Keri Morgret, Dana Lookadoo, Virginia Nussey and myself after a session
As with anything in life really, you can't please all of the people all of the time. This is true for search marketing conferences and for SES San Jose, it was no different. Whenever I attend a large conference or even small meet-ups, I'm in awe of the people who organize the event. It can't be easy to coordinate everyone from speakers to attendees, from booth setup to making sure everyone is fed (more on that below). You would have to know that as you're working your butt off to get everything done, that there will be people who love and others who hate certain aspects of the event. For me, that is the beauty of it, I mean how boring would it be if we all loved everything all the time? So please, follow along, as I bring you the good, the bad and the downright funny from the conference.
The Good
The types of speakers you have in any given session can either make or break it. The topic could be something as exciting as Black Hat vs. White Hat but if the speaker is as dull as dishwater then the entire session comes to a screeching halt (and people fall asleep in the first row). However on the flip side, when a speaker is so dynamic that he or she can keep a crowd of several hundred people interested in analytics right after lunch, then you have a winner in my book!If you've ever seen Avinash Kaushik from Google speak, then you'll know what I'm talking about. Right after lunch on the first day, Avinash spoke at the session "How to Turn Your Web Analytics into a Money Making Machine." This is one of those sessions where you know you'll probably learn some good information but only if you can keep yourself awake long enough. Not in this instance. Avinash started with great one liners like "Life is not a one night stand" and one of his slides was labeled: "Sexy: Search + Display." He knew exactly how to keep the audience interested and laughing the entire time. The biggest take-away by the audience seemed to be when he was asked what tool he used to find all his data, and he said he used Google Ad Planner. I'm pretty sure Google saw a spike in usage soon after!
I went to the "SEO Tools of the Trade: What's in your Toolbox?" session a little miffed that SEOmoz wasn't represented and was ready to ask the speakers about it. With six speakers plus the moderator there wasn't time to ask any questions (see "the bad") but I made sure I made myself known by sitting right up front with my SEOmoz T-Shirt on. :D Although not one of the speakers mentioned SEOmoz (boooooo) I actually walked away with a few additional tools in my toolbelt because of it. It was interesting because many of the speakers had tools of their own, and most pitched them. What I liked though was that Bruce Clay spoke about what to look for in a tool and what kinds of tools to look for. He didn't preach about how awesome his tools were, but gave excellent, useful information about finding the right tool (it would have been even better had had the chance to explain how we have a tool for every one of the points he made. ;-)
In the "Search: Where to Next?" session, I loved that Chris Boggs mentioned SEOmoz as one of his favorite blogs. Woot!
Although the speakers can make the sessions, there were a few other gems that made my "thumbs up" list. As usual, the exhibitors had great schwag. I loved that the first two rows in each section were reserved for the press. This allowed all the live bloggers and others to have a place to sit and type their hearts out. I've seen many people trying to live blog with their laptops in their lap. And speaking of live bloggers I have to give a shout out to my roommate Keri Morgret who I coined the name "best roommate ever" for bringing chocolate muffins, coffee and other yummies to the room.
I can't forget to mention the great networking and evening events that took place. For me, networking was one of the most valuable aspects of the conference. Searchbash that was put on by WebmasterRadio.fm and the IM Charity Party were great fun and I loved meeting new people and spending time with friends.
The Bad
Every conference has its issues, and let's be honest here, you can never please everyone. SES San Jose had a few "thumbs down" in my opinion. There were the poor people at the superpages.com booth who had to wear bright yellow capes (as torture of manning a booth for two days). Or the very nice lady at AOL who stood alone while most of the other booths were packed with people. I hate to even mention the food since really I've seen many blogs already talk about this... but sheesh! They served us the SAME FOOD for 3 days in a row. It was also strange that around 11am every day, the coffee seemed to disappear. Uhm, hello! We need coffee to keep us going through the full days (and some to get over that hangover).Then there are the speakers. Often times in a tech oriented industry you'll get a speaker who knows her business but come on, she really has no right speaking to large audiences. Other times you may find someone who knows his information so well he seems to get lost in the speech and forgets he is supposed to be talking to the audience and not just within his own head. Or what about the moderator who feels she has to ask each speaker a question after their presentation to ensure everyone knows she paid attention? This conference also seemed to have more speakers than most sessions could handle and several times there was no time for Q & A, which in my opinion is usually the most valuable aspect.
There were a few who seemed a bit nervous and others who read straight from the Powerpoint presentation (this is when the afternoon coffee would have come in handy). I can definitely understand being nervous; speaking in front of hundreds of people is quite nerve racking, even if you know the topic inside and out. But one thing I had a hard time with was hearing a speaker give outright bad (or at least, incomplete) information.
Now, I'm far from perfect, and I'm positive I've lead people down the wrong track before so I'll give Stoney deGeyter from Pole Position Marketing the benefit of the doubt that perhaps I misinterpreted him. However in the "Search on a Dime" session he told the audience that the meta description was not valuable, and that if they didn't have time to do it to just let the search engines find the content of the page and determine what to put there. EEK!
This was said to a group of small business owners who were looking for ways to rank well without spending a ton of money. They should have been told how the meta description is unimportant for ranking factors but that it is UBER important for the ever-important click-through! Small business owners should know that having unique meta descriptions is essential and making sure that they're created to entice users to click that link in the SERP and pull people into their site. The idea that leaving anything up to a search engine seems rather ridiculous. (It also didn't help matters that when asked how he suggested getting developers to make the necessary changes on the site his answer was "Tell them to make the change and if they say no, fire them." As a former full-time developer this really left a bad taste in my mouth.)
By the way, the entire session wasn't bad, in fact David Mihm's presentation was spot on. He gave us excellent information about local search without so much as pimping out his ridiculously awesome site GetListed.org. Even Matt Van Wagner showed us step by step how he put together a local search campaign, although I wasn't too sure how that related to search marketing on a budget, but it was still good information.
The Funny
There was one particular quote that seriously made me laugh out loud. It really tickled my funny bone when Pavan Li from Microsoft was trying to get something to work on her computer while she was taking questions and she said "We're used to making simple things complicated." The room lit up with laughter after that one!Tim Ash was giving away money during landing page reviews!
Later that same day, after Avinash had explained how rich old men search for Paris Hilton more often than other groups, Mike Grehan the moderator, took the mic to announce the next speaker and said "I'm just an average guy looking for pictures of Paris Hilton."
The highlight on the last day, was the "Extreme Makeover: Live Site Clinic." With Matt Cutts, Greg Boser, Elisabeth Osmeloski, Tiffany Lane and Vanessa Fox reviewing websites, it could have been pretty straightforward and down to business. However the session started with a review of mypleasure.com and ended with hookah-shisha.com. Let's just say there were many blushing faces throughout the entire session and at one point Vanessa said, "and I would listen to what Matt says because he started in porn" to which Matt responded (after a few seconds of the audience laughing), "What Vanessa means by that is the first thing I did at Google was that I worked in safe search..." Hah!
I'm sure there were many more funny moments but as a one woman show I couldn't be in all places at one time. With that, I'll end with my favorite quote which came from Chris Boggs on the first day, "SEO is alive, long live SEO!"
PS: Most images courtesy of Dana Lookadoo, Search Marketing Optimizer, Yo! Yo! SEO. (She took tons of great photos at the conference)
Jennita, it seems you were only half listening to what I said re meta descriptions, and obviously not looking at the slide itself. I believe I suggested that meta descriptions ARE important for keyword focused paged, but in some cases you can leave them out, specifically if the page is targeting more long-tail terms than primary phrases. The point of this is because writing a keyword focus description can actually be detrimental to getting clicks for some of the long-tail searches. Letting the search engines pull the snippet will make it more likely that the long tail keyword that is searched will appear in the search result.
Regarding firing developers. Sorry that left a bad taste in your mouth, but if the developers response to an SEO's recommendation is "that can't be done" then they absolutely need to be fired. I'm not a developer myself but I know that there is very little that cannot be done, especially when it comes to SEO. I've worked wtih dozens of developers over the years and the good ones are willing to look for ways to get done what can be done, instead of just saying "no."
Have to agree with Stoney on this - there are times to let the SE pull the snippet, and times to craft your own. It depends on the focus of the page.
Also agreeing on the developer issue - their (our) job is to find ways to implement the best solutions. Too many find ways to explain why it can't be done.
Agreed that there are times to not write meta descriptions, but I think it's more of an exception than a rule to leave it to Google.
ALso, re: the developers, I don't think firing people that block you on the job is a tenable solution. There are age old conflicts within the work world like Management vs. Labor, Salesman vs. Technician, SEO vs. Developer.
A better way to accomplish what's needed is to work at getting the other party to see what and why you are doing what you're doing.
And only if that doesn't work, you can call your cousin Guido :)
Thanks for setting me straight regarding your comments on the meta descriptions. :)
I was once a developer who didn't know much about SEO and when I was asked to rewrite thousands of URLs I thought they were crazy. I'm pretty sure I even pushed back at first. But in the end our SEO helped me to understand #1 the reason for doing it and #2 let me find the right solution. That one interaction has led me to where I'm at today.
So just up and firing someone, rather than helping them to understand or giving them the wings to research and figure it out for themselves is a lose-lose situation for everyone.
Jennita, that is perfectly reasonable. My comment was more for humorous effect than anything. I specifically mentioned programmers that seek out solutions rather than just saying "no." I've worked with many of both and the ones' that are the greatest benefit to the client are those that are willing to explore solutions. so...
Step 1: Discuss and convince. If that doesn't work then...
Step 2: Hire Guido. If that doesn't work then...
Step 3: Fire them!
:)
I agree. If your developer is lazy and just says no without any hard reasoning why, they do deserve to be fired. There almost never is a reason to say no; a good developer will give reasons why it will be difficult to do depending on your enviroment, but definitely not a simple "no".
There are too many horrible and lazy developers out there taking money from people who do not know better.
And I am a developer.
I see from your first photo that you followed the most important rule of any SEO conference: Round up a posse. Dana's a great conference buddy, and the grapevine tells me that Keri and Virginia are awesome, too.
Oh, I just want to reach out and hug you, Pete! YOU are the great conference buddy! I so wish you would have been there, but I have great picts of you from SEOmoz Pro!
It was tons of fun. However, with so much information flowing so fast, I actually took fewer pictures than intended! :-)
Argh, that bugs me too. I'm glad I'm not alone in this! Nice recap, Jen, and it was lovely seeing you again. :)
Thanks! Totally agree, I enjoyed hanging with you. I tried to find a good pic of us to post but I couldn't find one. :(
And yea... moderators like that seem to slow the momentum down. Some day if I ever moderate I'm going to do it auction style!
I have to disagree. The moderator has to switch the slides, reset the time, etc. Asking a question eliminates the dead space creates a much smoother transition. I'd rather have the moderator asking questions than answering them.
Meh, it always seems so calculated to me, like "Here's your bone I'm throwing at you." I've seen plenty of presentations where it only takes a brief moment to switch between slide decks, and it doesn't feel too long or like dead space to me.
of course then there is me moderating. I asked the question and forgot to switch the slides or start the time! :)
Well like I said, you can't please all of the people all of the time. There may have even been people who absolutely LOVED the soggy pizza and hot dogs for lunch everyday. haha
Those people are called 3rd graders.
LOL! The title "starving poor college student" would fit nicely too.
I actually started doing this a few shows ago in order to make the transition between speakers smoother, and to allow for the change of the presentation decks to occur on the laptop while the sponsor screen showed up on the projector. I agree with St0n3y that this tactic works well...it has nothing to do with pretending we paid attention. ;)Â
do you think ti would be better to allow one audience question instead of the moderator?
Thank you for the review, I asked for this summary in one of your other posts and you delivered. I think the one thing that has bothered me about SES is that some of the most important sessions turn into a platform to market a product or service. Â
I have enjoyed many great presentations where the information shared from the speaker left me wanting to not only research the presenters company but use their services. I consider myself an average to above average SEO and PPC marketer but if you start your presentation with "I am so great" and continue more than 30 seconds with that same point the session becomes a waste of my time and I think is a turnoff to those you're presenting to.
I won't name names but sometimes presenters need a reminder that to "sell" their products they don't need to actual talk about them; if they sell themselves as an industry expert people in our community are going to flock to them for advice, consultation and products.Â
Jen, thanks for sharing the picts!
Bummer that I didn't get Rebecca. I was so excited to see her that I forgot all about the camera and just wanted to start talking racing!!
Most of all, LOTS of people were talking about LinkScape - on the floor. I just figured I was missing the speakers' mentions. hmmm... SEOmoz was called out as a key SEO tool in the MarketMotive live initiation clinic!!
Thanks Dana, that's great to know! and thanks for letting me use some of your photos. :)
Thanks for sharing :)
Hey thanks for liking my quote! I was hoping to get the whole room to shout it with me, but I guess the first session after the first keynote was a little early for that.
Great conference recap and very much agree with many of your observations. Hope we geta chnace to formally meet next time, as I cannot remember us having done so this time. Say hi to Rand for me and thank him for inviting my boss to his CEOs of Search group. :)
My thought was actually that it was too cold in the room to get people riled up enough to shout it. :) At least that was the case for me. I did let out a "woo hoo!" when you said SEOmoz was one of your favorite blogs though. ;)
Oh! and I just realized I tried hard to get links to everyone I mentioned and somehow missed you. I'll fix that shortly.
I definitely look forward to meeting you, I can sometimes get shy and hide in the corner. :)
I did see someone in the audience (not you :P) reading the SEOmoz blog during a session. I called him a dweeb and gave him a wedgie after the session ended. ;)
haha poor guy! I had someone yell "SEOMOZ!!" at me at Searchbash, and another yelled "Jennita!" at me. I suppose that's one way to meet someone. :)
Hey Jen.
I think you did a GREAT job covering the event. Even though I was sitting in my armchair thousands of miles away, I really got a great picture of it.
Thanks!
Thanks for the summary of SES, Jennita
I love the funny party, especially Microsoft lady said "we're used to making simple things complicated" lol.
The most useful stuff I found in this post would probably be "Google Ad Planner", it is very handy.
Cheers
Funny, I was invited to a private "science of search" session at googleplex london about a month ago (where they try and sell you more services, and give you the occasional bit of valuable info) and they were really pushing the revised Ad Planner in that session as well.
cheers
MOG
Does anybody know if there are videos available anywhere of the SES SJ sessions?
I don't believe the videos will be available. However, you can see the last of the Local Search Summit Session with Q&A here at Aaron Irizarry's site.
you can see video of the MyPleasure.com site review that Jennita talked about above on Brent Payne's blog at:
https://brentdpayne.posterous.com/video-of-mattcutts-and-gregboser-site-clinic https://brentdpayne.posterous.com/2nd-video-of-mattcutts-and-gregboser-site-cli
 Jeff
Thanks for the up close and personal run down Jen. I almost feel like I was there, even though I was 14,823.2 kilometres away :-)
Great discussion hashing out the reasons why we would possibly not want a meta description; thank you.Â