Caveat: I am definitely not a professional interface designer; this task I leave largely to the experts on our UX & Design team. My goal behind this post is to increase usage of Places for Business, however, and raise the visibility of that destination among the small-business-focused marketing community.
Setting aside the difficulty that Google had integrating Zagat into its product mix, its own branding difficulties in the Local space have been well-chronicled. Following the zigzag from Local to Maps to Places to Places-with-Hotspot, back to just Places, then to Plus-Local, and (finally?) plain ol' Plus has been like observing a misguided exercise in corporate alligator escapism.
Although the result of this hodgepodge of brands appears largely the same to consumers, who probably weren't all that keyed into the evolution anyway, Google's ill-defined brand in Local has almost certainly been a contributing factor to its deficit in business owner engagement relative to Facebook.
It's just not clear to the average brick-and-mortar business owner, let alone the average SEO, where she should go to get started at Google. While Google's "first responders" in the support forums have been darned consistent in their mantra of using Places for Business to manage this presence, this destination gets very little love in Google's mainstream advertising — or even AdWords. It's impossible to get to from Google's primary business-oriented pages, and a number of searches (including "Google Plus Local Page") return this answer.
Which is a shame, because the Plus management interface offers a vastly inferior experience for business owners. Although I recommended it last year, here's why I no longer encourage business owners (or SEOs) to use it, and why I've come around to places.google.com.
The deficiencies of the Google+ page management interface
1. No UI hierarchy
This interface is a jumble of Pinterest-like modules, with none more or less important than the others. If I were to answer my own question ("What am I supposed to look at?"), my natural inclination would seem to be the big green box in the middle — "Start a video call with your followers." Hardly something the average business owner is going to have time for or get any value out of.
Meanwhile, attributes that are core to a business's success (categories, hours, location information) are hidden behind a white-on-white button, and my natural primary activity (posting as my business rather than as myself) is easy to miss when juxtaposed alongside the "green monster." It's no wonder that even LinkedIn beats Google+ for social sharing.
2. Mis-targeting the average SMB
The eager-beaver SMBs who explore the navigation beyond the first page are likely to find themselves pretty lost. They're asked to install plugins, buttons, and even connect to the Google APIs console (while being consoled that it's only a 3-step process). Something like 50% of this audience doesn't even have a website, and 90% doesn't even have a mobile website, for goodness sake.
3. Slightly misleading insights
The Places dashboard hasn't exactly been a paragon of useful information, but my main complaint with this tab is presentation, rather than data. There's actually quite a bit of useful information here, but unfortunately it's hidden in the default view. "Actions" and "Views" are presented flatly, where a view of a post is treated with the same importance as a click for driving directions or into a business's website. So a business is likely to miss out on what are actually some pretty important metrics, or at least see some inflated numbers.
4. No help
The only way to get help with this far-from-simple product is to click first into settings, and then into "Learn More" on the section that you're interested in.
The strengths of the Places management interface
1. Extremely clear messaging
Strong calls to action pop right off the page here: the green-backgrounded "Complete your business information," the blue-backgrounded "Edit information," and even the boringness of the grayed-out "Add photo" area all point directly to what Google and the SMB are both trying to accomplish with this product.
2. Perfect targeting of the average SMB
It's evident that the designers of the Places Dashboard have spent plenty of time watching business owners using their product. Clicking the question mark just once brings up tooltips alongside all the major sections of the tool. Not only does this decrease the number of questions Google is likely to receive from business owners, but it answers those questions in a clear, friendly tone that gives less-sophisticated owners a great first impression of Google's products.
3. Clear(er) insights
This simplistic interface is very transparent about the data it's showing (number of times this listing appeared in a local search result), and presents a much more representative view of a business's presence at Google (my page only has 3 actions) without overcomplicating the situation for the business owner.
4. Terrific tooltips and inline help text
Here's where the experience of the Places team really shines through: They don't take any pre-existing knowledge of how business listings work for granted, walking the business owner through every step of the page-creation process.
5. Phone support (!)
And of course, if a business owner isn't able to figure things out on their own, there are plenty of relevant links directly to the most-commonly asked questions, and the process highlights Google's revolutionary option of phone support.
Conclusion
Given how much effort has been put into the Local Business Center / Places for Business Dashboard over the last several years — and the extremely polished result those efforts have yielded — I'm surprised Google continues to throw any energy into promoting the Plus management option to small businesses, let alone developing and maintaining it.
Any business owner who visits Plus should be sent right over to the Places for Business Dashboard. It seems to be much more empathetic to the typical business owner's level of sophistication, and solves their most important needs more directly than Plus.
The local/places/Google+ thing is a bit of a mess really.
Trying to consolidate any existing listing into one main listing, then trying to link Google+ pages and places properties together is a lot more cumbersome a task than it should be.
I guess Google just likes sending out postcards.
Oh I know this pain all too well! I can sort of understand the logic behind it, but there has got to be a better way.
Hello David,
Honestly, You have given very good information on Google local page management. And, I am really happy to read external blog posts which you have added in blog post.
But, I always confuse with my Google plus local page and Google plus business page. I want to give very clear idea on it. I hope, other readers may have similar issue with Google local page and Google plus page.
I have claim my business on Google places and I found following page during Google local search.
https://plus.google.com/108235988734456316513/about
And, I have created one Google plus business page as follow.
https://plus.google.com/100698745523318366692/posts
I want to sync my Google plus business page with Google local listing. So, Google local search users will land on my business page rather than first one.
Honestly, I am confuse... Can you please give me few idea on it? How can we sync both pages?
I logged into my Google Places account (old UI) and stumbled across something that may speed up the process of moving into the new dashboard (I say may but we all know how Google works). I completed the steps below yesterday morning, but have not received an email or an upgrade just yet... keeping my fingers crossed!
1) Login to your places dashboard
2) Select "Learn more about the changes"
3) Select "What's happening to Google Places for Business?"
4) Scroll to bottom and select "Yes, I'd like to upgrade early"
5) You'll get the following message. "Thanks for contacting us. We'll follow up with you only if we need more information or have additional information to share."
I know really uses Google+ as a social media platform. Why is Google not just focusing on Local? They do it very well.
Facebook has social. Twitter has realtime. Why can't Google embrace Local?
Unfortunately, my Places Pages (UK based) are still being managed using the old UI.
There however is a mention at the top of the page that says
"Coming soon: An easier to use Google Places for Business
We're making Google Places for Business easier to use. You don't have to do anything to get the new Google Places for Business, it'll be automatically updated when available."
Patience is a virtue... I guess.
GregoryTK,
Google just released it to Canada in recent weeks; I'd guess that the UK won't be too far behind.
I could not just agree any more to what jimmyn has mentioned.
When it comes to managing a Business with over 35+ Branches locally (which mean 35 different Local listings), and then having a separate Google+ Page for the business in General, it really is a mess. Google should find a way to bring it all together.
Let's just all agree to not use Google... But seriously, folks, I have been trying to merge + profiles with local profiles for multiple clients and it has been a real headache - to say the least.
On top of all that, no one I know really uses Google+ as a social media platform. Why is Google not just focusing on Local? They do it very well.
Yelp has reviews, Facebook has social. Twitter has realtime. Why can't Google embrace Local?
So just to be clear - right now it's best if we have a local Google+ page, and a business Google+ page, and then they'll hopefully merge into one? We did have both, but then we got rid of the business page when we got our local one verified and set up. So now we just have the local one - should we just keep that? It's all very confusing!
Google + pages still has the long range of numbers or businesses....vanity URL is pending from a long time
I dont really like Google+ ;x
What an excellent post!
I set up a places page for a client a while back.
I came across information suggesting I should create at Google+local page, and merge it with the places page. I set up the Google+local page and merged. I've been waiting for the pin in the mail.
My client received the pin. When I enter the pin, it says invalid. I attempted calling through the learn more link, and sat on hold for over 30 minutes (is anyone working in Google's local department?)
I sent an email explaining my issue. They responded saying we have duplicate listings, but all we did was merge the accounts? Any idea?
Google could scale their local strategic business unit by adding a paid offering. Put a few extra features like deep analytics and referring keyphrases, as well as some sort of local listing value.
I also noticed that some 7 pack listings have now decreased to 1? Any idea whats happening with the reduction in 7 pack listings?
Should I delete the Google+local page an just use the places page?
Also, on a different note, any idea why I am unable to claim a facebook business page? Do you require a certain amount of likes before being able to claim the listing?
Always a treat reading your local analysis
Chris
both is upgradeable - I don't really like the new Places interface - the older one wasnt better, but there have been functions to submit a pin whith only one klick, now I need two and than go back and search again - I cant find a sort by "pin is missing" what is possible in the older style - wich I still use :)
I have had similar problems with Google + where it trumped my Google Places account. I had a Google Places account that was pending forever, and I contacted Google to see what was going on. They said because I had an active Google + account and because I was showing up on Google Maps, I had a "non-issue." I agree with you David, Google Places is waaaayy better than Google Plus for business, and many business owners are often confused where to go to list their companies. I wrote a blog about it here: https://thedigitalelevator.com/blog/2013/04/25/google-places-listing-pending-indefinitely/. Thanks for the informative post, maybe Google will take notice!
I am still puzzled about what works superior, is it google local listing or google places that proves helpful in placing the business in map and gets the relevant traffic. Thanks for writing on this topic.
Thanks for the post, David. As a local SEO aficionado, many of my frustrations with Google+ and Places lie with the interfaces themselves. My hope is that soon enough all of my clients' Places dashboard will make the upgrade to the new interface - it really is worlds better than the previous!
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Thank you for sharing the post. Really a nice one. Insightful Post.
I strongly think that Google should streamline the procedure of merging Google Places listings with Google + profiles. Currently, it’s utterly annoying to merge the two. If your client list runs too long, it becomes inconvenient to keep track. I hope Google is listening!
David@
All these 3 things Google+, Google Place, Google+ Page (Local) were most confusing me since that time when Google launched it. Each and every time, when i used G+, i tried my best to get the difference between all these 3 account but always failed. Frankly first time i am relaxed after getting a G+ stuff, this is the first time when i am not feeling headache.. one of the best article on this topic.
Many many thanks for the writing an article on this topic....
Great tips about Google+ and Google place. Please tell me the great tips to reach on Google first page and get more traffic.
I am still confused about what works better, is it google local listing or google places that proves beneficial in placing the business in map and gets the relevant traffic.
This is very true.If we compare the two from UI viewpint then Google places is the better option always.
This is why the auto merge is so frustrating. Besides the cleaner interface and better insights that are more accurately tailored to SMBs, most business owners don't have the time, energy or desire to make use of the social features of Google Plus Local.
Has anyone else noticed their +Page and Places listings automatically being merged into one? We're seeing this more and more, and it's the +Page listing that wins out.
See 2 posts up. This is the new way going forward. Google is just starting to auto merge/upgrade, but eventually I think all will be upgraded. No need to fight with manual merges any more. Just wait.
Great post David and great points all!
Much of the confusion echoed in the comments above will resolve soon I think.
Mike and I announced last week, that Google started auto-upgrading listings that are in the new dashboard to Google+ pages. This new upgrade avoids the cumbersome merge process and associated bugs, no second verification is needed and no personal G+ profile is even needed.
What this means I think, is that eventually everyone will have the same page a Google+ page. There won't be all these different page names and states. No more merging with G+ problems.
It will just be automatic. Everyone will literally be on the same page. Then it's just a matter of whether or not you want to take advantage of the social features or not.
Hopefully we'll still have the new Places for Business dashboard for management, because like David said, it's better for business listings.
So when I log into my Google+ (is this a local page : https://plus.google.com/u/0/112267499874146085825 ?) and sign in to manage it, this leads me to the old dashboard. Is there something I need to do to upgrade it to the new dashboard or is that rolled out automatically? Confused....to say the least.
Foge,
Google is gradually rolling out the new Dashboard to users over time; I would expect you'll see the new one in the next couple of months. Mine came through in late June of this year.
Thanks so much David. We've been waiting for a while now and people talk about it so often we just figured we were doing something wrong or not hitting a hidden migrate to new dashboard button.
Thanks for answering this - I was just about to ask the same thing! :-) Here in the UK I've only seen the new interface when creating a new listing - I'm still seeing the old interface with old listings...
I agree with Jimmyn here,
It is a pain trying to merge them together under one account! Google needs to sort this out!
You're spot on with the UI David. It looks like Google decided they were pushing responsive design 1st as a usability priority, and forgot about actually usability and consumption of the data. Especially when you can compare the 2 screenshots against each other.
Any rumors on when/if we might get a +Dashboard update?
I still have the old design for the Google Places for my existing accounts, but I have the new interface for new clients. That is annoying!
So which interface should be used to manage the page...the Google+ dashboard or the Places Dashboard.? Seemes like a heard a while back that we should not be managing the information on our +Local pages from the Places Dashboard, but from the +Local Interface.
Also, how does it work if a business has their Places listing claimed under on account and the +Business Page claimed under a separate account...how would one merge the two?
As I know Google released thier new feature few months backs and that new dashboard was pretty good. Google+ have dashbaod for the business pages too but some how its very confusing to handle Google Places or Google+ Pages togather.Nice Post David
Thanks for writing on this topic. Indeed it is a hodgepodge of almost similar looking brands Google+, Google Place, Google+ Page (Local)...
Two Identification marks that come handy for me to spot the difference are -
1. Follow button - New G+ Page
2. Reviews & Follow button - Upgraded G+ Page
- KAS
I've definitely had a better time using Places to manage pages for clients. Honestly, though, sometimes I wonder if even that is beyond what most brick-and-mortar business owners want. I'd love to see a very simple, streamlined interface for SMBs to simply list their NAPs and be done with it. As much as I'm all for encouraging greater online engagement among all businesses—and, obviously, I'm really all for it—it kills me to see business owners with no interest in, say, tracking traffic to their Places page missing out on the citation and visibility all because the interface is intimidating.
Will be especially nice when they roll it out for bulk places management...if they decide to do so.
Google and User Friendly don't really go in the same sector of the internet.
In a spasm of unvolubleness, David:
I agree!!! :D
Such nice post. Please tell me the more tips to reach on Google maps first page and get more traffic.
Great one!!
Guys,
Many people don't like Google+, But it will help you to get rank for your website and it will generate backlinks for you if you have done excellent conversation with your friends or any kind of.
Even, I don't like Google+, But i used to of it.
read this - https://moz.com/blog/google-plus-correlations of Cyrus Shepard,
He has mentioned very good about Google+.
how can i reach on first page