failed to provide properly, even after adding the link). Youre right, it doesn't matter who inspired you/who you learned from.
But when watching WBF I expect new info, something original something worth watching, not something I already know.
What?- someone stole the cookie cutter cookies?
And, in closing, cookies.
Ha, great job, Ruth! And thanks for showing the interconnections between SEO and IA/UX. I think there's a lot of space here for both disciplines to grow -- and coming together on personas is a great for them each to share the expertise while driving business value. Awesome!
Hi Ruth,
First of all, great WBF! Really interesting points you make there and something that I am trying to do with my clients!
You talked about linking up with Facebook Open Graph which sounds very useful if you can get people to opt in. Have you got any posts that I can read to get more info on best practises?
Thanks :)
Hi Karl,
A good place to start is Facebook's Open graph developers page: https://developers.facebook.com/docs/opengraph/
Absolutely! I have been preaching this to some of my content writers for months. You have to please the crowds of people who are coming to your site and offer them the information they want to see. I have been really getting into analytics lately to find out who these people are and find things in common with them so I can help our website serve the right content to the right person at the right time.Thanks!
Great WBF! I love all the clear tips. I think it is very important to have your personas picked out. Plan it out in you situation analysis of who your target audience is. Great job! Thanks Ruth.
Fabulous insight Ruth. I loved the chocolate chip cookie example and not just because I love chocolate chip cookies. It really helped to visualize these different personas and what they're really after. It brings to mind the idea of targeting long tail keywords, and I think long tail keywords are an effective way to determine user intent and craft a user experience based on that intent.
I don't do a lot of tweeting Ruth, but you got a tweet for this one. Keep the great content coming!
Love the ideas for designing a site based on all the personas who will be visiting. So helpful. I'm becoming a big fan of Whiteboard Fridays as a newcomer to this industry. Thanks, Ruth!
Great post Ruth! Chock full of delicious, actionable recommendations.
To anyone who feels she "stole" the content from Mike King (aka ipullrank)...I would say—you ought to learn about more about marketing. Understanding customer segments as communities with a coherent identity (AKA persona mapping) has been a standard marketing tactic since the ‘90's.
As SEO integrates with more promotion verticals (as it should) there will be lots traditional marketing practices that will be “discovered” and tweaked to fit the need of organic search marketing.
Saying Ruth stole the idea from Mike, is akin to saying that Christopher Columbus “discovered” the Americas. How can you discover something if there were already people there?
It's really smart to have the whiteboard image, now I don't need to enlarge my screen to follow the speaker.
Ruth Burr hit it out of the ballpark! We expect to hear more from her soon!
Wow, Ruth. That was Awesome. What else have you published about Visitor Personas? I'm interested to know more about that.
Sorry I had to leave at 5:40 to go get cookies! Great wbf
I'm sold on your idea of building keywords more into the bones of the site and am planning to try it out with a website selling farming equipment and fertilizers. I talked to my designer pals about building keywords around personas – and would you believe it, one of them had a clear and detailed idea of the kind of visitors the website would attract! The design team made a detailed user groups and tasks list, got a little carried away and analyzed everything about the users, just for fun. And now I'm sitting atop free research that'll help me experiment with your ideas.
Hi Ruth! Awesome Whiteboard Friday! I totally love your ideas and love that chocolate chip cookie example. I hope to see more of your videos here in Whiteboard Friday. I will also be sharing this.
Kudos for the clear explanation and new ideas to explore. I have found it challenging to explain to clients why keywords should not be used for keyword stuffing and why organizing around user intent is the essence of SEO.
Since you clearly love data, please follow up with more posts that delve into that. One chunk at a time.
Thumbs up!
Informative post, thank you very much!
Great wbf I am an in house for a site that I wish would have seen this when creating the site initially. There are always thing that I can change after the fact but things like URL and site architecture are not! There are defiantly some thoughts about keywords during the planning process!
Great WBF Ruth. Persona-driven keyword research & optimization has been of growing importance for us at my agency - but I'm also finding that the concept resonates quite a bit more with other marketers than making recommendations for keyword-based content. Instead - we're now recommending persona based content. Much more powerful... AND - I want some cookies now.
Nice WBF Ruth. I have one question for you is that as a SEO, what if the Google PPC shows low search volume for persona traffic driven keywords and doesn't show your ad, then what alternate we can do? As mostly people search like chocolate cookies for sale, cheap chocolate cookies for sale etc.
Need your opinion.
Thanks,Shehryar
If your ad isn't showing, it's most likely a problem requiring some PPC optimization, which isn't really my forte. Longer-tail keywords like the ones you mention are often great targets for SEO campaigns. If you're not ranking for the long-tail keywords you're targeting, take a look at the page you want to rank for that term. Can you do more to make it unique, compelling and shareable? Take the time to improve the pages and then do some concentrated link building to them; over time you should see them start to rank.
Hi Ruth! Really interesting points you make there..Everyone can understand easily.Nice thought well done..
Chocolate Chip Cookies are much better than Chocolate Cookies, and you even drew Chocolate Chip Cookies on the whiteboard!
Regardless, I really like this model of dividing personas among the keywords and searcher intent.
Would love to see a tool that automatically sorts your keywords into separate buckets based on inferred keyword intent.
Great WBF, Ruth.. And thanks for showing the interconnections between SEO and UX..
Hi
Ruth
First I would like to say it’s a nice post and user friendly post. I watched your video that was a excellent presentation.
Nice post . you are sharing more invaluable things with us.
by far one of the better lately WB's, at least for the real world imo :D
congrats Ruth
This was so useful.... thanks for posting :)
I now want cookies.... damn it ;)
April :)
Awesome! More WBF's like this please.
Well presented and great example used. Oh and chocolatecookies.com domain is already registered :-)
Impressive post. Such a useful Information. Can I have some cookies? :S
#keepitup
Hi Ruth
Great post.One quick business question though. In the example above, shouldn't the decision to target a particular persona be taken in the beginning itself? And if no then isn't there a inherent assumption that i am actually chasing The keyword?
Well ideally it's a decision you're making simultaneously - you're deciding the personas you'd like to target, then backing that decision up with keyword and usage data. The technique I outline in the video is meant to help you find the best keywords for your personas, and create experiences for those keywords based on the personas you're trying to target. So it's not really a matter of which to do first - both should be happening at the same time.
At the end of the day, you're chasing the customer and the sale - but the keyword is how they find you. So it's important to remember the customer behind the keyword, which is how keyword-driven personas can help.
I'm quite surprised this post hasn't gotten over 100+ thumbs up. This is probably one of the most actionable whiteboard Friday's that I've seen. Granted personas should be one of the focal points into targeting, but you did a great job in laying out what analysts are looking for and how to turn that into results. I hope more practitioners start doing this more because this just doesn't need to be used for SEO purposes, but it's great for PPC and onsite marketing as well.
UX and SEO will be peanut butter and jelly soon enough in Google's eyes, this is a great way to show how both of them mesh for great results.
Awesome WBF Ruth
This is such perfect timing. I was just talking to my Search team about the next steps required to better understand what our visitors are doing & experiencing when find out site via search.
This video is a great way to get folks on track and thinking about the experience each user type/persona arriving at their site. Google has also been pushing this type of view of web visitors. Do a search for the ZMOT to better understand how find your Zero Moment of Truth and Personas go hand in hand.
Great WBF Ruth!
Some of the most fun I have had at work was coming up with Persona's. It's awesome when you start throwing birthday parties for "Shopper" or "Corporate." I highly recommend coming up with much cooler names though than "Shopper" and "Corporate." Something like Nina Nestle and Dave DesCount. It's funny how people start talking about these "fakes" around the office.
Love it Ruth, I've never thought about segmenting keyword strategies by personas in this way. Also loved the analysis on back-tracking in Google Analytics and tying it to Open Graph. Good stuff.
So many practical, easy-to-implement tips. We've built out the personas for our website redesign, but I didn't think to add the keywords into this part of the process yet. I'll definitely be going back and adding them before we build out the sitemap. Thanks for the help, Ruth!
by building out the personas this would also make it easier to establish a strategy on building relationships and building referral sites. As chocolatechipcookie.com if you post a unique recipe and hopefully a baker with a nice blog finds (or you pull them in) and they share it. Great WBF!
Hi Ruth,
Thank you so much to share wonderful tactics over keyword driven mapping structure and behavior of the user. How keywords playing vital role at the search Industry, you explained it nicely.
I am looking forward to your next WBF.Thanks again,
Hi Ruth, It's so hard to discuss, in simple and clear terms.Thank you so much to share wonderful tactics over keyword driven mapping structure and behavior of the user.
This is awesome. I'm finally venturing into building my own sites, and needed this reminder. Added to my plan. Many thanks.
Hi Ruth, nice WBF, I been thinking a lot about this topic, and your ideas will surely work for targeting the type of clients I'm after, that Facebook trick is cool, but I think this strategy is not easy to apply for all niches. For example I´m on the travel reservations industry in Mexico, if someone looks for hotels in cancun (hoteles en cacun), I don´t think they're trying to aquire a whole hotel in Cancun, well maybe some (nahh), the thing is that vacation industry is too wide to track, I mean, almost everyone takes vacations no matter their age, work or activity; I'm sure there is pattern but ppc is not an option, because of the high bids of big industries. I understand perfectly that when we are building a site, we must find different ways to pull traffic, still, in highly competitive niches like the travel industry, sometimes is better to try to pull some low traffic keywords, while you work some longtails like all inclusive hotels in cancun, because otherwise you can spend months or even years to rank in the top 3 position of Google. Any recomendation for the travel industry besides of Social Media?
Another good way of mining persona data is by doing a data append on your email list through RapLeaf, and then matching that demo data up against the keyword source data that should be flowing into your CRM from your PPC ads. Can give you good insights into what type of users search specific queries.
Ruth – Nice job on your Whiteboard Friday! Good stuff to implement. At our eye care office, we tend to just think about our target demographic (Women, age 25-55). But we really need to target the different “personas”, as you say. We may have a potential customer looking for a specific brand of sunglasses, whereas another patient is just looking to get their pink eye treated, and yet another maybe just wants to learn about what causes blurry vision.
So we need to work on targeting keywords and creating UX for each one of these personas. Thanks for making us think about this!
By the way, the still image of the whiteboard is a great idea, and really works well!
Great approach & WBF. One of the most clear explanations on how to incorporate keyword driven personas.
Definitely something I need to show my wife as this is something she hasnt done for her baking site :D Thanks for laying it out so clearly Ruth!
Cookies FTW!
My first WBF.. leant a lot.. thank you :) cant wait for the next one.
Hi Ruth,I love the basic concept and your interesting conclusions.From your experience, do you believe that can be helpful for every niche out there?
Hi Ruth,
Interesting WBF!! I really want to thank you for bringing this in our notice. You opened-up our minds to think once again, how we are engaging our potential users and did they really get best user experience? Today we are more focus toward discovering new keywords and cannibalizing them without being concern will it be worth using so many keywords? Will these keywords bring potential users? I think it's the time to think of user experience rather than driving more and more traffic and getting nothing out of it.
Great WBF Ruth.
Ruth - so thorough - and I love cookies!
I love how "white-hat" you MOZZERS have always been.
Huge success!
your pal,
Chenzo
Hi Ruth,You Really made Clear my doubts ..great Stuff